TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 April 2016 #4

[U2forever]

I have a couple of days off and got caught up. I took my dog out for a lovely walk on a sunny spring day. It was even more special since the girl had eye surgery last month and she was taking lots of time looking and sniffing at everything, and I do mean lots of time. We got home and I logged in and boom! So much catching up again. Websleuth members are amazing. We all want the same thing, although our approaches may be different, and that is justice for the victim.

Jackeee, how wonderful your friend can see better and has found a whole new beautiful, bright world. :loveyou:

This thread is amazing and fast. The Teresa Sievers threads are pretty amazing too.
Justice, that's what it's all about.

 

[U2forever]

Some folks have requests. Make it look like a car jacking. Make it look like a accident. Make it look like a mugging gone bad. Make it look like a interrupted burglary. Make it look like a drug deal gone wrong. Etc etc.

But the unseen videos is obviously telling them that she was targeted.

Jmo. They are now letting the perp or perps know that interrupted burglary theory is now out the window and the warrants will be served shortly.

Bam! Exactly what I was thinking from day one.

 

[KaaBoom]

Is there some reason why you are ignoring LE being asked about sabotage and said they hadn't confirmed whether it happened or not? 'Sabotage' was expressly asked about by the media and expressly answered by LE in response to LE saying there was technological issues, so perhaps you just didn't watch enough of it, so you missed that.

I'm not ignoring it. I don’t think it is important. They give that exact same answer to a lot of questions that they don’t know the answer to, or don’t want to answer. Anyway he had already answered the question, that some of the cameras activated and some didn’t.

Security camera systems are designed to not be easily tampered with. Otherwise they would be pretty useless.

 

[Jackeee]

The suspect only looks like a man there to burgle when they speed up the video.

But it does seem like a nonchalant female when the video is played at regular speed.

I've watched the videos many times. When I watched the perp cross the hallway I saw a pregnant female. When I saw the perp (I dislike that short form), open the Dutch door, I thought it was a male, but only because I thought it was a man thing (no offence) to just open a door and leave it open. I read later that leaving doors open was 'clearing' the room. I've learned so much here.

 

[YamBunny]

Watching the parts of the video we've gotten, they seem too casual to be a burglar. Although it does seem odd that they would cause so much damage for just one person.
To me it does look like a woman, with the gear making them look bigger. Also I feel like the distinctive walk would've slowed them down, and wouldn't have really been needed if it was just a burglary (if the walk was faked).

 

[K.jill]

I think its a woman who is mentally ill.
Maybe we will find out who she is soon.
I am sure they know who it is and are waiting on lab reports and phone data.
Just a matter of time.

 

[Eloise]

To me it makes no sense that this could be anything other then a burglary. I can’t imagine why someone would do that much damage to a church, just to kill one person. There would be so many easier ways of killing her.

Dunno, seems pretty successful. They got the job done and over a week later still no suspects (that we know of anyway) or arrests.

 

[KaaBoom]

Not that it happened, but wires cut intentionally, for example, would certainly cause technological issues. JMO

But it’s not that easy. More then likely the wires for that system were installed when the building was built. To cut the wires the suspect would have had to get a ladder, and start tearing down the ceiling panels to get at the wires. Even that wouldn’t disable the system. Take a look that this video. These cops thought, they had disable the security camera system during a raid, before they started to consume the evidence.

[video=youtube;wCa-CzoH-xU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCa-CzoH-xU[/video]

 

[whonos]

MesquiteO21, I've been feeling the same way. What I find interesting is the man's statements he made which were quite contradictory.

Reporter: “She posted on her FB that she was gonna be there, ... “
Husband: “Times and schedules are pre-determined, it definitely sets up an opportunity for the unknown to happen.”
-and shortly thereafter-
Reporter: “So you don’t think she was targeted?"
Husband: “It’s strictly my opinion, I don’t think she was targeted.”

Now, I'm not accusing anyone either, but the above conversation actually happened, that is a fact. It is in the public record. And I have a problem with his statements.

I just listened/watched the video again, (in the driveway in front of their house? With Missy's demented killer loose? Very Brave)
and Mr. Bevers says, when talking about Missy's commitment to physical fitness, between 7 minutes, 50 seconds and 8 minutes, "and for a forty some odd year old mother of three..."
As if he does not know her age, beyond "forty some odd".

I am not inferring anything here except to agree that some of what he says makes no sense. To me, anyway. I always knew my former husband's age, kind of like I know my own age. I know how old my friends are, someone is 2 years younger, another is one year older, etc. Maybe this is showing how upset he is? Or is it common to not know the age of your spouse?
I thought it was very nice that he wanted to contact the campers in that morning class and express his appreciation. I would be at their house grilling them on every last detail. What cars did you pass going to the class, make and model, on and on. Like we are doing here on Websleuths.
(My spell check keeps correcting Websleuths to Webseluths. Nothing makes sense.)

 

[KaaBoom]

Interesting Indeed. He also said the perp was six-feet tall. Didn't we figure out the perp was 5'6" to 5'8" max compared to the door frames in the video?

The perp is way too overweight (even with padding) to pull off being a real cop.

I can’t find it now, but I believe that it already been reported that the suspect was about 5’ 9”.

 

[lawbelle]

Are many convinced this was a botched robbery? I don't think so. I have been reading all day and finally had to skip ahead to post a thought that I had. In thread #2, someone here had posted how they noticed how methodically the killer was sweeping the outer rooms, on the side of the building that was opened and where Missy would soon be parked. Others have posted about how the breaking of glass was a random staging of a burglary. I don't know if anyone posted this idea in the past 30 pages I jumped, but I think the killer was intentionally opening every unlocked door, intentionally breaking every window of the "unlocked" doors. The killer even gave up on the doors he/she couldn't pry open. The killer knew if he/she couldn't pry it open, Missy wasn't getting in there either. I think the killer was planning in case Missy escaped him/her. If the killer opened every single unlocked door, the killer would know which room Missy was hiding in. The killer also broke the glass on every window to make certain Missy couldn't lock the door behind her. Very sinister and seems it's straight out of a horror movie. There was no way she was getting away from this monster. This person was not looking for items to steal and was carefully planning in case things went awry. IMO.

newbie here- longtime reader of websleuths, looking forward to contributing-
those are all good reasons for breaking the glass and opening doors- another reason would be to make certain no one else was already in the church (witnesses). This may have had as much to do with the bizarre costume as anything else- perhaps the killer intended to pose as LE should he/she be confronted with another individual inside the church.
Another potential reason would be that the killer thought someone was meeting Missy before class- suspected an affair. To be clear, I am not disparaging the victim in this case or suggesting she WAS having an affair. Only pointing out that it is possible that our murderer could be a jealous spurned vengeful determined killer.
And a quick question- perhaps it has been answered and I missed it: Since I read that Missy was moving her equipment indoors due to rain, how is it that the murderer would have expected her to be indoors? Did the murderer have some notion that Missy was arriving early and going into the church with regularity, or does this actually lend more credence to the theory that Missy was not an intended target but rather in the wrong place at the wrong time?

another quick question for those who may have the answer: What was the health crisis that her husband had been unfortunately dealing with? And did this health crisis/issue have anything to do with why he stated that she always texted him with love and wishes for his day "every single day for the last ten months." Has anyone addressed WHY this was something new?

 

[verbonica]

I just listened/watched the video again, (in the driveway in front of their house? With Missy's demented killer loose? Very Brave)
and Mr. Bevers says, when talking about Missy's commitment to physical fitness, between 7 minutes, 50 seconds and 8 minutes, "and for a forty some odd year old mother of three..."
As if he does not know her age, beyond "forty some odd".

I am not inferring anything here except to agree that some of what he says makes no sense. To me, anyway. I always knew my former husband's age, kind of like I know my own age. I know how old my friends are, someone is 2 years younger, another is one year older, etc. Maybe this is showing how upset he is? Or is it common to not know the age of your spouse?
I thought it was very nice that he wanted to contact the campers in that morning class and express his appreciation. I would be at their house grilling them on every last detail. What cars did you pass going to the class, make and model, on and on. Like we are doing here on Websleuths.
(My spell check keeps correcting Websleuths to Webseluths. Nothing makes sense.)

I had a moment's pause at that, but I think he was fumbling for her age when she started this new career a few years ago.

 

[ocgrad]

I’m still convinced this was a blotched robbery, based on the evidence I have heard so far. Even in light of the recent statements from the LE to the contrary. I hope the investigators have very good evidence to believe that this was a staged event. Because if they don’t, I think they are barking up the wrong tree.

To me it makes no sense that this could be anything other then a burglary. I can’t imagine why someone would do that much damage to a church, just to kill one person. There would be so many easier ways of killing her.

I originally thought this was either a botched burglary or a political statement gone bad. But when I think about them having the lights on I think they dressed so as to really play LEO and gain her trust, plus the statements of targeting from LE, I feel it was someone there to murder her. But not just murder, this person had some to say to Missy, that they had to hide their identity so they could get close enough to be able to say whatever it was. Dressing like LE is often done to gain trust. I think you do that because you want to say something or you want something from the process. Many people have posted that If you just want to kill there are many easier ways. But they wanted to tell her why they were doing this, but she would have known them and not trusted them. And since they had to be there they needed to set up a fake burglary so they wouldn't be suspected.

 

[KaaBoom]

Dunno, seems pretty successful. They got the job done and over a week later still no suspects (that we know of anyway) or arrests.

They also left a lot of evidence. Whereas a drive by shooting would have left no evidence. One hour of heavy manual labor busting down doors while being recorded by security cameras vs a 10 second drive by shooting leaving zero evidence. Does that really make sense?

 

[lawbelle]

One more question (sorry, newbie slamming with several queries): Does anyone here have military experience in an urban setting? Perhaps my theory is based only on fictionalized accounts (movies), but the method and organized way that the killer moves through the building, "clearing it" and breaking windows on the doors seems to be militaristic. Am I wrong about this?

Also- While waiting for approval of my registration I lost my place (and the post I intended to quote), but there was a discussion of frustration with somewhat vague and/or conflicting messaging by LE and the prosecutor. In my past experience working in that capacity I learned that often this is a tactic designed to confuse or intimidate the suspect/perp. To "smoke out" someone that they may already be watching, or to attract the attention of them in some way to elicit a certain response.

 

[lawbelle]

I had a moment's pause at that, but I think he was fumbling for her age when she started this new career a few years ago.

Yes, OR he almost said her age and thought better of it out of respect for her wishes- perhaps she was someone who never told her age (or fudged it like many of us do)

 

[Jackeee]

Jackeee, how wonderful your friend can see better and has found a whole new beautiful, bright world. :loveyou:

This thread is amazing and fast. The Teresa Sievers threads are pretty amazing too.
Justice, that's what it's all about.

Thank you U2forever. My dog is 11 years old and we've been through a lot together.

 

[Eloise]

They also left a lot of evidence. Whereas a drive by shooting would have left no evidence. One hour of heavy manual labor busting down doors while being recorded by security cameras vs a 10 second drive by shooting leaving zero evidence. Does that really make sense?

They've had eight days to leave the country unrecognized by anyone - won't matter how much evidence they left behind, if they're now in a country that has no extradition treaty with the US. That's occurred to me at least once in the past few days I have to say. I think the most important thing to them was that nobody could tell who they were, giving them ample time to get away, and that they didn't leave any DNA or fingerprints that could be quickly analyzed. The rest is probably irrelevant.

But it doesn't really matter if you or anyone else thinks its a burglary and give whatever reasons you think that. The police have said Missy was targeted.

Sources tell News 8 that investigators are certain that Bevers was the target, and did not stumble into a burglary gone bad. They further believe that the scene was staged to make it look like there had been a burglary.
They also say investigators have subpoenaed records from nearby cell towers. Those subpoenas could yield hundreds of cell phone numbers, making combing through those records a bit like looking for a needle in the haystack.
Midlothian police are receiving help from the Texas Rangers, the ATF, and the FBI, who are providing critical case-tracking technology.

http://www.wfaa.com/news/crime/sources-police-believe-slain-midlothian-mom-was-targeted/154677542

ETA my own theory is that the motive was 100% personal, but it was a hired hit. I think the person who hired the hit probably believes there is nothing to connect him or her to the hitman. MOO JMO etc etc.

 

[U2forever]

I just listened/watched the video again, (in the driveway in front of their house? With Missy's demented killer loose? Very Brave)
and Mr. Bevers says, when talking about Missy's commitment to physical fitness, between 7 minutes, 50 seconds and 8 minutes, "and for a forty some odd year old mother of three..."
As if he does not know her age, beyond "forty some odd".

I am not inferring anything here except to agree that some of what he says makes no sense. To me, anyway. I always knew my former husband's age, kind of like I know my own age. I know how old my friends are, someone is 2 years younger, another is one year older, etc. Maybe this is showing how upset he is? Or is it common to not know the age of your spouse?
I thought it was very nice that he wanted to contact the campers in that morning class and express his appreciation. I would be at their house grilling them on every last detail. What cars did you pass going to the class, make and model, on and on. Like we are doing here on Websleuths.
(My spell check keeps correcting Websleuths to Webseluths. Nothing makes sense.)

I can rattle off my husbands age and birth date with out hesitation, just like I did 3 days ago.

<modsnip> and with that I'm...fftobed:

 

[lawbelle]

The choice of weapon is very important when profiling this killer. Statistics show that men are more likely to use weapons such as guns or knives, where women are more likely to use a blunt object. A lot of significance has been placed on the gait and somewhat "feminine" build of this murderer, but that is a generalization that may or may not hold importance. If the killer has an old injury or medical condition this could merely be a way to identify them individually rather than by gender. The way the killer breaks glass on doors, etc..., actually seems more like the work of a man. If Missy was a target, this was well thought out and planned- another potential reason for the helmet might be to protect against glass cutting the face or head.