TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers, 45, killed in church/suspect in SWAT gear, 18 Apr 2016 #42

[Tippy Lynn]

I may not always be commenting, but I am closely following this case. If you have certain frames you like to talk about, I am more than happy to look at them.

I'll just say this, altering frames - not deleting them - would leave a trace IMO, since the target is moving. Any blurring for example would have to be done consistently in every single layer.

That blur or obscurity would have to be of a progression in itself considering size and opacity. We are talking about hundreds and thousands of layers. Lots of manpower needed.

Granted, the SWFA released the video almost 8 months later, but MPD would have confiscated it on day one or two. Given the experience of the SWFA security cam operator or employee or owner generally watching the surveillance tapes - any tapes-, I am sure, they would have noticed any discrepancies. It's like watching your favorite show and they replaced some of the actors with lookalikes..just saying.

All my opinion only. I am not a forensic photo - video - photoshop etc. specialist. Take it all with a large grain of salt.

RIP Missy Bevers - NOT forgotten!

-Nin

A few threads back I posted that I think the SWFA video appears to be edited and there's a strong possibility LE worked with SWFA to release it after they analyzed and edited the video. I know others are saying that it's very hard and time consuming to edit each video frame, layer, etc., but I disagree. It's fairly easy to blur a YouTube video, here's a link for anyone interested. https://youtu.be/phLNcwKIlTo. Although, I highly doubt this is the process that was used to edit the SWFA video, I don't doubt that LE has expert level resources and software available to edit the video in this capacity.

FWIW - My day to day grind for the last 20+ years is in IT specializing in Network/Telecom and photography is a hobby that pays me from time to time. I'm not an expert by any means, but I have a fair amount of experience with photo/video editing software.

My opinion only and just my perspective.

 

[thordis]

Where is the face? I cannot make it out. Thanks!
Sorry......[/QUOTE

It's almost a profile, rather than a full-face picture...looking to his right/our left.

 

[urtxtigress]

This is why I think he has a fake arm or an extention (costume accessory) arm and they won't be able to find fingerprints. Windows 10 Slate and lightened.

 

[ezrah]

This is why I think he has a fake arm or an extention (costume accessory) arm and they won't be able to find fingerprints. Windows 10 Slate and lightened.

IMO There is no "fake arm" or "fake head" and saying Windows Slate does not explain what edits/ photoshopping has been done to images. All JMHO!

 

[Cannonball3804]

I have to get back to the video from the gun shop, I thought it was odd, that the driver
a). put the right signal on, coming out of a vacant parking lot at 4:00 or whenever in the morning.
b) correct me if I am wrong, but you only turn right?

The church was left out of the lot, has anyone seen the video continued to see if that car made a U-turn to head to the church?



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To your point A, there are states in which police can and will ticket someone for failing to signal when leaving a parking lot. It is part of defensive driving technique, taking every opportunity to alert others to what you plan to do next.

As for no one being around at 4 in the morning, I don't see that it matters. You establish driving habits and follow them consistently whether anyone else is around or not. Most of us don't blow through stop signs or red lights at 4 in the morning just because no one else is around.


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[urtxtigress]

I have to get back to the video from the gun shop, I thought it was odd, that the driver
a). put the right signal on, coming out of a vacant parking lot at 4:00 or whenever in the morning.
b) correct me if I am wrong, but you only turn right?

The church was left out of the lot, has anyone seen the video continued to see if that car made a U-turn to head to the church?



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Pretty weird considering didn't use it pulling in I don't think.

 

[urtxtigress]

IMO There is no "fake arm" or "fake head" and saying Windows Slate does not explain what edits/ photoshopping has been done to images. All JMHO!

Windows 10 photo editing, under editing the color slate.

 

[ezrah]

To your point A, there are states in which police can and will ticket someone for failing to signal when leaving a parking lot. It is part of defensive driving technique, taking every opportunity to alert others to what you plan to do next.

As for no one being around at 4 in the morning, I don't see that it matters. You establish driving habits and follow them consistently whether anyone else is around or not. Most of us don't blow through stop signs or red lights at 4 in the morning just because no one else is around.


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Welcome back Cannonball. You've obviously not seen me driving out of parking lots at 4 a.m.

I'm thinking there is someone in the SUV parked on the side of SWFA. The Altima driver could have used the turn signal to alert the SUV driver to follow " this way". All JMO

 

[Kaley Smith]

The nonchalance of the person in the police gear is very surprising to me. I do not see signs of nervousness or hurrying. I also am amazed the person would make noise, such as breaking windows. This is no burglar! Am thinking this person, besides being a cold-blooded killer, is also taunting police. Seems when he/she looks at the camera at one point, he/she knows they may be on camera. Makes no attempt to smash it. Also makes me think he/she has backup. The confidence displayed makes me think this person has killed before, and/or is thinking what he/she is about to do is deserved/justified. It is not normal human behaviour, put it that way.

 

[KayCherry]

Where is the face? I cannot make it out. Thanks!
Sorry......

I see it, looks very female to me... just saying.

 

[Razz]

Welcome back Cannonball. You've obviously not seen me driving out of parking lots at 4 a.m.

I'm thinking there is someone in the SUV parked on the side of SWFA. The Altima driver could have used the turn signal to alert the SUV driver to follow " this way". All JMO

That is very interesting Ezrah.
Hadn't given that any thought but
now that you mention it it is sort of plausible. Perhaps the driver of the Altima parked in the parking lot until the driver of this "van" could get down to the vehicle and follow the Altima.

If you view the longer Brainscratch video in January 2017 uploaded by SWFA re the Bevers case, you'll see at the end the host's reasoning why it may have been shown. ( the guy behind the SWFA counter has an SP like walk and...the boxes to the right of the counter look similar to the
box SP is holding in the church video.)

But then, the Brainscratch host of the shorter version of Brainscratch, (that follows after theJanuary 2017 longer video )reads answers to questions he had submitted to SWFA and the subsequent answers he received from SWFA.

A far fetched theory that appears to be debunked but definitely worth a look.

Will find the links and post.

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[Razz]

That is very interesting Ezrah.
Hadn't given that any thought but
now that you mention it it is sort of plausible. Perhaps the driver of the Altima parked in the parking lot until the driver of this "van" could get down to the vehicle and follow the Altima.

If you view the longer Brainscratch video in January 2017 uploaded by SWFA re the Bevers case, you'll see at the end the host's reasoning why it may have been shown. ( the guy behind the SWFA counter has an SP like walk and...the boxes to the right of the counter look similar to the
box SP is holding in the church video.)

But then, the Brainscratch host of the shorter version of Brainscratch, (that follows after theJanuary 2017 longer video )reads answers to questions he had submitted to SWFA and the subsequent answers he received from SWFA.

A far fetched theory that appears to be debunked but definitely worth a look.

Will find the links and post.

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Had trouble linking the Brainscratch videos but go to You Tube, Brainscratch Missy Bevers Jan.2017
about 32 min. And then watch the 2nd Brainscratch titled "Answers from SWFA" about 4 min long.

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[lilyk]

I cannot make out anything that looks like a face. I can't even orient myself to where this picture is from based on the original. Would be helpful when posting "revealing" photos to do a side-by-side-by-side view.

1. The original from the video marked with where the picture is cropped from.

2. The revealing photo with all edits noted as per TOS.

3. The revealing photo again, with outlines of suspected features (in this case, the face).

It would be a big help! TYIA

Where is the face? I cannot make it out. Thanks!
Sorry......

I know some were not able to see the face in the screen capture I posted a few days ago taken at 1.48 as the killer is entering the alcove with the flashlight, so I lightened a little and hopefully you can see it a little better.

 

[ezrah]

This is in reply to Razz. Forgot to reply w quote. oops! I have seen the Brainscratch videos you referenced and recall the comments.

 

[ezrah]

I cannot make out anything that looks like a face. I can't even orient myself to where this picture is from based on the original. Would be helpful when posting "revealing" photos to do a side-by-side-by-side view.

1. The original from the video marked with where the picture is cropped from.

2. The revealing photo with all edits noted as per TOS.

3. The revealing photo again, with outlines of suspected features (in this case, the face).

It would be a big help! TYIA

Ms PC originally posted this in the previous thread before it closed and provided some extra info as seen in ss here.

 

[bye4now]

Can someone link me to the long video of the creekside church video? I want to know when the rectangle box appeared in the perp's hand. Did he/she walk in with it?


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[ezrah]

Can someone link me to the long video of the creekside church video? I want to know when the rectangle box appeared in the perp's hand. Did he/she walk in with it?


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All the media links are listed at the beginning of each thread in case there are other links you need. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ePS8TJ6UAqY

 

[lilyk]

Ms PC originally posted this in the previous thread before it closed and provided some extra info as seen in ss here.

I appreciate the assist Ezrah. But I'm still clueless as to what I'm looking at in the zoomed in photo (assuming it is a full face photo?) No response necessary I'll just probably move on. TY!

 

[Boudy]

Can someone that has good PC editing software get some still shots of SP's left hand when you see it with nothing but the floor behind it?

 

[ezrah]

I appreciate the assist Ezrah. But I'm still clueless as to what I'm looking at in the zoomed in photo (assuming it is a full face photo?) No response necessary I'll just probably move on. TY!

I'll help anyway...trying to wake-up Missy's thread so she's not forgotten. This is what I see in Ms PCs pic. I don't know why some can and some can't see it. I lightened it and just put a colored filter on it to help show detail. IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170305/08a2efb1c6af349310a9dcf253e062c9.jpg[/IMG]