Found Deceased TX - PFC Vanessa Guillen, 20, Fort Hood military base, items left behind, 22 Apr 2020 *arrests* #3

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jondaba said:
“The military police however were aware she had reported it to friends and family”.

You’re just making this up.
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You are suggesting that the MPs and CID didn't follow standard investigative procedures and interview friends and family.
CID agents receive similar training to FBI, minus 4 weeks, they knew what to do.
Army Criminal Investigations Special Agent (31D) | GoArmy.com


The Army was aware of the complaints VG made to family and friends but after investigating found no evidence of AR harassing VG.

MOO AR was experienced at harrasssing and didn't give VG sufficient hard evidence for a complaint, like slipping in and out if a shower room.
MOO VG was no doubt aware of this and that is why she hesitated to report.

Vanessa Guillen public memorial scheduled for Friday in Houston, says family attorney
 
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Boxer said:
You are suggesting that the MPs and CID didn't follow standard investigative procedures and interview friends and family.
CID agents receive similar training to FBI, minus 4 weeks, they knew what to do.
Army Criminal Investigations Special Agent (31D) | GoArmy.com


The Army was aware of the complaints VG made to family and friends but after investigating found no evidence of AR harassing VG.

MOO AR was experienced at harrasssing and didn't give VG sufficient hard evidence for a complaint, like slipping in and out if a shower room.
MOO VG was no doubt aware of this and that is why she hesitated to report.

Vanessa Guillen public memorial scheduled for Friday in Houston, says family attorney
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I am suggesting that your statement:

“The Army was aware of the complaints VG made to family and friends but after investigating found no evidence of AR harassing VG.”

is not supported by the record and conflicts with all statements if VGs family lawyer.
 
kaen said:
There is a leadership failure at this base. The area is clearly rife with issues but it is the leadership that should be held accountable for not looking at issues in the area and creating a plan to hold soldiers accountable and ensure the safety of the soldiers and victims of crimes committed by soldiers. Time for action and heads to roll.
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Agree. Leaders are floating along on rank and routine. Time for some leaders who give ****

20 PT type flyers at every army work and mustering place:
You will be held UCMJ accountable for off post behavior. You are expected to set the example.
 
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The military isn’t like most other jobs, so I imagine the culture is different than what civilians like me would expect in the workplace. I don’t have to build a bond of trust with colleagues that will see me confident enough to walk into terrifying situations or war environments. I don’t have to monitor my instincts that closely, learn to follow chain of command without question, or effectively be willing to die on the job. I don’t have to be that mentally tough. With all of that in mind I can imagine that bosses would permit group culture/bonding behaviours that would be peculiar in any other workplace environment.

But.... that’s not an excuse for letting anti-social ‘boys will be boys’ behaviour pass without comment or sanction. It’s the reason they NEED to be on top of this stuff and at Fort Hood they clearly are not. You just end up with toxic hierarchies, normalisation of toxic behaviours, misplaced entitlement. Those who complain step outside the group and threaten the power structures, they don’t play the game, and that’s enough to single them out and for those in the group see them as an enemy. A legitimate target. Add another layer -I.e. woman, homosexual, ethic minority, PoC, disability - and the oppression just doubles down. Let’s be honest, the military could put better grievance and disciplinary processes in place but they simply don’t want to. It’s hassle. It’s paperwork. It’s more people complaining. Sigh.

Sorry for the rant. I just get so annoyed that we even still have to discuss this stuff or why it happens in the year 2020.
 
jondaba said:
What is “the justice they deserve”?
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They deserve the heads of whover put the brakes on the investigation. Chain of Command or CID.
Not investigating the Tuff box lid found at the river burn site was obtuse and naive. You do not want that decision maker in a CID command position the army.
 
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Boxer said:
They deserve the heads of whover put the brakes on the investigation. Chain of Command or CID.
Not investigating the Tuff box lid found at the river burn site was obtuse and naive. You do not want that decision maker in a CID command position the army.
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Always appreciate your military insight @Boxer. Thank you.
 
Held in honor of Spc. Vanessa Guillen – a Fort Hood soldier whose murder is alleged to have stemmed from a sexual harassment incident involving a fellow solider – these rallies and protests have begun locally and continue to be planned throughout the Colorado Springs area.
Groups rally for justice in Vanessa Guillen case

Green Card Vets members Carlos Luna and Samuel Corona led chants of “open up the cover-up!” in the quiet streets, referencing the months Vanessa Guillen’s family spent awaiting answers, as well as the military’s dismissal of any link between sexual harassment and her subsequent murder.
The southeast side rides for justice

“I mean no matter where you are, there’s people from California, Florida, like from Germany. No matter where you are, we have to stand up for each other, and no matter who you are, Black, brown, white, we have to stick together for what’s right, and people always try to make it political. This is not political, this is a human’s life we’re talking about.“ said Lupe Guillén, Vanessa’s younger sister.
Vanessa Guillén’s family continues their fight for justice ahead of funeral services

Eyewitness News has learned Vanessa's family will be in attendance. People attending must wear a mask and practice social distancing.

Of holding the service, Houston ISD said it was honored to help facilitate the memorial:

The Houston Independent School District stands united with the family of U.S. Army Specialist Vanessa Guillen, a proud graduate of Chavez High School. At Chavez, she is remembered as an avid soccer player who was kind, hard-working, and passionate about making a positive difference in the world. Our thoughts and prayers continue to be with her loved ones, including family, friends, former classmates, and former teachers.
Vanessa Guillen to be remembered tomorrow at her high school in Houston

The two-day event will include a public memorial at the soldier's old high school and a private funeral for family and friends.

The public memorial for Vanessa Guillen will take place on Friday from noon to 8 p.m at Chavez High School, located at 8501 Howard Dr.

A casket containing Guillen's remains will be present.

Masks are required if you plan on attending this event and social distancing will be enforced.

Public parking will be located at 8653 Howard Dr.

Those who can't attend can view the public memorial live on this page or any one of our social media platforms.

Soulshine Industries in Edna, Texas will be donating a custom casket for Guillen.

The owner of the company said he created the casket after reaching out to Guillen’s family to learn more about her.

The casket will include the American flag to represent her patriotism and the Mexican flag for her heritage. A soccer ball symbolizes Guillen’s love of sports and the Virgin Mary represents her faith, owner Troy Ganem told KHOU 11.
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Public memorial for Vanessa Guillen in Houston | khou.com

Houston rapper and activist Trae Tha Truth met with Fort Hood Army Specialist Vanessa Guillen's family on Wednesday and surprised them with a gift ahead of her funeral.

The rapper met with Guillen's sisters at Taqueria del Sol in southeast Houston, which has become home to a notable Guillen mural.

He surprised the family with a check for $30,000.

He told Eyewitness News he's been raising money for the family by selling merchandise.

"Vanessa is a Houstonian," said the activist. "I'm at a point in my life where we have to protect our women. We have to protect us all, but we really have to protect our women. It's a disappointment when people cry out for help and we don't take it as serious."
Trae Tha Truth gives Vanessa Guillen's family touching gift
 
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