TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016- # 7

[Murrayforlife]

After of course seeing justice for MB, I will be so glad to see if perp(s) were:
A)younger girl
B)older guy
C)team of 2
I firmly believe that motive regardless is hatred or revenge based on all the other evidence we have seen. And the opportunity was obvious, to someone close.

 

[LongIslandDweller]

I wonder who has access to the church videos - security, IT?

 

[buddhanna]

Question. If your spouse and parents of your kids was killed because of extramarital affairs brought on by them.

Would you really care. Woul you seem joyful to say that I told you so while your spouse is in the grave?

No. I don't believe I would. I think I would be very sad about the whole thing.

 

[Breck80]

I was under the impression Missy was in Austin at the CG Arena Group Fitness for the whole weekend for a Camp Gladiators regional meeting. A photo of her there at the arena with 2 male trainers in Total Transformation t-shirts was posted via her account on Friday, April 14 on Facebook.

If you look a few pages up, you'll see where someone found her digital footprint from Sunday. She left Austin that morning & checked back in in Cedar Hill & then Ovilla. The maps are there too & whatever information everyone found officially from that Sunday.

 

[SpanishInquisition]

Seeing how the side door was opened and how panic bars might have been removed (presumably the perp did something the doors that Missy entered), I wonder if the perp was setting the whole place up like a Roach Motel where you can get in, but you can't get out. I wonder if the campers had to have first responders let them out. I'm wondering if Missy went inside and either immediately found out that she couldn't get out the way she came in and so had to wander or if she went into a room and then got trapped in a similar way and found out that the doors had been modified when she tried to escape from a room. I hadn't figured out how the perp knew she'd be moving around, but if the perp knew it because the perp knew she'd have to just go inside to plug something into the wall, everything else would have been taken care of once the side entrance door closed and locked behind her requiring her to move around the building.

 

[DexterMorgan]

No. I don't believe I would. I think I would be very sad about the whole thing.

I agree. And the sorrow over the family dog would never trump my interview about my wife.

Now I love our dogs. But the 2nd presser should have stated forget the dog that killed our dog.

And concentrate on the dog that killed our family member. Jmo

 

[Elle Vader]

Whoever did this crime knew that Missy would arrive first, early and alone. He/she knew that others would not arrive at the same time as Missy but rather would arrive some time later - 1/2 hour or so. So, he/she knew this Monday morning routine. This to me, is critical to solving the case.

Just how many people would know this information? Not many. In fact, in all likelihood not even the whole camper class would know what time she arrived before class, or how much time she spent setting things up and what time other camper/early birds would start to arrive. Just a few would know. Very few.

Family, very close friends and helpers would know. I have taken many classes and had no idea what time the instructor arrived to set up or what time others began to arrive - only perhaps that they were there when I got there or came in after I arrived. The perp knew there was a window of opportunity to act.

Was there someone who continued to volunteer to help her set up in the mornings? This person would know that there was no need to disarm any alarm system as he/she had been there during set up time before but perhaps was not a welcomed assistant?

While this may be a jealous lover/spouse/whatever situation the perp HAD to know the early morning routine to be able to judge the timing of the murder and get away without fear of having campers stumble upon the crime in progress. The calm strolls through the church tell me that the perp knew precisely what time Missy would arrive and was not hanging out looking through a window to see her arrive. IOW not worried about her coming in too early or being accompanied by other campers.

This person didn't just know that Missy would be teaching a class at 5am but that she would arrive around 4:15am and roughly 20 minutes before anyone else would drive into the parking lot.

BB stated that Missy touched a lot of people's lives in meaningful ways as she helped them realize their physical potential and mental strength. We may have someone who latched onto that kind of attention, had fantasies that this was more than a professional relationship, had found meaning in life through Missy and when the attention was not reciprocated - bam! "You lead me on!" You know the type and yes, it could still be a woman.

JMHO

BBM. Do you think they really knew what time she arrived? Or did they somewhat guess and that is why they were there 30 minutes before she arrived?

 

[Elle*Bee]

Question. If your spouse and parents of your kids was killed because of extramarital affairs brought on by them.

Would you really care. While you seem joyful to say that I told you so while your spouse is in the grave?

I personally would care. I'd be devastated by the infidelity (angry about it, for sure) but I don't know that it would negate every positive feeling I ever had toward my spouse. And while I would be hurt that he wasn't the *spouse* I thought he was, I would absolutely mourn the loss of my parenting partner and I would grieve that my children lost a good parent. (Unfaithful spouse doesn't necessarily mean bad parent.)

Sometimes bad behavior is part of an over all poor character. Sometimes it is symptom of something else (weakness, breakdown in the marriage) - not justifiable, but a possible explanation.

 

[Bill Carson]

This was the start of a new camp - April 18th, so if there were new campers joining no one could be sure who would show up early besides Missy. Another CG trainer lead the group while she was in Austin so maybe Missy had walked him/her through the set up routine. Also last night, a WS'er familiar with the Church of Christ posted in thread 6, that it was very unusual for the church to allow a non-member to use the facilities for something like CG and that Missy may have had a connection with a church member. This is rumor only so hope it is ok to mention.

bbm

That poster claimed to be familiar with the Churches of Christ generally, not this particular congregation. As someone who grew up in the Churches of Christ ("the Lord's Church," as members are wont to refer to it), times have changed. Creekside is not your grandfather's church of Christ: it is a fairly progressive congregation (if only within the Churches of Christ).

Now, Missy may have had a connection with a church member, but I would not say that it is necessarily unusual for the CoC to allow an outside group to use the church building. (Because, as any self-respecting Church of Christ member (or Campbellite, as they were once perjoratively referred to as) will tell you, "the Church is the people.")

 

[Elle Vader]

Question. If your spouse and parents of your kids was killed because of extramarital affairs brought on by them.

Would you really care. While you seem joyful to say that I told you so while your spouse is in the grave?

It would add to my sadness, not negate it. I would be sad that my marriage wasn't what I had thought it was.

 

[buddhanna]

I agree. And the sorrow over the family dog would never trump my interview about my wife.

Now I love our dogs. But the 2nd presser should have stated forget the dog that killed our dog.

And concentrate on the dog that killed our family member. Jmo

yes. well put

 

[ORNurse]

OK, let's say you were out of town and your spouse was murdered. You had nothing to do with this crime. What would you do? Press conferences? Lawyer up? No Comment? I think about this and I can say that I truly don't know. Everybody always says to get legal advise, but if you have nothing to hide, why?

 

[arkansasmimi]

Also, if the perp removed the panic bar exit device from the door, it would mean that the victim would not be able to escape through that door that goes from the kitchen to the outside. Yikes.

True but that is also on the other side of building and down hallways and the Kitchen appears to be one room that is locked tight to the outside hallways (understandable) Isnt that kind of door, able to "push" from inside and just go out, only locked from outside (unless has been unlocked. (as in they unlock them on days the Church would be open ...

In the Press Conf. they said that Suspect went thru kitchen and just broke the other door glass. Suspect could have went out any door leaving if you can just push that device to go out.Correct? The Captain said they think suspect went back out way came in .. through the metal door. so not sure. *No evidence that Suspect went through any other door although glass was broken (at end of presser) but doesnt mean at that didnt go out another door. This was the same afternoon. Scene was cleared at 12pm per Captain Spann Suspect breached other doors within the building (like the rooms came out of #13 and went into the Sanctuary/Auditorium for sure)

My thinking now, since she was in Main Hallway (per Press conf) she was somewhere between bulletin board area back to the COME AS YOU ARE sign in main entrance. There is an area past the Bulletin board looks like little hall ? maybe in that area. Chief/Captain said murder was not caught on video. Motion did not cause the camera to activate so it wasn't recorded. So is that saying she was in an area that would have had been caught on video if the camera picked up the motion to activate camera? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNLtwTK2hq8&feature=youtu.be Start about 730 mark...... 915 no camera outside video , has one not functioning at time. Speaks of MB ...1147 mark know time entered building... MB walking down main hallway vicinity of where found her No evidence that Suspect went through any other door although glass was broken
JMHO

 

[Murrayforlife]

I personally would care. I'd be devastated by the infidelity (angry about it, for sure) but I don't know that it would negate every positive feeling I ever had toward my spouse. And while I would be hurt that he wasn't the *spouse* I thought he was, I would absolutely mourn the loss of my parenting partner and I would grieve that my children lost a good parent. (Unfaithful spouse doesn't necessarily mean bad parent.)

Sometimes bad behavior is part of an over all poor character. Sometimes it is symptom of something else (weakness, breakdown in the marriage) - not justifiable, but a possible explanation.

Great post! I concur 100%.

 

[TeaTime]

This was the start of a new camp - April 18th, so if there were new campers joining no one could be sure who would show up early besides Missy. Another CG trainer lead the group while she was in Austin so maybe Missy had walked him/her through the set up routine. Also last night, a WS'er familiar with the Church of Christ posted in thread 6, that it was very unusual for the church to allow a non-member to use the facilities for something like CG and that Missy may have had a connection with a church member. This is rumor only so hope it is ok to mention.

I thought I read that this camp was where the weights would be increased, like a Phase 2 of the program and in the event of rain, the group would work out under the church's awning rather than in the parking lot.. If so, we need to look at people who took the early morning class prior to this one as they would know that the church allowed Missy and maybe even her group to enter the facilities, unaccompanied by a church official. This perp knew Missy would enter the building. This perp saw the routine before, first hand. Maybe this person could barely handle the physicality of the last camp and could not possibly handle this next phase as his/her progress did not go as anticipated. Perhaps the perp expected miracles and put in little effort.

This perp may be one who was once physically fit but has experienced an injury or has aged and the expected change in physique didn't happen fast enough to continue to phase 2, is disappointed and feels cheated, hopeless, betrayed? In other words, this person didn't become a "Gladiator" but rather was reminded with each workout of their limitations/shortcomings. This person didn't turn into a Missy, who had transformed herself with her devotion to physical fitness and a healthy lifestyle.

With some people, encouragement is akin to a promise and is often mistaken for deeper emotional connections. Needy people can not just disconnect from the one who has encouraged them to go beyond their present limitations, even if they put in no effort. They desire the positive attention.

Are we looking for a CG wash out? I think so.

 

[buddhanna]

OK, let's say you were out of town and your spouse was murdered. You had nothing to do with this crime. What would you do? Press conferences? Lawyer up? No Comment? I think about this and I can say that I truly don't know. Everybody always says to get legal advise, but if you have nothing to hide, why?

I don't know what I would do either. Except fall to pieces. And I would do that. MOO

 

[Murrayforlife]

OK, let's say you were out of town and your spouse was murdered. You had nothing to do with this crime. What would you do? Press conferences? Lawyer up? No Comment? I think about this and I can say that I truly don't know. Everybody always says to get legal advise, but if you have nothing to hide, why?

I would cry my eyeballs out, tell the press to get the blank outa my face, then when I could speak, hold a Liam Neeson news conference "I WILL find you........"

 

[liltexans]

OK, let's say you were out of town and your spouse was murdered. You had nothing to do with this crime. What would you do? Press conferences? Lawyer up? No Comment? I think about this and I can say that I truly don't know. Everybody always says to get legal advise, but if you have nothing to hide, why?

I have a sibling who is a defense attorney so I have a feeling I would be lawyered up whether I wanted to be or not. Defense attorneys believe that many people are wrongly accused of crimes, and, therefore, should always seek legal representation. I don't necessarily agree.

I have followed too many cases to think there's a normal way for a spouse to act. In one case I followed where the wife was murdered, the husband never spoke to the press and he turned out to be innocent. In another case, the husband would not stop talking, openly laughed out loud in interviews, and frankly, said really bizarre things, IMO. And he also turned out to be innocent in his wife's murder.

So I no longer presume there's a "normal" way to determine guilt or innocence of a spouse in many cases.

 

[flourish]

OK, let's say you were out of town and your spouse was murdered. You had nothing to do with this crime. What would you do? Press conferences? Lawyer up? No Comment? I think about this and I can say that I truly don't know. Everybody always says to get legal advise, but if you have nothing to hide, why?

Because innocent people get accused and convicted.

After being a member here, I can say I'd keep my mouth shut and lawyer up but also cooperate with the investigation, while grieving and likely refusing to leave my bed unless summoned by police or attending the funeral, etc.

On that note, I'm snuggling Mr flourish extra cuddly good tonight! Awww <3

 

[buddhanna]

I would cry my eyeballs out, tell the press to get the blank outa my face, then when I could speak, hold a Liam Neeson news conference "I WILL find you........"

good one...