TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers, 45, killed in church/suspect in SWAT gear, 18 Apr 2016 #38

[zigster58]

I believe that your personal anecdote is something that really happened to you. I don't know how long ago, or how old the car was. But that kind of behavior in a vehicle may have been more prevalent in the past than it is now, perhaps? I am hard pressed to find much info on the Internet of people having these kinds of problems with late model vehicles. Nothing for Nissans 2010 or newer. When they do have issues with headlights and the rain, it often has to do with bulbs, connectors, and float tray in the battery. That's all I can find, though it wasn't an extensive search.

But here is something interesting. After reading your post, I decided to go back and view the video again with an open mind. I wanted to take note of the behavior of brake lights and headlights together. When the video begins, the car comes into view with its right turn signal activated and the brake lights are on as it slows to make the turn.

When the car reaches the driveway and starts to turn, at the EXACT MOMENT that the brake light goes out, the headlights go out, too. This is at the 0:05 mark. It's not like one closely follows the other; the two happen in perfect sync. Is it possible that the driver kills the lights at the exact moment he steps off the brake? Yes, but it sure is curious timing.

I'm not an electrical guru. I don't know what the effect is of puddles splashing up underneath. I don't understand the relationship between the headlights/tail-lights and the brake lights. Clearly there is not a point at which his brake lights stop working. Even with the headlights and tail-lights off, at the 0:35 mark you can see his brake lights come on.

I don't know what it all means. Something to think about. But again, and you didn't respond to these parts of my earlier posts, there are other problematic things to deal with here. The timing of two very unusual events occurring within two hours of each other in close proximity, without being related. And secondly, the fact that despite heavy publicity, the innocent person has not come forward. These things, to me, tip the scales toward the two being linked.

I agree with you .


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[wildebeest]

Very true!! It's definitely a possibility it could be a duo team of any kind. I just can't imagine I would murder anyone (a), but (b) if I did I'm sure it would be pretty difficult for me to TRUST anyone other than my spouse. But again I am open any all possibilities!!!

My thoughts, exactly. A husband and wife are much less likely to run their mouths to others about the crime they just committed.

IMHO

 

[SandyQLS]

I can't answer that question. But I can tell you that the numbers you say were there in mid-Aug are not the same as in Apr-May-June. And I have pictures to keep my memory accurate. So either you've made a mistake in relating what numbers are where, or things must have been changed.

Glad to see you, Steve S. Someone upthread asked about the camera placements and I thought you had a floorplan with those details. I have one by BatBrat, but it's not the one I am thinking of.

 

[LisaWL7TR]

So this is OFFICIALLY my first post on WS... I had to join bc I want to see this case solved...

In response to your reply I think we can pretty much assume this Nissan is related to the crime... due to: 1) the zoomed in/enhanced pic someone provided here of the person in the car that shows the person wearing a white balacava like the SP is wearing in the church and then the other the other zoomed in/enhanced pic someone provided here of the persons back in the car as they are leaned forward and turned and you can see some white lettering on the back of what they are wearing which I am confident says "POLICE". Decoy or not this is related to the crime. Police may have played it down but Ill put money on it this is related.

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[arkansasmimi]

I agree! PLUS if it was an innocent person why would the tag number be hard to see? It would be easy to see the tag and run it. It's related to the murder and the cops were sending a message to SP. Jmo

JMHO I think I would be scared to come forward if innocent (having followed trials I mean) some things can get twisted. BUT jmho something not right about the video/vehicle being there to begin with. SWFA said was not common for what happened. Then they said they had more ss but were grainy.

Granted this video is daytime, look how they most likely could see the actual tag number in this video.
JMHO they blurred the tags, and as I have seen said prior I think they probably have blurred some of the video. Someone even mentioned that can not see windshield wipers at any point. Visually clear items on the dash are completely gone in other views. JMHO

Tag example [video=youtube;ocvyRD1OhOc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocvyRD1OhOc[/video]

 

[SandyQLS]

This is what I see. Thoughts?

LOL That one... what you call neck looks like the white t-shirt V on SP, and the blonde hair is a blob reflection on the window.

 

[Oregonmama]

Glad to see you, Steve S. Someone upthread asked about the camera placements and I thought you had a floorplan with those details. I have one by BatBrat, but it's not the one I am thinking of.

I asked where the cameras are placed through out the church and how many there were.......

 

[SandyQLS]

In between the airport and the church is a lake that Google Earth has labeled "Diamond J Ranch Lake Number 2". I looked up the Diamond J Ranch. It is a hunting ranch "located 5.5 miles east of Brady, Texas." Their website http://diamond-j-ranch.com/ says: ...RSBM... Bold mine. The following is speculation only. FIrst, I know nothing about hunting, but common sense tells me that it begins very early in the morning, at least for doves and turkeys. Deer are shy and easily spooked of people. A class like Missy's, with music and yelling and lots of people jumping around, would have certainly alarmed any animals living behind the church, who might then change their habits in response to the new environment. Someone who sells hunting trips for a living might have issues with a neighbor making noise near his hunting grounds. Missy's 5:00 a.m. class of Gladiators at that church might directly impact a hunting guide's success, enough, so that both could not co-exist in the same place. I think he/she watched Missy and her class, sometimes from the SWFA parking lot. I think he'she/they used a hunting scope to learn exactly what was needed, and then used that knowledge to hunt her down and kill her. I think he/she/they did walk away into those woods, possibly back to the airport where the Altima would be waiting. Can we find out who such a person might be, and if they perhaps rented a Nissan Altima from his/her buddy at Hertz the night of Missy's murder?

Brady, Texas is in McCulloch County, due west of Killeen/Fort Hood, nowhere near Midlothian. However, there have been theories about SP flying out of the airport. It may have been too stormy to fly that night, but a private plane would be a good temporary hiding place for some soiled SP gear. SP flies out at his leisure later. LE wasn't searching private planes for anything. SP himself could have hid in a plane until the next day. Either leave Altima at or near airport or have accomplice pick up there. It is possible to hike NE of the church and get to the airport, not easy, but possible. We talked about that route a long time ago, but wouldn't the airport have security cameras, too?

 

[janesmith787]

Maybe I need to try and pull up Jethro's images on computer rather than iPad to see what y'all are referencing with the letters. Trying to keep an open mind, but like I've said before, I feel like if you go looking for something, you'll find it. Also to clarify about seat being back far, I should've said it's reclined back far..not the seat itself.

If the Altima was the SV package then it would've had a bigger screen with navigation system on it. I guess too the reason I cant see it being involved is anyone I've thought could be a possible suspect doesn't have an Altima registered to them specifically or their address...nor do those on SW if I remember correctly.

Also, just like the daytime videos show from gunshop-their cameras are ridiculously good. I think rain could impair quality, but I think MPD has the plates. If NIN and others can "see" certain things, then surely any of the agencies involved can see more than that on their systems. JMO


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[DexterMorgan]

Now is it me. Or does the fbi want us to believe that our photo zooming equipment is better than theirs?

Come on?

 

[hinman]

I don't post much but love reading all the theories and thoughts. If I recall correctly in one of the videos someone mentions that the SP acts like he/she is on something. Any thoughts on this? Could he have been drinking before hand? Sorry if already discussed.

 

[DexterMorgan]

Imo. If LE stated to Nancy Graces podcast people that they believe the perp has Le connections.

Then obviously they feel that the perp used those connections at some point. Whether it was to stay in the loop. Or whether it was to reroute patrols from that area or something. Jmo.

I truly think LE is walking on egg shells because they have possibly been used and duped by an affiliate or insider. But they are not ready to announce any negligence on their part. Jmo.

 

[Inthedetails]

Totally get that...I just keep trying to use logic and not emotion and why the heck someone would go to a Place they know has over the top security. But then again, I can't think like a murderer and obviously logic didn't play into this or MB would still be here.


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I think the perp(s) knew perfectly well there were cameras outside the gun store and cameras inside the church, but I share your question - Why did they show themselves on camera? I don't know, but they did....and managed to escape identification so they obviously knew what they were doing.

jmo

 

[SandyQLS]

On the contrary, this thread was shut down the same day that arkansasmimi linked the SWFA video - within hours. It stayed down for days before being re-opened.

And as Arkansasmimi tracked, only 25 early views, and now 19000+. Of course SWFA knows all the IP addresses, and who is most ilkely to be among the first 25 other than A-mimi, NG, Steve S, NIN, a few others... maybe SP, if SP is the nervous sort who tracks on news of this crime.

 

[DexterMorgan]

I think the perp(s) knew perfectly well there were cameras outside the gun store and cameras inside the church, but I share your question - Why did they show themselves on camera? I don't know, but they did....and managed to escape identification so they obviously knew what they were doing.

jmo

At first I thought they were casing the gun store but got nervous and left since other cars were passing by.

 

[Inthedetails]

At first I thought they were casing the gun store but got nervous and left since other cars were passing by.

But before leaving, she/he/they sat in the car for a few minutes, in plain sight.

Strange behavior in that parking lot.

jmo

 

[DexterMorgan]

But before leaving, she/he/they sat in the car for a few minutes, in plain sight.

Strange behavior in that parking lot.

jmo

Idk. In some areas you will have foolish people pulling over to get high or have a quicky sex session.

But they always seem nervous or in lurke mode if they are not sure that cops wont just pull up.

So its possible the car went in there because the driver was going to sniff drugs or something. So they fumble around for their stash or the right spot.

So its possible that they had a quick get high session while being paranoid in that lot.

Idk

 

[arkansasmimi]

And as Arkansasmimi tracked, only 25 early views, and now 19000+. Of course SWFA knows all the IP addresses, and who is most ilkely to be among the first 25 other than A-mimi, NG, Steve S, NIN, a few others... maybe SP, if SP is the nervous sort who tracks on news of this crime.

Something interesting I noticed, when I rewatched over and over from my laptop... the view number does not change. (ex if I watched 5 times view number did not change) I agree. I sure they have IP addresses, and also tag numbers of everyone who has visited the church and took pictures and video and also at SWFA for comparison. JMHO

 

[rodee34]

Spot 4 me

 

[janesmith787]

I've always thought the gear was 1 to throw MB off, but also to protect themselves both physically and in case there were cameras. I remember in the beginning hearing she fought back from several locals. I just can't get over the fact that this was a horrendous, gruesome and personal crime...if I hadn't known about the Altima, I would've still thought the same thing. They had to get out of there quick if they didn't want to be arrested. They planned this whole thing out so why ruin it by driving your car that will eventually be found out?! JMO


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