TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers, 45, killed in church/suspect in SWAT gear, 18 Apr 2016 #37

[Jethro4WS]

Jethro, you've mentioned this theory a lot. Where is it coming from and do you have someone in mind, if you're free to say so? Is this from talk around town or people you know close to the parties in this case? It's an unusual theory -- maybe not totally out there, if someone's spouse is rigid enough to be offended to the point of murder that his wife is having too good a time acting single with her friend -- but it's not the first or even third theory I'd consider without some sort of inside knowledge. TIA.

It is someone specific. It is not from talk around town or anything like that since I am well over 1200 miles away. I can't escape that this is very personal and the killer knew quite a bit about Missy. It goes back to the SW dump that came out in early May. MPD released them early when they could have held them for a number of days and even then they could have gotten an extension. So that told me they released it for a reason. Were they trying to put pressure on a known suspect? Were they trying to flush a suspect to flee or a spouse or friend to turn one of them in? Was an arrest imminent? When nothing happened within a few days I examined the idea of what if the SW dump was meant to convey was a message to SP saying we know it isn't any of these people and we are on the hunt for someone else.

So from there if it was someone close figure out who the circle of friends and the common links - children of the same ages, for example, but there are other common links. Which friends are connected not only to Missy but to each other as well. Find these circles. Find which one is closest. Start there and shake the trees and see what falls out.

I still hold that belief that the killer is close, very close. I believe if MPD were really onto someone they would have singled them out as a POI straight up by not and not wavered on that person. It doesn't matter if the prosecutor would be able to or be confident of getting a conviction. The idea of they just need to tie up loose ends or something doesn't hold any water with me. The problem with this case is that they have no direct evidence that the person on the video was who killed Missy. I don't believe they have the murder weapon nor do I believe they have the projectile or any part of it fired from it, nor do they have the tactical gear or any idea where any of this stuff was purchased. Not to mention they actually have to get any suspect they do have to and from that church. Absent finding the physical evidence items I cited above it will be hard to go anywhere with this case.

On the other hand I do believe that MPD has evidence, unique evidence, that could shake things up and put pressure or focus to a very narrow range of people. They are sitting on certain details that are to no real advantage to them any more.

Unfortunately I believe the same as MT in what she said in July - that MPD has no one in focus. I believe she said in the July articles that she (and the family) were absolutely stunned in May when they realized that MPD had nothing while the family had been given the impression by MPD that they did. They were very frustrated with MPD and I strongly suspect they still are. MPD is obviously missing something. The investigators are either discounting a particular motive or they are discounting the significance of some piece of evidence. That is, looking at it from one or two perspectives when there may be more perspectives. I believe they are playing percentages and Occam's Razor and it is no wonder they are not hitting anything. And because of that I believe that they are not looking anywhere in the direction I have been looking.

Of course, I could be very wrong. It is for that reason that I am cautious of revealing too much.

 

[Oregonmama]

I'm going to just agree to disagree 're the affair issue. I think they were both unfaithful but BB is not dead so a lot of his personal life is not in the spotlight. They both made poor choices to stray and we are all here to get justice for missy. I think a lot of the extracurricular activity on both sides were privately known meaning not all acquaintances knew the extent of the marital problems. If I was in that situatuon , I probably would only tell my best friend. Missy had a thriving occupation as a fitness trainer and I can see why personal details would not be known by all in her daily life.

 

[Oregonmama]

RUMORS


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What time frame was the trip that was possibly mentioned on fb in oregon? I'm in Oregon, obviously , and know popular fishing areas

 

[ezrah]

What time frame was the trip that was possibly mentioned on fb in oregon? I'm in Oregon, obviously , and know popular fishing areas

First part of July 2016 IMOO


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[MzOpinion8d]

I'm going to just agree to disagree 're the affair issue. I think they were both unfaithful but BB is not dead so a lot of his personal life is not in the spotlight. They both made poor choices to stray and we are all here to get justice for missy. I think a lot of the extracurricular activity on both sides were privately known meaning not all acquaintances knew the extent of the marital problems. If I was in that situatuon , I probably would only tell my best friend. Missy had a thriving occupation as a fitness trainer and I can see why personal details would not be known by all in her daily life.

I throw this out there every now and then...I think it's possible this was done on behalf of BB, but without BB having any idea it was going to happen. I suspect someone felt that Missy had gone too far and didn't approve of her fitness career, the physical changes she had undergone, and to top it all off the extramarital relationships. I think someone felt that she was disrespecting BB and decided to take matters into their own hands.

I also think it's likely that after the fact, BB has figured out who did it. Whoever it was made certain it happened when BB was verifiably out of town; didn't do it at Missy's home which protected her daughters from being the ones to find her; DID do it where she was about to do a fitness class which this person disapproved of, and BB seems to think it matters to this person that he will forgive them if they come forward and confess rather than being caught. A stranger who is willing to murder someone in the way Missy was murdered wouldn't give a flip about BB's forgiveness.

There also seems to be an element of "judgement" about it with it being done at the church, but that's not as clear since the church was where she held the fitness class.

Obviously if my theory is correct, the person would be someone who cares for BB very deeply. But that doesn't mean it's reciprocated.

 

[RagingClue]

I throw this out there every now and then...I think it's possible this was done on behalf of BB, but without BB having any idea it was going to happen. I suspect someone felt that Missy had gone too far and didn't approve of her fitness career, the physical changes she had undergone, and to top it all off the extramarital relationships. I think someone felt that she was disrespecting BB and decided to take matters into their own hands.

I also think it's likely that after the fact, BB has figured out who did it. Whoever it was made certain it happened when BB was verifiably out of town; didn't do it at Missy's home which protected her daughters from being the ones to find her; DID do it where she was about to do a fitness class which this person disapproved of, and BB seems to think it matters to this person that he will forgive them if they come forward and confess rather than being caught. A stranger who is willing to murder someone in the way Missy was murdered wouldn't give a flip about BB's forgiveness.

There also seems to be an element of "judgement" about it with it being done at the church, but that's not as clear since the church was where she held the fitness class.

Obviously if my theory is correct, the person would be someone who cares for BB very deeply. But that doesn't mean it's reciprocated.

This dog will hunt! I agree Bb figured out or knows who.

 

[RagingClue]

BB 75% sure it's a women.
He saw extended video where SP holsters claw hammer like a pro.

I finally saw the time stamp for the sp in the church as 3:58...

link worth revisit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyKap9VmCWE&sns=em

 

[SteveS]

I think way too much has been read into the BB statement about forgiveness. I don't think it gives any sense that he knew the perp, not at all. Instead, if you go to church (as they did), you are told God expects you to "forgive," and I think his words were merely his attempt to try to express that concept of forgiveness, while still also expressing his sense that even with forgiveness the perp needs to do the right thing and fess up. It's a tough mix, and layered with the fact he was dealing with the shocking disaster of his wife's death, it's probably as good as could be expected of anyone to get those concepts said, in which he tries to pay deference to God, to justice, and to his wife all at the same time.

 

[Razz]

What time frame was the trip that was possibly mentioned on fb in oregon? I'm in Oregon, obviously , and know popular fishing areas

This was not a fishing trip. There was a photo of RB, his wife, BB and his 3 girls on a coast somewhere in Oregon. I cannot find the picture or quotes on their FB pages.

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[Jethro4WS]

I think way too much has been read into the BB statement about forgiveness. I don't think it gives any sense that he knew the perp, not at all. Instead, if you go to church (as they did), you are told God expects you to "forgive," and I think his words were merely his attempt to try to express that concept of forgiveness, while still also expressing his sense that even with forgiveness the perp needs to do the right thing and fess up. It's a tough mix, and layered with the fact he was dealing with the shocking disaster of his wife's death, it's probably as good as could be expected of anyone to get those concepts said, in which he tries to pay deference to God, to justice, and to his wife all at the same time.

I agree. I don't believe he knows who the perp is. If he did he would tell MPD otherwise he would be facing a pile of charges if that should be discovered by MPD. I would expect that if MPD were to know that BB does know who it is (or even is holding back key information) but isn't saying they would hang him out to dry publicly which would pile up immense pressure from family, especially his daughters.

 

[Razz]

I agree. I don't believe he knows who the perp is. If he did he would tell MPD otherwise he would be facing a pile of charges if that should be discovered by MPD. I would expect that if MPD were to know that BB does know who it is (or even is holding back key information) but isn't saying they would hang him out to dry publicly which would pile up immense pressure from family, especially his daughters.

BB has suggested a number of people. KC and CW and who knows who else on the SW. I'm sure MPD jumped on his forgiveness statement and (hopefully) grilled him about it. Certainly he would tell them what his thoughts were/are.
I mean, he's never had a problem doing that before. But as far as we know, no new SWs have been issued.

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[Thekt]

@Jethro4WS will you post a link(s) to where you posted the pics a car (Nissan) that you found when you were sleuthing many, many months ago? It was a nisssan someone close had at one point. The pics if I recall were the car by someone's house and their place of employment. I can't recall if they were from google earth or if you got them somewhere else. I have tried to search the threads but can't find them. I am not a regular poster just lurker so it may just be that I don't know how to,navigate this site well. In fact, I couldn't figure how to reply to a post so I am just posting here with your user name up top in hopes that you will see it. Many thanks!

 

[arkansasmimi]

I am NOT suggesting ANYONE including MB and or BB is or was having an affair with anyone!!

Ezrah, I believe you are wrong that WH sent BB an FB post on the weekend of her murder. Unless you can show that to be true, you are spreading rumors!

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WH,widow of BB friend Brad, did post on BB Facebook on his post about arriving and few more. Prior to WH husband death, Wh and Brad had a shared. Account. And were friends with MB but not after Brad death. You can go to MB fb and see this. I M not at home with my laptop, but have ss of those post.....but,BB made his Facebook private so we are now not able to see those prior posts...so now his Facebook is off limits (unless something has changed.. jmho)

 

[Razz]

WH,widow of BB friend Brad, did post on BB Facebook on his post about arriving and few more. Prior to WH husband death, Wh and Brad had a shared. Account. And were friends with MB but not after Brad death. You can go to MB fb and see this. I M not at home with my laptop, but have ss of those post.....but,BB made his Facebook private so we are now not able to see those prior posts...so now his Facebook is off limits (unless something has changed.. jmho)

Yes, WH did post on BB's FB during his trip to Oregon with the girls which occurred after MB's murder. That is what I have been saying. A member sent me a screenshot of that FB post when they were all in Oregon. I really don't see that as a big deal.

But if WH replied to his FB post while he was in Mississippi (which I do not think ever happened and I cannot find evidence of it) would be a big deal. (to me anyway). So if you have a screenshot of that, would you please PM me with it?

And anyone who vaguely recalls my theory, will understand why I feel this would be a big deal if it actually occurred. Thanks!



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[Jethro4WS]

@Jethro4WS will you post a link(s) to where you posted the pics a car (Nissan) that you found when you were sleuthing many, many months ago? It was a nisssan someone close had at one point. The pics if I recall were the car by someone's house and their place of employment. I can't recall if they were from google earth or if you got them somewhere else. I have tried to search the threads but can't find them. I am not a regular poster just lurker so it may just be that I don't know how to,navigate this site well. In fact, I couldn't figure how to reply to a post so I am just posting here with your user name up top in hopes that you will see it. Many thanks!

I hope I am doing this right. Thread #32, Page 46, post 681. This was the first post. There are likely other posts after that discusses the topic, possibly into the next thread after it.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...T-gear-18-Apr-2016-32&p=12692854#post12692854

 

[Thekt]

I hope I am doing this right. Thread #32, Page 46, post 681. This was the first post. There are likely other posts after that discusses the topic, possibly into the next thread after it.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...T-gear-18-Apr-2016-32&p=12692854#post12692854

That is exactly what I was looking for. What specifically can you see at any angle that is of significance? I don't see anything with all the blur... I am terrible at "where's Waldo" games so I am not surprised I can't see anything. Are your POI's still in the area? A
How many degrees of separation?Thanks much...I enjoy following your posts and theories.

 

[Jethro4WS]

That is exactly what I was looking for. What specifically can you see at any angle that is of significance? I don't see anything with all the blur... I am terrible at "where's Waldo" games so I am not surprised I can't see anything. Are your POI's still in the area? A
How many degrees of separation?Thanks much...I enjoy following your posts and theories.

The fact is I can't see anything, that's what was significant to me.

If you go through that whole post what I said stood out to me was the fact that it is blurred out in the first place. If you go throughout the area (Midlothian, Waxahachie, Red Oak, Ovilla, etc) 99.99% are not. For example with Midlothian, when I had been going through all the streets with Street View - I have been looking for the same Altima elsewhere - you can count them on one hand.

It just so happens that the who I landed on as a POI is one of the 00.01%. I had seen the blurred house early in my sleuthing but it held no significance to me at all until I had seen the Altima in StreetView at a specific location associated with the POI when going there just to examine how concealed the dumpster area is at that location. It may not mean anything. Then again it might. I didn't post about it at all until over 6 weeks after I tipped it.

As for degrees of separation, what I have said is that who I have settled on is very, very close (at least SP's spouse) to MB. Keep in mind, I could be very wrong.

 

[Razz]

The fact is I can't see anything, that's what was significant to me.

If you go through that whole post what I said stood out to me was the fact that it is blurred out in the first place. If you go throughout the area (Midlothian, Waxahachie, Red Oak, Ovilla, etc) 99.99% are not. For example with Midlothian, when I had been going through all the streets with Street View - I have been looking for the same Altima elsewhere - you can count them on one hand.

It just so happens that the who I landed on as a POI is one of the 00.01%. I had seen the blurred house early in my sleuthing but it held no significance to me at all until I had seen the Altima in StreetView at a specific location associated with the POI when going there just to examine how concealed the dumpster area is at that location. It may not mean anything. Then again it might. I didn't post about it at all until over 6 weeks after I tipped it.

As for degrees of separation, what I have said is that who I have settled on is very, very close (at least SP's spouse) to MB. Keep in mind, I could be very wrong.

I'm not saying your theory is incorrect but....if this was a close friend, certainly others would recognize that not all is right w/ this friend's hubby. How could this POI convince his wife that MB had to die much less having her help him? And if she didn't assist, she must suspect something is amiss about her husband.

If this person is so smart (And I realize smart people do dumb things) how can he justify that getting rid of MB is the answer? It seems to me he could end all problems with his wife following "bad people" by eliminating her, his wife. Unless, of course, MB rebuffed him and he wants revenge.

And how do we really know MB was such a "bad influence?". We only know that from the SW, what the police have said about her Linked In messaging and...that it was BB who gave direction to MPD about KC and CW regarding affairs. (While also admitting he too had committed transgressions.) So why her and not him?



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[SteveS]

While also admitting he too had committed transgressions.

I don't think this "he committed transgressions" is anything but speculation, other than in the generic sense that we all screw up and fall short of God's standard of perfection. And assuming you're talking about the apparent infidelity she had done (or was doing), are you sure he said he did something like that? I don't recall hearing or reading of him "admitting" some sort of similar actions, even though many here want to accuse him of that and assume it's true with no evidence.

 

[northXnorthwest1]

I don't think this "he committed transgressions" is anything but speculation, other than in the generic sense that we all screw up and fall short of God's standard of perfection. And assuming you're talking about the apparent infidelity she had done (or was doing), are you sure he said he did something like that? I don't recall hearing or reading of him "admitting" some sort of similar actions, even though many here want to accuse him of that and assume it's true with no evidence.

Not sure if maybe gender bias plays a role here? Where a woman might say that he probably cheated because most men cheat, and that might even be a part of their personal experience.

A man, on the other hand, may say that I don't cheat and neither do a lot of men, so don't paint BB with your wide brush, etc.



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