TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #25

[Batbrat]

Respectfully, I've heard this mentioned several times. I don't understand this line of thinking. If I was alone and encountered someone dressed like this under these circumstances, it certainly wouldn't put me at ease no matter who they SAID they were or what their disguise implied. In no way would this allow them to get close to me. I would run BECAUSE they were dressed like this, as well as for many other reasons.

I think I probably would too. But I've been in a similar situation when I was in my 20s. There was a nation-wide manhunt for a fugitive that turned out to be staying down the street from an apartment where I lived. The FBI was scattered around the neighborhood, waiting to ambush the guy. I was completely unaware of this fact when I got up to get ready for work. As I was leaving, there was a heavily armed man in the stairwell dressed head to toe in black and a fed windbreaker. It really startled me, but as soon as he told me to get back into my apartment and wait until he said it was okay, I figured he was legit. Of course this was years before mass shootings, terrorist attacks, etc. Nowadays I'm not sure what I'd do... I think I'd probably run.

Edited to steer this back onto topic. I believe the costume was meant as a way to put the victim at ease. Whether or not it worked we may never know. But I think that was the purpose.

 

[arkansasmimi]

:websleuther: JMHO, No one is going to confess to this crime, unless it is an accomplice in some sort of way. And taking the DP off table isnt going to be a reason either for a confession. LEO will have to have evidence, and evidence to prove the charges. Possibly they would have enough to sway a plea deal to someone, again if there is an accomplice or someone obstructing justice, to turn on the Suspect. But JMHO, NO ONE is going to waltz in and confess to this murder. Only other scenario is maybe a deathbed confession and no one I am aware of is dying are they?

 

[arkansasmimi]

Not for sure, no. But the question was, how could blood spatter analysis be helpful in this case... If it exists.

We know she died of a head injury and had multiple puncture wounds to head and chest. I'd be surprised if there was no blood spatter.

Respectfully BBM, we do not know how she died, as in her COD or MOD from the Medical Examiner. This was stated in a Probable Cause Affidavit,
from Ford F150 SW, Affidavit, Warrant SIGNED AT 625 pm April 18 and SW Execution same date. It was FILED and made Public April 21, at 8: a.m. Autopsy was not completed until Tuesday Morning April 19th. MPD from start until now have stated they will not speak about her injuries or cause of death. JMHO they assumed this at the time of the SW affidavit due to appearance of injuries, not known fact.

Missy Bevers’ autopsy was completed by the Dallas County Medical Examiner's Office Tuesday morning. Midlothian police said they are not ready to make that report public. http://www.fox4news.com/news/126278594-story

* April 18, at 6:25 p.m. they were also calling the Suspect a he.

On 04/18/2016 at approximately 0500 hours, Midlothian Police Officers responded to an unresponsive person at Creekside Church, 5401 E US Hwy 287, Midlothian, Ellis County, Texas. Officers arrived on scene and found a white female, identified as Terri Bevers, date of birth 8/09/1970, deceased from a head wound. Officers on scene viewed the surveillance video and observed a male subject in a police jacket and a helmet walking through the building carrying tools and was shown to be burglarizing this location. It is believed this unknown male used an unknown instrument to cause the death of Terri Bevers at this location. http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/He...-Seized-Search-Warrant-376599651.html#warrant

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

Batbrat:
You may want to consider putting a logo of sorts on your enhancements. There's beings out there in TV land that have been known to take proprietary work such as maps & credit the work to themselves, iykwim?

 

[arkansasmimi]

I've always thought the "creepy" linked-in message from someone she didn't think she knew was actually from SP. For 2 reasons: the timing (so close to the murder) and the platform used (Linked-In, where we know - according to the SW - that she was sending intimate msgs with one or more people). So I do think it's an important clue.

Why would SP send a creepy message if they knew they were going to kill her? Because killing her wasn't enough. I think SP wanted to terrorize her, make her scared.

I took the creepy strange LinkedIn message as maybe the friend knew of the CW communication and possibly didnt remember his name, and was wanting LE to check him out? JMHO thinking out loud. Friend may not have realized that that communication went back to Jan

 

[Sparky]

Good morning,

This thread is for Missy.

Last night I posted to agree to disagree and move on for the night. re: the affairs and it still continued.

There are several members, who IMO are working very hard to identify the perp with their graphics. If you're not interested in their pics. Please Scroll and Roll, no need for rude comments.

BB's health issues are his own.

Please do not attack a poster. We all have opinions just like the next person. Scroll and roll, use your alert button, or the ignore button.

And please no name variations for anyone.

Please thank this post.

Thank you and Happy Saturday!

 

[BigCityAccountant]

. I agree. Its a woman and I refuse to watch the vid anymore. Im crosseyed now. Hoping its temporary.

I'm wondering if that means that in his mind~~he is pretty positive he knows who it is? Disgusted with this woman, perhaps? Disappointed in that person? Can't watch because he can't believe that this person did this to MB? If that is the case and he has been honest with LE~~we should see an arrest soon.

 

[rsd1200]

The perp uses the hammer to hit the end of the pry bar. What part of a pick and blade type hammer would they be using to hit the bar with? It's a normal hammer. Imo

My best guess is a bricklayers hammer with a long blade or something similar. This type hammer has one flat traditional face and a chisel-shaped blade.

MOO--My Opinion Only[/QUOTE]
I lean toward bricklayers hammer too. Tools are expensive! By having all of the other tools, and they honestly seem fairly comfortable with handling them, I think they work with tools regularly. They don't really fumble around with them.

 

[BigCityAccountant]

At the end of NG's show, she certainly implied there was "straying" outside of the marriage by both husband and wife. fwiw

Straying is my choice of wording. One can take what she said anyway they want. A little flirting, or as some couples enjoy - swinging? We don't know. Is it connected to Missy's murder? We don't know. It must be hell for the entire family of the deceased. To have their private lives become public knowledge.

I have had married friends who decided to separate, but still living together because they thought they wanted to get divorced. Both parties were seeing other people. However after dating for a while, they decided the really did love each other and they got back together. This could be possible in the Bevers situation as well. It could also be the cause of the perp wanting to continue a relationship but MB broke it off or BB broke it off.

 

[BigCityAccountant]

I've come to the conclusion that MPD has run out of ideas. I really have.

June 3, 2016 6:35 pm
"Detectives say they are stymied in their investigation into the murder of a fitness instructor in Midlothian"

I hope not~~for Missy's sake. RIP Missy. :rose:

 

[txmommy]

Batbrat:
You may want to consider putting a logo of sorts on your enhancements. There's beings out there in TV land that have been known to take proprietary work such as maps & credit the work to themselves, iykwim?

I agree! I was going to suggest Batbrat watermark this excellent sleuthing before someone uses it and claims it as their own....

 

[Cannonball3804]

Respectfully BBM, we do not know how she died, as in her COD or MOD from the Medical Examiner. This was stated in a Probable Cause Affidavit,
from Ford F150 SW, Affidavit, Warrant SIGNED AT 625 pm April 18 and SW Execution same date. It was FILED and made Public April 21, at 8: a.m. Autopsy was not completed until Tuesday Morning April 19th. MPD from start until now have stated they will not speak about her injuries or cause of death. JMHO they assumed this at the time of the SW affidavit due to appearance of injuries, not known fact.

Missy Bevers’ autopsy was completed by the Dallas County Medical Examiner's Office Tuesday morning. Midlothian police said they are not ready to make that report public. http://www.fox4news.com/news/126278594-story

* April 18, at 6:25 p.m. they were also calling the Suspect a he.

On 04/18/2016 at approximately 0500 hours, Midlothian Police Officers responded to an unresponsive person at Creekside Church, 5401 E US Hwy 287, Midlothian, Ellis County, Texas. Officers arrived on scene and found a white female, identified as Terri Bevers, date of birth 8/09/1970, deceased from a head wound. Officers on scene viewed the surveillance video and observed a male subject in a police jacket and a helmet walking through the building carrying tools and was shown to be burglarizing this location. It is believed this unknown male used an unknown instrument to cause the death of Terri Bevers at this location. http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/He...-Seized-Search-Warrant-376599651.html#warrant

I'm comfortable saying it was a head injury, without being specific as to what caused it. Sure, it's possible she died of a massive heart attack after being attacked. Not likely, though. Police were sure enough to swear these facts as they understood them before a judge.

 

[Glammie]

I kept wondering how people are seeing a "heavy" person in the surveillance footage, and thought maybe it was a combination between top-down camera angle and the bulky gear. Here's what happens when a camera is at a top-down angle:

I created a brief animation using my "body scan" technique. I removed pockets, belts, shoes, padding, fabric, and helmet from the subject, limiting the amount stripped from each layer to the general body frame. Wherever an area of clothing folded against or confined an area of the body, that was the size I determined the body part to be and kept it consistent frame to frame. Using a technique similar to facial reconstruction (but subtractive instead of additive), I used key frames to eliminate the costume. I did not add or subtract any weight. Only the obvious bulk from clothing was subtracted. This is what I ended up with. I thought you guys might find it interesting:

Wow great animation


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[arkansasmimi]

Originally Posted by arkansasmimi View Post
Respectfully BBM, we do not know how she died, as in her COD or MOD from the Medical Examiner. This was stated in a Probable Cause Affidavit,
from Ford F150 SW, Affidavit, Warrant SIGNED AT 625 pm April 18 and SW Execution same date. It was FILED and made Public April 21, at 8: a.m. Autopsy was not completed until Tuesday Morning April 19th. MPD from start until now have stated they will not speak about her injuries or cause of death. JMHO they assumed this at the time of the SW affidavit due to appearance of injuries, not known fact.

Missy Bevers’ autopsy was completed by the Dallas County Medical Examiner's Office Tuesday morning. Midlothian police said they are not ready to make that report public. http://www.fox4news.com/news/126278594-story

* April 18, at 6:25 p.m. they were also calling the Suspect a he.

On 04/18/2016 at approximately 0500 hours, Midlothian Police Officers responded to an unresponsive person at Creekside Church, 5401 E US Hwy 287, Midlothian, Ellis County, Texas. Officers arrived on scene and found a white female, identified as Terri Bevers, date of birth 8/09/1970, deceased from a head wound. Officers on scene viewed the surveillance video and observed a male subject in a police jacket and a helmet walking through the building carrying tools and was shown to be burglarizing this location. It is believed this unknown male used an unknown instrument to cause the death of Terri Bevers at this location. http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Hea...1.html#warrant

Well, it's possible that police are wrong, sure. But it's all we have to go on unless told otherwise. They had to swear that they believed those details to be true before a judge, and have him sign it. And I am sure they had lots of input from various professionals at the crime scene in order to feel pretty good about taking that to the judge.

Respectfully, just trying to keep things in context with timeline of things Factually known.

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

This may be far fetched or OT but we are grasping at straws: does anyone remember a case that a pet was used as ransome or blackmail (emotional, of course) to keep someone quiet or to show them a warning? In general, I despise when criminals use kids or pets as "hostages" or make them "collateral damage" in these cases!
Anyone?

Moo

 

[PoirotryInMotion]

Batbrat:
You may want to consider putting a logo of sorts on your enhancements. There's beings out there in TV land that have been known to take proprietary work such as maps & credit the work to themselves, iykwim?

Not that putting a logo on would prevent certain ones from stealing it. But, at least if it ends up on national TV, it will have some sort of attribution.

Anyone's work is copyright protected from the moment of creation (logo or not). That said, if it is 'published' publicly (eg. in an online forum), there are some who will regard it as in the public domain. (For a fact, if you submit something for publication and are selling first rights, it cannot have appeared in print, even online, previously.)

All said, I agree that your time-intensive work ought to at least be credited to you if someone swipes it and uses it on national TV. Love what you did upthread to illustrate body frame under that SWAT gear...really helpful.

 

[Razz]

I can't find a link to this, but it's been mentioned that on the day of her return from Austin, she visited the FD. She had a fire hose in the back of her truck (probably for fitness exercises) so she probably knew someone there. Anyway, with all the talk of breeching tools SP had.....it sparked some thoughts. However, there doesn't appear to be any phone #s of that ilk on the SW, unless communication was way under the radar.

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[ATasteOfHoney]

I kept wondering how people are seeing a "heavy" person in the surveillance footage, and thought maybe it was a combination between top-down camera angle and the bulky gear. Here's what happens when a camera is at a top-down angle:

I created a brief animation using my "body scan" technique. I removed pockets, belts, shoes, padding, fabric, and helmet from the subject, limiting the amount stripped from each layer to the general body frame. Wherever an area of clothing folded against or confined an area of the body, that was the size I determined the body part to be and kept it consistent frame to frame. Using a technique similar to facial reconstruction (but subtractive instead of additive), I used key frames to eliminate the costume. I did not add or subtract any weight. Only the obvious bulk from clothing was subtracted. This is what I ended up with. I thought you guys might find it interesting:

Excellent job!
FWIW, it looks like he has a left-sided weakness in his hip-down-to-his-foot area. He pushes off from his right side in his gait. His right side is stronger to me.

Moo

 

[arkansasmimi]

Quote Originally Posted by Scout View Post
This is not what I heard on NG, but I admit I tuned out Nancy's misguided speculation.

The following is from the narration of a male reporter included in her program:

"Police confirm Bevers' husband Brandon knew about her infidelity in the relationship and he told police about it. Police extracted deleted information from Missy Bevers' phone -- information that confirmed an affair."

The warrant says:


In the course of our investigation we have had multiple references to the Decedent’s social media accounts, specifically her Linkedln account. Linkedln is a social media networking service used to make connections to others. In the course of our investigation, we have received information from interviews conducted with persons of interest and persons close to the victim that the decedent was a regular user of Linkedln. During one such interview a friend of the victim told law enforcement that less than three days before the murder, the victim showed this friend a private message from the victim’s Linkedln account.

Did Missy show that message to BB also? Or there were two people who knew about the private message from a LinkedIn account? Maybe it's a leap...?

Respectfully added, that the ATT Target Numbers stated the following, and CW is NOT an individual on this particular SW, which was dated day prior April 25. On April 26, Emergency Data Preservation was faxed over to LinkedIn and April 27 the SW for LinkedIn was signed.

ATT Target Numbers SW bottom pg 8/9 and top of 9/9:

Throughout the course of this MURDER investigation, evidence has been recovered from
electronic data extractions performed on Brandon Bevers (husband) and Ms. Bevers
personal electronic devices (lphones and an lpad). This extracted information has
provided officers with potential persons of interest "Target Numbers" based on the
nature of the communications (text, messages, and recovered deleted messages)
between Ms. Bevers and the above "Target Numbers". A portion of these messages (as
well as deleted messages) recovered indicate and confirm statement and tips provided
to officers of an ongoing financial and marital struggle as well as intimate/personal
relationship(s) external to the marriage with identified "Target Numbers". Officers have
also received several tips from citizens with possible suspect leads due to the surveillance
footage being released to the general public. Some of these leads have been very specific
as to the approximate weight, height, build, distinct walk and or feminine sway of the
suspect. These tips have been followed up and are identified as "Target Numbers"
identified above.

Persons Listed in the ATT Target Numbers SW April 25:
MB
BB
RB
VB
AT
CT
KC
MC
WH

JMHO,

CT named because of local rumors : Officers have
also received several tips from citizens with possible suspect leads due to the surveillance
footage being released to the general public. Some of these leads have been very specific
as to the approximate weight, height, build, distinct walk and or feminine sway of the
suspect.

RB & VB because of Shirt gate

 

[Gwyndolyn]

Consider this scenario: MB pulls in under canopy. (camera pick that up at 4:18 because it is already in motion mode due to SP walking around inside.) MB's key only fits the main door, not the canopy door. She walks around to the main front door, carrying equipment, mats, whatever. 4:20am Heads back down the hallway to the door where the canopy and her truck is parked to unlock that door from the inside. Meanwhile she sees things are in disarray SP jumps out and brutally attacks her, making sure she is dead. Leaving tools beside her body. SP walks back to the hallway and leaves where he entered, and disappears. Meanwhile 1st CG pulls in, parks near her truck waiting for others. May not know if the classes are inside or not. CG has a "rule" that if you arrive first, you wait on another CG to enter the building for safety's sake. Other campers show up.. the exterior doors are still locked where MB had originally parked her truck, so the CG's sit and wait. At 5:00 the CG's enter the main front door that MB had originally unlocked and walk towards the canopy door and find MB. Doo CPR and Call 911.

Very plausible and explains the timeline. It also better explains the 1st camper's motives. He/she waits in the rain for the door closest to be opened and for signs of class beginning.

My only issues are: why would they have different keys for different exterior doors? Why wouldn't the interaction be caught on tape?