TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers, 45, killed in church/suspect in SWAT gear, Midlothian, 18 Apr 2016 #46

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There might be a cleaner version back there since our NIN is always clarifying the blurry. I wanted to add that at the time, LE et al were entering and exiting through the porte cochere by MB's truck, eg not walking through the crime scene. It sure looked like the crime scene was somewhere near the intersection of the main west entry (yellow taped photo) and the main hallway.
 
An iPad can send data over a cellular connection. Can't make or receive calls or send or receive SMS texts via the phone system. When a data transaction goes from an iPad (and in most cases your phone) gets to the tower it gets sent down a different path into internet space rather than into the phone system which are separate infrastructures.

That is why I said earlier (concerning phones) that only some data actually gets sent from your phone to AT&T (or Verizon, Sprint), whatever crosses the phone system has to fit in predefined transactions defined in what is called Signaling System 7 (SS7). Certain data kept on your phone is meant to be sent via the phone system. Data sent by Apps and especially web traffic do not meet that and go via an internet pathway rather than the phone system and which pathway is used is determined by the tower.
Thanks again for your very informative response!
 
The search warrant is wrong. I don’t know whether to attribute it to a typo or a miscommunication, but Missy was at the NW corner and not the SW corner. I know that’s hard to believe after believing something else for 5 years. I’m in the same boat.

Here is the aquarium:
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Here is the display case although it’s difficult to see and there are things either stacked on top of it or next to it:
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Here is the map. The question mark shows where the display case was:

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This is the link to @Gumshoe Stories post#589 in thread#45 page#30 showing the whole layout floorplan. It includes known cameras that picked up SP and approximate range before the motion detectors drop SP.

TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers, 45, killed in church/suspect in SWAT gear, Midlothian, 18 Apr 2016 #45

It seems to me that at 00:16 in the video SP first appears in the main hallway near the end of the table with the purple skirt - and that is the same point where MB disappears from view after she enters and walks in the opposite direction in the main hallway, in the unreleased video.

My question is what about the Northwest Entry where the glass case you are talking about is located? And, what did SP know? Were there no NW cameras or were the cameras not working or did SP disable them? Now we know SP had a gun so they could just shoot it, or spray paint it. SP had time to determine if there were no cameras at all, too, but how could SP have known if there were nonworking cameras? This is important because it can define whether this murder is targeted versus incidental: did SP commit the murder in the NW area knowing it would not be on camera, and then knowing SP could exit room#7 and also not be on camera? Did SP intentionally create the murder space?
 
This is the link to @Gumshoe Stories post#589 in thread#45 page#30 showing the whole layout floorplan. It includes known cameras that picked up SP and approximate range before the motion detectors drop SP.

TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers, 45, killed in church/suspect in SWAT gear, Midlothian, 18 Apr 2016 #45

It seems to me that at 00:16 in the video SP first appears in the main hallway near the end of the table with the purple skirt - and that is the same point where MB disappears from view after she enters and walks in the opposite direction in the main hallway, in the unreleased video.

My question is what about the Northwest Entry where the glass case you are talking about is located? And, what did SP know? Were there no NW cameras or were the cameras not working or did SP disable them? Now we know SP had a gun so they could just shoot it, or spray paint it. SP had time to determine if there were no cameras at all, too, but how could SP have known if there were nonworking cameras? This is important because it can define whether this murder is targeted versus incidental: did SP commit the murder in the NW area knowing it would not be on camera, and then knowing SP could exit room#7 and also not be on camera? Did SP intentionally create the murder space?

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SP first seen in Western Hallway near table with purple skirt

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I often wondered why the interior glass doors in the SW corner where Missy enters are propped open. Is that normal policy? If not, shouldn't that have alerted Missy straight away that something was off?

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Church Map
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/attachments/b822d2ed-1de9-475d-83a3-9b55d5ac1517-jpeg.291104/

 
This is the link to @Gumshoe Stories post#589 in thread#45 page#30 showing the whole layout floorplan. It includes known cameras that picked up SP and approximate range before the motion detectors drop SP.

TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers, 45, killed in church/suspect in SWAT gear, Midlothian, 18 Apr 2016 #45

It seems to me that at 00:16 in the video SP first appears in the main hallway near the end of the table with the purple skirt - and that is the same point where MB disappears from view after she enters and walks in the opposite direction in the main hallway, in the unreleased video.

My question is what about the Northwest Entry where the glass case you are talking about is located? And, what did SP know? Were there no NW cameras or were the cameras not working or did SP disable them? Now we know SP had a gun so they could just shoot it, or spray paint it. SP had time to determine if there were no cameras at all, too, but how could SP have known if there were nonworking cameras? This is important because it can define whether this murder is targeted versus incidental: did SP commit the murder in the NW area knowing it would not be on camera, and then knowing SP could exit room#7 and also not be on camera? Did SP intentionally create the murder space?
I’ll go ahead and share what I learned this week about the cameras. As it turns out, there were four cameras in total in the interior of the church. Obviously we know there were two cameras at the Southwest and two cameras at the Northeast. That’s four cameras. So there were no cameras at all at the north west or the Southeast.

This tracks with the way the footage was released to us, because it never really made a lot of sense for the footage to skip from the kitchen area all the way around to the Southwest camera. And then there was another gap at that other corner. What this means is that Police really don’t have much unreleased interior footage at all.

if you’re an advocate for a targeted murder, you could certainly interpret it as the suspect luring Missy to an area with no camera. Or if you’re on team untargeted, Maybe SP just happened to be at that end of the building when Missy came in. I’m not sure what benefit it would’ve been to SP to go to the trouble of making the murder be off camera. What does it matter? It’s not like the fact that he murdered Missy is going to be a secret when other people show up. He’s completely covered from head to toe and has already been on camera.
 
Awesome Questions with Important Points!

SP first seen in Western Hallway near table with purple skirt

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I often wondered why the interior glass doors in the SW corner where Missy enters are propped open. Is that normal policy? If not, shouldn't that have alerted Missy straight away that something was off?

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Church Map
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/attachments/b822d2ed-1de9-475d-83a3-9b55d5ac1517-jpeg.291104/

In the video, it shows SP passing by those opened inner SW doors so I don't believe that was his doing. I think it was thought that perhaps the cleaning crew left them open.
 
This is the link to @Gumshoe Stories post#589 in thread#45 page#30 showing the whole layout floorplan. It includes known cameras that picked up SP and approximate range before the motion detectors drop SP.

TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers, 45, killed in church/suspect in SWAT gear, Midlothian, 18 Apr 2016 #45

It seems to me that at 00:16 in the video SP first appears in the main hallway near the end of the table with the purple skirt - and that is the same point where MB disappears from view after she enters and walks in the opposite direction in the main hallway, in the unreleased video.

My question is what about the Northwest Entry where the glass case you are talking about is located? And, what did SP know? Were there no NW cameras or were the cameras not working or did SP disable them? Now we know SP had a gun so they could just shoot it, or spray paint it. SP had time to determine if there were no cameras at all, too, but how could SP have known if there were nonworking cameras? This is important because it can define whether this murder is targeted versus incidental: did SP commit the murder in the NW area knowing it would not be on camera, and then knowing SP could exit room#7 and also not be on camera? Did SP intentionally create the murder space?
I don't think we know for sure that is where MB disappeared but I guess we can now assume that as we know (kind of) where she ended up.

I'm trying to think how SP got back to the north hallway. Did he walk through the auditorium (beginning at the last video where it appears he is going to attempt entry into the auditorium at the sw entry) to one of the exits on the north side of the inside of the auditorium. If he wasn't picked up coming out of the auditorium door closest to the NE camera, chances are he came out of the auditorium at the door closest to the NW corner. In this
scenario, he possibly could have been oblivious to headlights and MB making entry and was caught by surprise or he heard her and got his gun out.

Do burglars carry guns? That's a huge leap from "roaming halls" to murder.

IMO, this whole thing appears to be full of incredible coincidences as well as extreme luck. Unless, of course, SP knew all of the camera outages.

@Gumshoe Stories, I may be imagining this but I recall in the early release of the videos, SP was seen walking away from the busted doors. For whatever reason, police took that part of the video out. That image would have been from a NW camera so maybe I'm not recalling correctly.
 
Does anyone know when the video of BB in a black ball cap being interviewed in front of his home by a TV station (supposedly after his 1st interview with police) was taped? Was it the day after he arrived home from the fishing trip?

When did BB's dad and step mother arrive at BB's?

The reason I ask, and I'm not making accusations or insinuations but it's something that has stuck in my hard head since I saw it and I need an answer. Right before BB is interviewed outside the front of his house (where he is wearing the black ballcap) the camera had panned from the back/side of his house where it included BB's Dad and MIL standing in the back.
I can no longer find that part of the video as I believe it was edited out.
For brevity......?

Is there an up to date accurate timeline of all interviews and comings and goings of all family and friends?
 
I don't think we know for sure that is where MB disappeared but I guess we can now assume that as we know (kind of) where she ended up.

I'm trying to think how SP got back to the north hallway. Did he walk through the auditorium (beginning at the last video where it appears he is going to attempt entry into the auditorium at the sw entry) to one of the exits on the north side of the inside of the auditorium. If he wasn't picked up coming out of the auditorium door closest to the NE camera, chances are he came out of the auditorium at the door closest to the NW corner. In this
scenario, he possibly could have been oblivious to headlights and MB making entry and was caught by surprise or he heard her and got his gun out.

Do burglars carry guns? That's a huge leap from "roaming halls" to murder.

IMO, this whole thing appears to be full of incredible coincidences as well as extreme luck. Unless, of course, SP knew all of the camera outages.

@Gumshoe Stories, I may be imagining this but I recall in the early release of the videos, SP was seen walking away from the busted doors. For whatever reason, police took that part of the video out. That image would have been from a NW camera so maybe I'm not recalling correctly.
I’ve never seen anything on video like what you’re describing. The only times SP is on video at that end of the building are when they first enter the hall from the kitchen, and then the room 10/9 sequence.

Do burglars carry guns? I don’t have statistics to back it up but when you think about it, someone engaged in a criminal act that they have pre-planned is going to bring self-protection. I did see a stat that in 38% of all robberies, a firearm was present, and another 8% involved a knife. Burglary and robbery are not the same thing, but I’m sure a good percentage of burglars will carry something. Most have the forethought to wear something to hide their identity; you’d think they’d give thought to self-protection too.

And respectfully, the logic behind the “huge leap” is something I don’t understand. Criminals don’t stand there in a frozen moment of time and think, “Should I kill this lady, or should I not? On the one hand she doesn’t know me. On the other hand she is the only eyewitness. If I kill her during this burglary it’s murder, and that’s a lot more years in prison than burglary, so just wait right there for a minute lady.... let me think.” Things happen in a split second, with little thought, and sometimes at the involuntary twitch of a trigger finger

I know that’s an absurd example, and not saying that was exactly what you were thinking. But isn’t that sort of the path people have to travel down when getting to this theory of, “Well, if it was a burglary they probably would have let her live; since they killed her, it must not be a burglary”?
 
I’ve never seen anything on video like what you’re describing. The only times SP is on video at that end of the building are when they first enter the hall from the kitchen, and then the room 10/9 sequence.

Do burglars carry guns? I don’t have statistics to back it up but when you think about it, someone engaged in a criminal act that they have pre-planned is going to bring self-protection. I did see a stat that in 38% of all robberies, a firearm was present, and another 8% involved a knife. Burglary and robbery are not the same thing, but I’m sure a good percentage of burglars will carry something. Most have the forethought to wear something to hide their identity; you’d think they’d give thought to self-protection too.

And respectfully, the logic behind the “huge leap” is something I don’t understand. Criminals don’t stand there in a frozen moment of time and think, “Should I kill this lady, or should I not? On the one hand she doesn’t know me. On the other hand she is the only eyewitness. If I kill her during this burglary it’s murder, and that’s a lot more years in prison than burglary, so just wait right there for a minute lady.... let me think.” Things happen in a split second, with little thought, and sometimes at the involuntary twitch of a trigger finger

I know that’s an absurd example, and not saying that was exactly what you were thinking. But isn’t that sort of the path people have to travel down when getting to this theory of, “Well, if it was a burglary they probably would have let her live; since they killed her, it must not be a burglary”?

I get your point, but to me, it would have been easier to run as he was by the kitchen door than taking out his gun and shooting her.

What did you think about my possible theory of how he got back to the NW hallway?
 
I get your point, but to me, it would have been easier to run as he was by the kitchen door than taking out his gun and shooting her.

What did you think about my possible theory of how he got back to the NW hallway?
Oh I think it’s very possible that SP explored the auditorium and then came out at the NW. or he might have come out closer to the main entrance. It’s a total guess at this point because it wouldn’t have been caught on camera. But let’s just say that Missy walks further down toward the NW trying to identify the source of the noise (maybe she’s thinking some piece of kitchen equipment is malfunctioning, so for her the source of the noise might be a thing rather than a person). And if she hasn’t yelled out “Hello?” then SP might emerge somewhere behind her not knowing she is there. So now she is blocking SP’s path to leave. If their positions are reversed, then maybe SP makes a different split second choice and just runs.

All just my speculation.
 
Is there any info on how many bullets were fired? It may give a clue as to how the confrontation between SP and Missy panned out. Multiple shots may suggest something different to a single bullet wound (and may also explain the glass shattering)?
 
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