TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers, 45, killed in church/suspect in SWAT gear, 18 Apr 2016 #42

[ezrah]

OMG I see it now! Freaky. Definitely looks feminine.

Height given by LE of 5'2" - 5'7" would also fit with a female perp IMO. My gut says the perp(s) may not be someone on original target list. MOO

 

[Deleted member 102539]

Btw:
My Sunday afternoon was as follows: I tried to take a screen shot/shots of the surveillance video for the first time. Yes, there was a little success: one of X shots I indeed recovered, haha. Then I tried to manipulate the pic (SP at the door s/he wasn't able to open). Unfortunately I'm so much untalented that I stumbled with separating the pic cutout from the website. - Finally I have to learn it but not today (I think). It's enough for me now. :tantrum:

 

[arkansasmimi]

It will be interesting to see if the reward for info. on Missy's case will be raised again if there is no break soon. My theory at this point is multiple perps. How much money would it take for someone to roll on the others? The reward for the Delphi murders is well over 200, 000 now!

Agee on if i will be raised. MPD is conferred with on this. One thing is certain, Dairy amount expired after 6 months. So only have SWFA and the 2 private donor's amounts making reward $30K.

 

[arkansasmimi]

Think we can raise that much?

No. One it has moved from news cycle. And 2 family in this case doesn't even speak of it or seeking murderer. Jmho

 

[KaaBoom]

I assume that there are at least two perps. One (??) is shown to us on surveillance video. One could have been somewhere where the surveillance cameras didn't get her/him. Which of them (at least 2?) might be the killer I don't know: perp with tools smashing door glass or invisible perp.

I don't believe any evidence of a second killer has ever been presented.

 

[ezrah]

this killer did go to extreme lengths to conceal her identity - from what I can tell from staring at all the screen captures from the MPD surveillance video - she not only had a balaclava, but also a face guard, and it appears to me that she even has a couple of face masks and at one point they are dangling from her neck (and I had previously studied these masks at length and I posted that one looked like a baby's face and it was driving me crazy.) But anyway at certain segments she pulls the balaclava down, pulls a mask down, etc so at different segments you can see various areas of the face and eyes clearer than others. I was looking online for the type of mask it might be and found some masks that people use to apply makeup on that look similar. Here's a couple links:

http://store.makeupart.net/complete-make-up-mannequin-tool-kit--p57.aspx

http://www.giell.com/makeup-and-mas...mannequin-head-and-mask-set-by-celebrity.html

I can't explain why you can see the outline of her face as she is walking into the alcove other than the lighting/shadows changes throughout the video depending on where she is. But I definitely believe it is the outline of her face that is visible. You cannot see her eyes because there is a shadow from the glare above from the flashlight.

Thanks for the info. Can you show the isolated frame where you see masks dangling from neck or any other ss that are especially revealing to features of SP. tia

 

[lilyk]

I don't believe any evidence of a second killer has ever been presented.

No more evidence to indicate there is only one SP. Many believe (including myself) that there are two different gait and movement patterns of SP. And given the variable height and gender info offered by MPD, I think it leaves it at open to the possibility that there were two SP in the church.

 

[Thekt]

this killer did go to extreme lengths to conceal her identity - from what I can tell from staring at all the screen captures from the MPD surveillance video - she not only had a balaclava, but also a face guard, and it appears to me that she even has a couple of face masks and at one point they are dangling from her neck (and I had previously studied these masks at length and I posted that one looked like a baby's face and it was driving me crazy.) But anyway at certain segments she pulls the balaclava down, pulls a mask down, etc so at different segments you can see various areas of the face and eyes clearer than others. I was looking online for the type of mask it might be and found some masks that people use to apply makeup on that look similar. Here's a couple links:

http://store.makeupart.net/complete-make-up-mannequin-tool-kit--p57.aspx

http://www.giell.com/makeup-and-mas...mannequin-head-and-mask-set-by-celebrity.html

I can't explain why you can see the outline of her face as she is walking into the alcove other than the lighting/shadows changes throughout the video depending on where she is. But I definitely believe it is the outline of her face that is visible. You cannot see her eyes because there is a shadow from the glare above from the flashlight.

Those masks gave me chills. I can totally see them being used to make scary movie costumes and props and such.

 

[iluvmua]

The eyes look feminine to me. Jmo

 

[ezrah]

I may not always be commenting, but I am closely following this case. If you have certain frames you like to talk about, I am more than happy to look at them.

I'll just say this, altering frames - not deleting them - would leave a trace IMO, since the target is moving. Any blurring for example would have to be done consistently in every single layer.

That blur or obscurity would have to be of a progression in itself considering size and opacity. We are talking about hundreds and thousands of layers. Lots of manpower needed.

Granted, the SWFA released the video almost 8 months later, but MPD would have confiscated it on day one or two. Given the experience of the SWFA security cam operator or employee or owner generally watching the surveillance tapes - any tapes-, I am sure, they would have noticed any discrepancies. It's like watching your favorite show and they replaced some of the actors with lookalikes..just saying.

All my opinion only. I am not a forensic photo - video - photoshop etc. specialist. Take it all with a large grain of salt.

RIP Missy Bevers - NOT forgotten!

-Nin

Nin I'd be interested in seeing anything from these two frames. Specifically do you see anyone in either of the two vehicles parked in side of SWFA where Altima flashes headlights? Also, any frames of Altima showing how many ppl in it. tia

 

[ezrah]

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[ezrah]

For Nin

 

[Razz]

Nin I'd be interested in seeing anything from these two frames. Specifically do you see anyone in either of the two vehicles parked in side of SWFA where Altima flashes headlights? Also, any frames of Altima showing how many ppl in it. tia

I like your theory, Ezrah. But, if the Altima was followed out of the parking lot by one of those 2 cars,
wouldn't that have shown up on the surveillance cams?

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[ezrah]

I like your theory, Ezrah. But, if the Altima was followed out of the parking lot by one of those 2 cars,
wouldn't that have shown up on the surveillance cams?

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Which one? I don't believe we have seen any vehicles except Missy's truck on the COC video. The SWFA video is missing frames so I don't think we can say for sure. We are only seeing what LE/ SWFA is allowing us to see. There may not be someone in the other vehicles, there maybe someone in them who is nothing more than a witness or there may be someone in them who is in cahoots with Altima occupants and whatever they were up to in the early hours of April 18 just a short distance from where a brutal murder took place within a an hour or two. Oh, and not another murder had happened in Midlo in at least 10 years per LE comment. Just exploring the what the whats.

 

[Razz]

Which one? I don't believe we have seen any vehicles except Missy's truck on the COC video. The SWFA video is missing frames so I don't think we can say for sure. We are only seeing what LE/ SWFA is allowing us to see. There may not be someone in the other vehicles, there maybe someone in them who is nothing more than a witness or there may be someone in them who is in cahoots with Altima occupants and whatever they were up to in the early hours of April 18 just a short distance from where a brutal murder took place within a an hour or two. Oh, and not another murder had happened in Midlo in at least 10 years per LE comment. Just exploring the what the whats.

I meant if one of the 2 vehicles at SWFA followed the Altima, the SWFA cameras would have picked that up. Unless of course, someone cut out that bit of tape, but I think it would be noticeable to LE. (I don't mean any surveillance at the church.)

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[ezrah]

I meant if one of the 2 vehicles at SWFA followed the Altima, the SWFA cameras would have picked that up. Unless of course, someone cut out that bit of tape, but I think it would be noticeable to LE. (I don't mean any surveillance at the church.)

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Yes, LE and SWFA must know what those vehicles did or didn't do in the SWFA lot but we only know what's been shown on what's left of the video that was posted.

 

[ardenmost]

Yes, LE and SWFA must know what those vehicles did or didn't do in the SWFA lot but we only know what's been shown on what's left of the video that was posted.

Yes, I have asked about the two vehicles in the SWFA lot prior to this. Never an answer from a responsible source......Surely, SWFA knows if those two vehicles are a part of their fleet of in stock/company vehicles that are parked there nightly.

 

[ardenmost]

Which one? I don't believe we have seen any vehicles except Missy's truck on the COC video. The SWFA video is missing frames so I don't think we can say for sure. We are only seeing what LE/ SWFA is allowing us to see. There may not be someone in the other vehicles, there maybe someone in them who is nothing more than a witness or there may be someone in them who is in cahoots with Altima occupants and whatever they were up to in the early hours of April 18 just a short distance from where a brutal murder took place within a an hour or two. Oh, and not another murder had happened in Midlo in at least 10 years per LE comment. Just exploring the what the whats.

Did we even see Missy's truck on COC video? I cannot remember that we saw it. I thought LE said a vehicle was seen, but had no recognizable features and therefore, it was deemed "not verifiable" and not eligible as evidence...............Can anyone enlighten me?
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[ezrah]

Did we even see Missy's truck on COC video? I cannot remember that we saw it. I thought LE said a vehicle was seen, but had no recognizable features and therefore, it was deemed "not verifiable" and not eligible as evidence...............Can anyone enlighten me?
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Missy's truck is seen on surveillance video pulling into the COC lot. I believe we assume it was caught on the SWFA camera or the truck lights might have triggered a camera inside COC. There was a mention by LE of a vehicle caught in a video frame but they were not comfortable releasing a make or model iirc because of poor quality of the image. Arkansas Mimi can help us with her awesome files here I hope

 

[ardenmost]

Which one? I don't believe we have seen any vehicles except Missy's truck on the COC video. The SWFA video is missing frames so I don't think we can say for sure. We are only seeing what LE/ SWFA is allowing us to see. There may not be someone in the other vehicles, there maybe someone in them who is nothing more than a witness or there may be someone in them who is in cahoots with Altima occupants and whatever they were up to in the early hours of April 18 just a short distance from where a brutal murder took place within a an hour or two. Oh, and not another murder had happened in Midlo in at least 10 years per LE comment. Just exploring the what the whats.

I am just putting this out there: Crazy sauce! RBBM.