TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #34

[Tippy Lynn]

Thank you! I don't know why I didn't have the Truck SW eons ago, but I did not. So if MB's phone was not 'inside' the truck, then it was either loose on the grounds or in CoC or on her person, and like her clothes and wedding ring and anything else, was simply collected as evidence and inventoried. But then to access and extract data from both the iPad and iPhone, they needed the additional SW. Got it. PS to anyone - poster kimi_SFC added .jpg images of the FB SW to the media thread for those who don't have scribd - and Thank you, kimi!

One of the SW stated that LE believed suspect may have recorded the crime. (not the exact words in the SW)

It just crossed my mind that if MB had her iPhone in her hand or pocket when she was ambushed maybe an app was pushed or a video recording was started in a fall or struggle and a video was started without the suspect knowing.

This is just a thought that I wanted to mention....I have nothing to back it up.

 

[arkansasmimi]

Thank you! I don't know why I didn't have the Truck SW eons ago, but I did not. So if MB's phone was not 'inside' the truck, then it was either loose on the grounds or in CoC or on her person, and like her clothes and wedding ring and anything else, was simply collected as evidence and inventoried. But then to access and extract data from both the iPad and iPhone, they needed the additional SW. Got it. PS to anyone - poster kimi_SFC added .jpg images of the FB SW to the media thread for those who don't have scribd - and Thank you, kimi!

That is what I got into a discussion with someone early on. The iPhone was not listed on the truck inventory so it had to have been with her (unless was home but not reasonable jmho) They then used the SW for the Truck to to get the iPad and all things listed. Then they did the SW for the iPhone and iPad (iPad was in the truck) was to extract the info from those electronic devices. Personal effects (ring or any other jewelry) would go with her and JMHO be retrieved by someone from the Coroner. BB has rec'd those personal effect back iirc he even posted photo long ago on his fb. Clothing they would keep as evidence. For what it worth I am thankful that the evil Suspect did leave her jewelry. It was not part of the plan (or it seems) but for whatever reason, I am glad that the girls will have that sentimental items. Praying for answers to come soon. I sure no one wants this monster off the street and in front of a Judge anymore than the MPD.

 

[Treelights]

One of the SW stated that LE believed suspect may have recorded the crime. (not the exact words in the SW)

It just crossed my mind that if MB had her iPhone in her hand or pocket when she was ambushed maybe an app was pushed or a video recording was started in a fall or struggle and a video was started without the suspect knowing.

This is just a thought that I wanted to mention....I have nothing to back it up.

From Nancy Grace Transcripts:
"Aired April 28, 2016 - 20:00:00 ET"
"Ari Zoldan is with us, technology analyst, CEO of Quantum Networks. You know what`s interesting, Mr. Zoldan, is that the iPad and the iPhone and
other valuables were still in her Ford F-150. "

http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1604/28/ng.01.html

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/

 

[Sillybilly]

Websleuths policy is that a person must be an officially named POI or suspect (via MSM or LE), or approved by WS Admin. IIRC, Admin approved discussion of the individuals named in the search warrants (i.e. CT, AJ, BB, etc). Those are the individuals that you can speculate on or theorize broadly based on facts as we know them via MSM or LE.

What you can't do is perpetuate theories about unnamed persons that other members don't have a clue who or what you are talking about (as evidenced by numerous posts that were removed), to the degree that specific places are named (i.e. Fort Worth and some storage facility). It is considered baiting when you indicate you have information that others do not have and keep them guessing as to what your theory is or how you arrived at it.

Hope that clarifies. Any other questions, please PM a Mod or Admin for further clarification rather than derail the thread by questioning moderation.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

Websleuths policy is that a person must be an officially named POI or suspect (via MSM or LE), or approved by WS Admin. IIRC, Admin approved discussion of the individuals named in the search warrants (i.e. CT, AJ, BB, etc). Those are the individuals that you can speculate on or theorize broadly based on facts as we know them via MSM or LE.

What you can't do is perpetuate theories about unnamed persons that other members don't have a clue who or what you are talking about (as evidenced by numerous
posts that were removed), to the degree that specific places are named (i.e. Fort Worth and some storage facility). It is considered baiting when you indicate you have information that others do not have and keep them guessing as to what your theory is or how you arrived at it.

Hope that clarifies. Any other questions, please PM a Mod or Admin for further clarification rather than derail the thread by questioning moderation.

:tyou:

 

[knowthings]

All I can think is that they must be waiting on some DNA test or tower dump records retrieval - something that takes time to do..I know I have my SUSPECT--no longer POI..

Male or Female?

 

[arkansasmimi]

Originally Posted by Tippy Lynn View Post
One of the SW stated that LE believed suspect may have recorded the crime. (not the exact words in the SW)

It just crossed my mind that if MB had her iPhone in her hand or pocket when she was ambushed maybe an app was pushed or a video recording was started in a fall or struggle and a video was started without the suspect knowing.

This is just a thought that I wanted to mention....I have nothing to back it up.

From Nancy Grace Transcripts:
"Aired April 28, 2016 - 20:00:00 ET"
"Ari Zoldan is with us, technology analyst, CEO of Quantum Networks. You know what`s interesting, Mr. Zoldan, is that the iPad and the iPhone and
other valuables were still in her Ford F-150. "

http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1604/28/ng.01.html

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/

Respectfully, MB iPhone was not listed as being retrieved from her Ford F150. Her iPad and Planner were taken per the SW to retrieve http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/He...rs-Truck-Seized-Search-Warrant-376599651.html and the last page does not show up so Jethro4WS posted the complete SW link with last page confirming this. http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...eline-*NO-DISCUSSION*&p=12721634#post12721634

 

[MrsPC]

Respectfully, MB iPhone was not listed as being retrieved from her Ford F150. Her iPad and Planner were taken per the SW to retrieve http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/He...rs-Truck-Seized-Search-Warrant-376599651.html and the last page does not show up so Jethro4WS posted the complete SW link with last page confirming this. http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...eline-*NO-DISCUSSION*&p=12721634#post12721634

I'm just asking because I recall reading it here on Websleuths in one of the earliest threads. But wasn't it reported by someone that one of the campers actually called 911 using MB's phone which was close to her body? Or am I mis-remembering this?

 

[arkansasmimi]

Quote Originally Posted by arkansasmimi View Post
Respectfully, MB iPhone was not listed as being retrieved from her Ford F150. Her iPad and Planner were taken per the SW to retrieve http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Hea...376599651.html and the last page does not show up so Jethro4WS posted the complete SW link with last page confirming this. http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...4#post12721634

I'm just asking because I recall reading it here on Websleuths in one of the earliest threads. But wasn't it reported by someone that one of the campers actually called 911 using MB's phone which was close to her body? Or am I mis-remembering this?

JMHO, that I would consider a rumor with out proof. But again JMHO MB seemed the type to have her phone in hand, so it not being in her veh, I feel confident that she had taken it in with her. I also think whomever called 911 used their own phones. (allegedly per MPD there were 2 people called at approx 5:00 and than the iPhone and iPad said some called at 5:06 am stating she was not breathing and deceased. Then 1 min later per the official timeline, FD arrived 1 min later at 5:07 iirc)

ETA : I dont remember that but that does not mean someone didnt say it. This is a strange case on WS with no VI so hard to say on some things. JMHO

 

[Jackeee]

QUICK POLL

Thank this post if you think Cags is going to return in 2 weeks, only to sigh with disappointment and frustration that Swatperp lives on in freedom

See you back here in 2 weeks Cags. Can't believe that you won't be sneaking a peek every now and then. Enjoy your holiday and come back with new insights into this case. Hopefully there will be some kind of update. My heart hurts for Missy and baby DeOrr. I check on both of them every day.

 

[gliving]

Respectfully, MB iPhone was not listed as being retrieved from her Ford F150. Her iPad and Planner were taken per the SW to retrieve http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/He...rs-Truck-Seized-Search-Warrant-376599651.html and the last page does not show up so Jethro4WS posted the complete SW link with last page confirming this. http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...eline-*NO-DISCUSSION*&p=12721634#post12721634

Thank you Mimi. I remember Missy's phone was not password protected - meaning that LE could have easy access to her data. Of course the sw makes is all official. Here's some pertinent snippets:

http://www.star-telegram.com/news/state/texas/article76028232.html
"The warrants reveal that Midlothian police requested over seven weeks’ worth of phone records from Bevers and eight others identified as “target numbers” that may have been in contact with Bevers in the weeks leading up to the murder.

The target numbers were obtained through tips from the public. The warrant states police wanted to investigate two person of interest."


http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Fe...nstructor-Murder-Investigation-376441291.html
“There is strategic value right now in not releasing that [the medical examiner's report] to the public at this time. So we’re not, right now,” Johnson said.
Bevers' mobile phone was not password protected, so police have had no trouble accessing the device and reviewing texts, phone calls, emails and other data that may prove relevant to their investigation."

http://www.dallasobserver.com/news/...-remains-in-midlothian-church-killing-8232367
"Wednesday afternoon, Midlothian police told reporters that Bevers' phone was found unlocked and they'd had no problems accessing her calls and texts."

I've always hoped that between Missy's prolific online presence and her iphone history, LE would be able to pin this down. On the other hand, maybe the perp was familiar enough with Missy that they didn't need social media info?!

 

[Treelights]

Respectfully, MB iPhone was not listed as being retrieved from her Ford F150. Her iPad and Planner were taken per the SW to retrieve http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/He...rs-Truck-Seized-Search-Warrant-376599651.html and the last page does not show up so Jethro4WS posted the complete SW link with last page confirming this. http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...eline-*NO-DISCUSSION*&p=12721634#post12721634

Perhaps her phone was in her purse in her truck? Her purse was listed as being in the truck.

IMOO.

 

[11frogs]

Just reading along and your post made me think of something (not sure why). This is not my favorite theory by any means, but just another spin on old news: All the CG campers must live pretty close to CoC or they would go to another group. What if SP was a camper, perhaps someone who is single, has a spouse who works nights, whatever, they can leave without a problem at any hour. They go to CoC and murder MB - done at 4:30AM. Then they just drive home and park in garage (arrive 4:40), strip off and dump the gear, leaving SP in workout clothes and add sneakers(4:45). Drive back to CoC (arrive 4:55) and join other campers to "discover" MB. I only like this because although SP is covered from head to toe, this gives SP the opportunity to contaminate the murder scene in a way that can be explained away for example a hair lost or fingerprint, and also perhaps transfer evidence like MB's bood drops into the driver's side floor of their car on their shoes after they "discover" her. As for the two trips if caught on any cameras or seen by a witness, that's easy - they almost got to CoC and had to go right back home because they forgot their weights and mat - and No, they didn't see any unusual cars or anything when asked. //This has been Just some theory, not even the level of MOO.

I think this is plausible. Would explain knowing schedule. Wearing leggings under tactical outfit. Great theory Sandy!!!

 

[No it's not]

QUICK POLL

Thank this post if you think Swatperp will have been identified and arrested by the time Cags gets back in 2 weeks

How about a fall vacation..;--) -Nin

 

[Jethro4WS]

Perhaps her phone was in her purse in her truck? Her purse was listed as being in the truck.

IMOO.

Only 2 items are listed on the returned items page of that Truck warrant. Her IPad and a personal planner. Nothing else.

 

[Treelights]

Only 2 items are listed on the returned items page of that Truck warrant. Her IPad and a personal planner. Nothing else.

Are you meaning that they kept her purse?

Are you meaning that the purse is not listed?

IMOO.

 

[Jethro4WS]

Are you meaning that they kept her purse?

Are you meaning that the purse is not listed?

IMOO.

Purse is not listed only the 2 items I mentioned are listed on the signed return page.

 

[arkansasmimi]

Quote Originally Posted by arkansasmimi View Post
Respectfully, MB iPhone was not listed as being retrieved from her Ford F150. Her iPad and Planner were taken per the SW to retrieve http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Hea...376599651.html and the last page does not show up so Jethro4WS posted the complete SW link with last page confirming this. http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...4#post12721634

Perhaps her phone was in her purse in her truck? Her purse was listed as being in the truck.

IMOO.

Except that they do not show seizing her purse.
They show the items secured

and then the collected/seized on the last page no iPhone

 

[arkansasmimi]

Are you meaning that they kept her purse?

Are you meaning that the purse is not listed?

IMOO.

JMHO, her purse was most likely returned to the family when they picked up the truck. Again jmho.

 

[Batbrat]

I just finished watching a Dateline (Peggy Nadell) where the case was solved using phone data. The daughter of the victim was a strong suspect in LE's eyes from the beginning. LE had her under 24/7 surveillance based on having purchased cleaning supplies the day before the crime. Turns out an investigator was able to unravel the case based almost solely on phone tracking and surveillance camera footage of a burner phone purchase. In the end, the suspected daughter wasn't involved at all and she was cleared. Instead, it was the victim's daughter-in-law.

Despite what others have said here about how it only takes a couple days to sift through phone records, they talked about how complicated it was to link a web of phones, burner phones, callers, and locations - tying the entire case together. This case took this investigator months to sift through the evidence, and she was a Chief Investigator and crime analyst with experience in phone forensics.

I don't think phone forensics is as easy peasy as some here on WS believe. I also think this case will be solved with similar evidence. Cell phone tracking/data and surveillance video. I hope they have someone as savvy as investigator Robyn Arias working on the case.