TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016- # 9

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But, what if said person has multiple accounts in various social media (ie. FB personal acct, FB 'page' or business account, business website, Twitter, Instagram, etc) that many in his fitness circle post in? Wouldn't that theory fail if he had addressed her death with a photo in one of those accounts which garnered lots of views and comments? In this scenario, are you saying he's suspect because he doesn't also repost that photo in each and every one of those multiple accounts (expecting overlapping social followers to like and comment repeatedly)?

From what I've seen of these CG Trainers' pages, they promote promote promote their businesses. Posting about Missy being murdered while setting up for a class isn't going to bring in business. I don't think not mentioning Missy's murder is suspicious.
 
I see a head lamp. Under that, close set eyes big cheeks and flattish nose. Mouth covered by something black or dark colored.

First pic I've seen that looks definitively male and could even be African American.

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True....TT.....very true. Looks like a heavyset Hispanic, Mexican, Latino, or AA male perp.
 
To quote Hannibal Lecter, I think everything we need is at our disposal to solve this crime. I think looking very closely at FB pics, family pics(or abscence of certain people from pics) could be very telling IMO. I think the face pic highly resembles a woman. I think the perp could have been planning this a long, long time. Someone who totally disapproved of MB new lifestyle over past 2 yrs etc. Someone wanted to "erase" her from this family, permanently IMO. They had her schedule memorized and down to the minute. I think LE just trying to figure out anyone who may have helped this perp. I think arrest imminent. I think facial recognition nailed this perp along with circumstantial FB evidence. Good ole FB. It is. Good for something after all.

You bring up a valid point and one that has been on my mind. Can you tell me what her FB looks like in relation to her other family members? Did they appear to converse frequently, share photos, life etc..or was most of her FB of her, her children, CG and her husband sprinkled in? I get the feeling she was kind of a black sheep in the family (possibly because of what sounds like a devotion to fitness) but I may be wrong.

*I do not have Facebook so I am relying on the expert FB users here to give me an idea:scared:
 
1. Looks overweight (unless it's padding) but I think not. 2. If MB had turned up with someone else, or if a fellow camper turned up at the same time and offered to set up with her, what would he have done had she walked in with someone else? He was already inside then with the place wrecked. I'm sure he could NOT have over powered two people. SBM
Nice post. I only want to address these two points myself. 1. Media or LE said he is wearing a bulletproof vest which adds a lot of bulk.* IMO his pants are 2-3 sizes too big, stuffed pockets, BP-vests often have a lot of pockets that stick out in front for devices, ammo, etc. I mentally remove a lot of that gear and arrive at a fairly lean and wiry person. I even wonder if he wore a pair of sneakers inside some oversized boots. 2. IMO he might have abandoned his objective and fled. IMO he may have brought a gun with him but he might have chosen that as a weapon of last resort, such as to shoot a surprise person other than MB. (I am working off the hitman theory.) * "...The person was wearing a bulletproof vest with the word “POLICE” on both sides..." http://www.wfaa.com/news/crime/sources-police-believe-slain-midlothian-mom-was-targeted/154677542 9 threads of *shrug*
 
I just read Missy was in the church for 30 mins! is this true? If so that goes along with the burglary gone wrong scenario. Also, perp may have been bulked up from a bulletproof vest. Many churches in Texas have been robbed in last few years some for hundreds of thousands of dollars. Professional robbers would be wise to wear bulletproof vests and fake cop jackets in case they triggered alarms and the real cops showed up. Also weapons of death were professional burglar tools and things they found accessible at the church, probably knives from kitchen. Meaning if he was planning on killing someone he would have brought the right weapon, not panicked and bludgeoned her with a pry bar or hammer he brought there to pry open doors. And eventually have to finish the job with kitchen knives or whatever make-shift weapons the church had on hand. And If this guy was there solely to kill someone he wouldn't have waited 30 mins to do so especially knowing her students would soon be there.
Im still leaning towards this theory. The only fly in the ointment however, in my mind, is the fact that the friend/coworker said Missy hadn't been herself in the last few weeks, more preoccupied, withdrawn. I wonder if this was due to her husbands medical condition or if it was something else.

Timeline puts camper1 arriving 10-15 mins after Missy. So how is it possible that she set up class for 30 mins before being killed without anyone hearing or seeing anything? And why did camper wait 30 mins to call 911 after arriving at church??? If camper saw Missy's truck outside s/he should have immediately wondered where she was inside church, especially at that hour in the morning and still dark outside.
 
You bring up a valid point and one that has been on my mind. Can you tell me what her FB looks like in relation to her other family members? Did they appear to converse frequently, share photos, life etc..or was most of her FB of her, her children, CG and her husband sprinkled in? I get the feeling she was kind of a black sheep in the family (possibly because of what sounds like a devotion to fitness) but I may be wrong.

*I do not have Facebook so I am relying on the expert FB users here to give me an idea:scared:
MB Facebook was all american all the way. You can tell from looking that she loved her kids, loved fitness, attempted in every way to include and praise her husband. Tried to please her family and be everything to everybody. I think perhaps not everyone in the family felt this way about MB for whatever reasons. By looking at others FB pages it could IMO demonstrate a love for her kids but not MB. IMO this recent trip to Austin missing her daughters dance and her husbands surgery(and I am in no way saying that was bad, the trip was necessary for business) was the last straw for someone who had enough of MB new life. I have said I think the perp a woman. The facial recognition nailed this woman. Period. Just tying up loose ends. This is going to be a shocker IMO.
 
True....TT.....very true. Looks like a heavyset Hispanic, Mexican, Latino, or AA male perp.
ROFL We have a lot of opinions. I see a Caucasian, with a Caucasian nose that reflects a straight peak line down the center, eyes not close together, undetermined male or female, lean to normal size and shape. I thought this was a woman who sometimes tries to walk like a man, but I am leaning toward a young man who tries to sometimes walk like a female, and walk like a duck.
 
ROFL We have a lot of opinions. I see a Caucasian, with a Caucasian nose that reflects a straight peak line down the center, eyes not close together, undetermined male or female, lean to normal size and shape. I thought this was a woman who sometimes tries to walk like a man, but I am leaning toward a young man who tries to sometimes walk like a female, and walk like a duck.

There can be some confusion on the threads here because we have two up close facial images that have been posted.
One is the image that Sparky did a great job working on the face (and not the body but it shows a full length shot of the body). And then the other one is where a poster blew up a different pic of the face from a different angle. It's blurry & just the face/helmet/reflection only.

Which one are you talking about?

I wish Sparky could work his/her magic on the second image!!! Please!!
 
MB Facebook was all american all the way. You can tell from looking that she loved her kids, loved fitness, attempted in every way to include and praise her husband. Tried to please her family and be everything to everybody. I think perhaps not everyone in the family felt this way about MB for whatever reasons. By looking at others FB pages it could IMO demonstrate a love for her kids but not MB. IMO this recent trip to Austin missing her daughters dance and her husbands surgery(and I am in no way saying that was bad, the trip was necessary for business) was the last straw for someone who had enough of MB new life. I have said I think the perp a woman. The facial recognition nailed this woman. Period. Just tying up loose ends. This is going to be a shocker IMO.


Thank you! I, for one, think someone (not of the family) was intimidated, effected or bothered in some way by Missy within her "fitness" community. I think the umbrella of suspicion should definitely include CG participants past and present. IMO!
 
Does anyone else see thick eyebrows, as opposed to a plucked neat eyebrows in that image of Sparky's? I can even see freckles on the face just to the left of the perp's nose.

Unless I'm seeing what I want to see, then IMO - LE have to know who it is.

My tip went in on thread#1. Betcha there have been more since then. We just can't talk about the details. This is just a matter of opinion by me and not intended as anything more.

I saw thick eyebrows. I didn't look closely enough to see freckles.
 
If BB was involved, and he drove the rental car back to TX earlier than he claims with enough time to kill MB, and he reserved the car for a later time but picked it up earlier, he could have printed out the original reservation with the later pick-up time on it. I assume cops will check with the actually car rental pick up location to confirm it was him and what time car was actually picked up and that it is the same car he showed up with in TX. Is anyone familiar enough with the timeline to know if he'd even have enough time if he B-lined it back to TX by car as soon as his flight landed? I think so.
 
Thank you! I, for one, think someone (not of the family) was intimidated or bothered in some way by Missy's "fitness" lifestyle. I think the umbrella of suspicion should definitely include CG.

what does Murray mean by the facial recognition nailing it as a woman?
 
MB Facebook was all american all the way. You can tell from looking that she loved her kids, loved fitness, attempted in every way to include and praise her husband. Tried to please her family and be everything to everybody. I think perhaps not everyone in the family felt this way about MB for whatever reasons. By looking at others FB pages it could IMO demonstrate a love for her kids but not MB. IMO this recent trip to Austin missing her daughters dance and her husbands surgery(and I am in no way saying that was bad, the trip was necessary for business) was the last straw for someone who had enough of MB new life. I have said I think the perp a woman. The facial recognition nailed this woman. Period. Just tying up loose ends. This is going to be a shocker IMO.

I do not in any way think this woman was murdered because someone didn't think she was being a good enough wife and/or mother. Disapproving of someone's new "way of life" is not motive for murder in my opinion.
 
Who is CG? And what does Murray mean by the facial recognition nailing it as a woman?
CG = Camp Gladiator. Murray means the photo that mod Sparky reversed the color on which is in thread 8, page 17, post #243. The original photo is the third one here where the suspect seemingly looks directly at a security camera: http://content.wfaa.com/photo/2016/04/18/0418_mid_suspect01_1461015606656_1732910_ver1.0.jpg..... The other photo posted upthread is the same one, head only and enlarged many times.
 
Who is CG? And what does Murray mean by the facial recognition nailing it as a woman?

I was referring to Camp Gladiator participants. The are 2 recent facial photos that members here have been enhancing. I think Murray is referring to those.
 
If BB was involved, and he drove the rental car back to TX earlier than he claims with enough time to kill MB, and he reserved the car for a later time but picked it up earlier, he could have printed out the original reservation with the later pick-up time on it. I assume cops will check with the actually car rental pick up location to confirm it was him and what time car was actually picked up and that it is the same car he showed up with in TX. Is anyone familiar enough with the timeline to know if he'd even have enough time if he B-lined it back to TX by car as soon as his flight landed? I think so.

I preface this by saying I am not indicating BB was involved but to your point here I am a little confused as I thought BB flew to Biloxi the day before for the fishing trip. Perhaps he rented the car when he landed and already had possession of it when he got the news on Monday morning? If that is the case his rental records should show a Sunday pick up. Don't know about Biloxi but most airports I travel to have a pick up time put into the system when you check the car out. I think it would be pretty hard to fudge that and override the systems of Avis, Hertz etc
 
I was referring to Camp Gladiator participants. The are 2 recent facial photos that members here have been enhancing. I think Murray is referring to those.
If Sparky here, and others on other sites, have produced a decent photo. Can you imagine the high res job the Feds have got? Pair that with the world's best profilers and a ton on FB info and probably other phone info, interview info from both sides of family, and countless tips. IMO this person id'd early. Is under massive surveillance while the police build their case. I expect an arrest shortly and IMO it will be shocking.
 
If Sparky here, and others on other sites, have produced a decent photo. Can you imagine the high res job the Feds have got? Pair that with the world's best profilers and a ton on FB info and probably other phone info, interview info from both sides of family, and countless tips. IMO this person id'd early. Is under massive surveillance while the police build their case. I expect an arrest shortly and IMO it will be shocking.

Shocking would be someone who knew and at one point was close to MB.
- family (close & distant)
- friends of MB and/or family
- business acquaintances of MB or family
- stalker (either known to MB or unknown) - even potentially a social media creeper/stalker
- tangled love web participants
- serial killer of which maybe this is the first

Is this the full universe of potential "targeted" killers?
 
Thank you! I, for one, think someone (not of the family) was intimidated, effected or bothered in some way by Missy within her "fitness" community. I think the umbrella of suspicion should definitely include CG participants past and present. IMO!

Yes. Either CG family or her own. IMO has to be someone who knew her schedule to plan out what they thought was perfect murder. Cannot believe after all the trouble with the outfit, showed their face. That to me shows wasn't a pro. A pro would have double tapped her to the head outside. IMO
 
If BB was involved, and he drove the rental car back to TX earlier than he claims with enough time to kill MB, and he reserved the car for a later time but picked it up earlier, he could have printed out the original reservation with the later pick-up time on it. I assume cops will check with the actually car rental pick up location to confirm it was him and what time car was actually picked up and that it is the same car he showed up with in TX. Is anyone familiar enough with the timeline to know if he'd even have enough time if he B-lined it back to TX by car as soon as his flight landed? I think so.

IIRC, BB was not alone on his fishing trip even though again, IIRC, his companion(s) have not spoken publicly. I would think if BB had any unaccounted for time, his fishing friend(s) should have reported it directly to LE.
 
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