TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers, 45, murdered in church/suspect in SWAT gear, 18 Apr 2016 #36

[coastal]

Let's just say it all happened the way you said. In that case, the killer would be completely shocked and most likely out of his or her mind for a long time, perhaps for life. No peace of mind left! Someone may have noticed that kind of behavior, a family member, co-worker ( the killer most likely took some time off all of a sudden or even quit the job), a friend, a neighbor, a bartender (..). Perhaps someone is considering right now to do the right thing and to pick up that phone. I mean it.

-Nin

I agree. I can't imagine someone who commits this kind of violence slipping unknown into the night, never to be seen again. Wouldn't it show on them, somewhere in their life?

 

[Razz]

What person in their right mind would go out on a very stormy Monday morning? Why did it happen then? Or is it because that was the expected date and it had to happen that particular Monday mornimg. Was it done then so certain people wouldn't be blamed for the murder because that particular day and night he/she had an airtight alibi?

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[WannaBDetective]

What is a "fighter"?


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Mixed Martial Arts (MMA). The guys who climb into the octagon and fight an opponent until they submit or are deemed to be rendered incapable of defending themselves.

 

[DeDee]

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Hypothetically, MB was ambushed soon upon entering the building and near the bathrooms at her entry point into the building as per her usual. This position allows the SP an ability to rinse or clean somewhat for I cannot understand MB suffering multiple puncture wounds to two vital areas and it not being very bloody, thereby leaving spatter on the floor and possibly the walls and the SP mask, gloves, and vest.

Stabbing someone to death is not a quick crime of murder unless MB was incapacitated quickly, by example, with a blow dart or two well-placed hits with the sharp rock pick, followed by the others to ensure death.

 

[DeDee]

The Getaway

LEO indicated the ability to see an indiscernible sliver of a parked car in the church parking lot in cctv footage. However, the best place to park with the least chance of being seen from the highway and front parking lot and the parking lot across from where MB parked is located on the far E side. How long does a search for owners of that yr Altima in M take? If the Altima was involved, it has been in and out of the chop shop by now.

Having a dependable, getaway vehicle was vital to success. Some suggest SP walked across 287 to reach a stowed vehicle; twice, if working alone, with impeccable timing in judging when crossing was safe. Probable? Is that how this SP would plan the clean getaway?

Not one in this camp; however, some nix the idea of a SUV due to possible muddy conditions even though K9s searched for firearms related products in that area of the grounds that appears to be consistent with limestone often with a layer of soil and grass. It would not be unusual to have a truck parked hidden on a road nearby with a trailer for the SUV nor would it be unusual to be seen driving a truck and trailer w/ SUV at any time of the day.

Have we become jaded by Occam's Razor and want the car to be the getaway vehicle as an easy escape? This is a complex crime that took much thought, careful consideration, meticulous planning and purchasing - not borrowing of equipment, specifically for this heinous murder.

Utilizing the airport is also an interesting idea. Noticed the airport buildings have cameras installed at various areas and corners. If the pilot does not intend to fly above a particular height or altitude, filing a flight plan is not necessary. Admittedly, the flight weather conditions have not been researched for a 6am morning departure from M.

 

[DeDee]

Or a highly trained fighter. Is there one of those on the SW list?

You are asking a question although you know the answer. Lawyers have a tendency to do that, too.

From the SW, CW is a fighter. He also has a distinct walk. The question is what would be the motive to kill? An affair? Nah. LEO did not divulge any disgruntlement between the two. Besides, CW adores attractive women. That mentioned, he definitely held the upper hand, if involved. JMO, SP did not act cocky enough to be CW who carries himself well with proper posture and without ballet stances.

 

[WannaBDetective]

You are asking a question although you know the answer. Lawyers have a tendency to do that, too.

From the SW, CW is a fighter. He also has a distinct walk. The question is what would be the motive to kill? An affair? Nah. LEO did not divulge any disgruntlement between the two. Besides, CW adores attractive women. That mentioned, he definitely held the upper hand, if involved. JMO, SP did not act cocky enough to be CW who carries himself well with proper posture and without ballet stances.

I agree. In fact I have had trouble reconciling the kind of awkward meandering we see on video with the rather quick and efficient dismantling of a fit, buff and somewhat trained victim. That’s where gun theory could come in. But it was indicated that there was astruggle, so immediate incapacitation doesn’t fit that. Several have mentioned SP looking intoxicated at different points in the video. I’ve seen mildly intoxicated people be a bit tipsy but when a need arose to be on full alert, they were quite physically functional.

The onlydetails we have on their relationship is that it had been going on since at least January, involved sexting and there were plans in the making to physically meet up. Did she pull away? Did he feel his marriage was threatened? We don’t know. My guess is not. I think the fear/change in disposition she showed in the weeks prior to her death are a clue that SHE felt a threat comingfrom somewhere. And I don’t think that manifested itself without some sort of trail (text, conversation, phone call,e-mail, meet-up, etc.)

 

[Cannonball3804]

The Getaway

LEO indicated the ability to see an indiscernible sliver of a parked car in the church parking lot in cctv footage. However, the best place to park with the least chance of being seen from the highway and front parking lot and the parking lot across from where MB parked is located on the far E side. How long does a search for owners of that yr Altima in M take? If the Altima was involved, it has been in and out of the chop shop by now.

Having a dependable, getaway vehicle was vital to success. Some suggest SP walked across 287 to reach a stowed vehicle; twice, if working alone, with impeccable timing in judging when crossing was safe. Probable? Is that how this SP would plan the clean getaway?

Not one in this camp; however, some nix the idea of a SUV due to possible muddy conditions even though K9s searched for firearms related products in that area of the grounds that appears to be consistent with limestone often with a layer of soil and grass. It would not be unusual to have a truck parked hidden on a road nearby with a trailer for the SUV nor would it be unusual to be seen driving a truck and trailer w/ SUV at any time of the day.

Have we become jaded by Occam's Razor and want the car to be the getaway vehicle as an easy escape? This is a complex crime that took much thought, careful consideration, meticulous planning and purchasing - not borrowing of equipment, specifically for this heinous murder.

Utilizing the airport is also an interesting idea. Noticed the airport buildings have cameras installed at various areas and corners. If the pilot does not intend to fly above a particular height or altitude, filing a flight plan is not necessary. Admittedly, the flight weather conditions have not been researched for a 6am morning departure from M.

Serial killer Todd Kohlhepp, recently arrested in SC but originally from AZ, is a licensed pilot. I would need to find some kind of connection to TEXAS and that specific area before I go further down that road.


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[Razz]

I agree. In fact I have had trouble reconciling the kind of awkward meandering we see on video with the rather quick and efficient dismantling of a fit, buff and somewhat trained victim. That’s where gun theory could come in. But it was indicated that there was astruggle, so immediate incapacitation doesn’t fit that. Several have mentioned SP looking intoxicated at different points in the video. I’ve seen mildly intoxicated people be a bit tipsy but when a need arose to be on full alert, they were quite physically functional.

The onlydetails we have on their relationship is that it had been going on since at least January, involved sexting and there were plans in the making to physically meet up. Did she pull away? Did he feel his marriage was threatened? We don’t know. My guess is not. I think the fear/change in disposition she showed in the weeks prior to her death are a clue that SHE felt a threat comingfrom somewhere. And I don’t think that manifested itself without some sort of trail (text, conversation, phone call,e-mail, meet-up, etc.)

My recollection was: She had an affair 1 1/2 years ago ((I do not know with whom) and then she and BB reconciled? So was there actually a reconciliation? How would BB know about CW unless that was the affair she had a year and a half ago. This is very unclear and murky.

Does anyone know the timeline on when she and CW were texting? If it was recent and BB knew about it....
Then why was she sending BB "I love yous" every day?

I'm missing something here. Can anyone help out?

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[Cannonball3804]

According to the probable cause affidavit in support of the search warrant for BB's FB account, BB told investigators that MB was having an affair with KC:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/l0tz2ms6kjsjndf/Brandon%20Bevers%20search%20warrant.pdf?dl=0

And just to be clear, this is an allegation that BB made, which was used by LE in obtaining the search warrant. It isn't proof that MB was having an affair with KC just because BB said she was.

 

[Razz]

According to the probable cause affidavit in support of the search warrant for BB's FB account, BB told investigators that MB was having an affair with KC:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/l0tz2ms6kjsjndf/Brandon%20Bevers%20search%20warrant.pdf?dl=0

And just to be clear, this is an allegation that BB made, which was used by LE in obtaining the search warrant. It isn't proof that MB was having an affair with KC just because BB said she was.

I'll have to download the Dropbox app. But I thought we had just recently discussed that BB gave investigators CW' s name! So it was KC' s name only?!

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[ezrah]

My recollection was: She had an affair 1 1/2 years ago ((I do not know with whom) and then she and BB reconciled? So was there actually a reconciliation? How would BB know about CW unless that was the affair she had a year and a half ago. This is very unclear and murky.

Does anyone know the timeline on when she and CW were texting? If it was recent and BB knew about it....
Then why was she sending BB "I love yous" every day?

I'm missing something here. Can anyone help out?

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All speculation but possibly open marriage arrangement, reconciliation was not going well, reconciled for convenience such as for the children, financial reasons etc..


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[ezrah]

I'll have to download the Dropbox app. But I thought we had just recently discussed that BB gave investigators CW' s name! So it was KC' s name only?!

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CW too.

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[Cannonball3804]

I'll have to download the Dropbox app. But I thought we had just recently discussed that BB gave investigators CW' s name! So it was KC' s name only?!

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I don't think you have to download the Dropbox app in order to click on the link and view the PDF. Could be wrong, though.

It was BB who told LE about CW as evidenced in the other search warrant, the one for MB's FB:

 

[CoverMeCagney]

I don't think you have to download the Dropbox app in order to click on the link and view the PDF. Could be wrong, though.

It was BB who told LE about CW as evidenced in the other search warrant, the one for MB's FB:

I didn't have to download dropbox, it gave me an option to continue viewing without registering.

So.... been off thread a while, did we know about the alleged fling with KC?

 

[Cannonball3804]

So.... been off thread a while, did we know about the alleged fling with KC?

No. You'll recall there were two FB warrants, one for MB and one for BB. The one for MB only mentioned CW.

The only previous mention of KC was the SW at the beginning of the investigation that sought the phone records for a group of people including KC.

It was in July that LE released the unsealed search warrants for the two FB accounts. But they released them without including the probable cause affidavits.

When MPD was asked under the Open Records Act for the probable cause affidavits for both, they provided two documents. But the two were identical - each document was the SW and affidavit for MB. They omitted, whether on purpose or through error, the document for BB.

So this was pointed out to MPD, and they provided the requested affidavit at that time. That took place 2-1/2 months ago. The BB affidavit is being made public today only because no one else was reporting on it.


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[Amateurpi1]

No. You'll recall there were two FB warrants, one for MB and one for BB. The one for MB only mentioned CW.

The only previous mention of KC was the SW at the beginning of the investigation that sought the phone records for a group of people including KC.


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Ok, I’m confused now. There was another SW with KC’s name re: an affair? How was it overlooked until now? Or was it released much later than the others? Anyway, good job on whoever found it. Thanks.

 

[Cannonball3804]

Ok, I’m confused now. There was another SW with KC’s name re: an affair? How was it overlooked until now? Or was it released much later than the others? Anyway, good job on whoever found it. Thanks.

I updated my post that you quoted, with additional info.


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[Amateurpi1]

I updated my post that you quoted, with additional info.


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Thank you. Very interesting info!

 

[Razz]

No. You'll recall there were two FB warrants, one for MB and one for BB. The one for MB only mentioned CW.

The only previous mention of KC was the SW at the beginning of the investigation that sought the phone records for a group of people including KC.

It was in July that LE released the unsealed search warrants for the two FB accounts. But they released them without including the probable cause affidavits.

When MPD was asked under the Open Records Act for the probable cause affidavits for both, they provided two documents. But the two were identical - each document was the SW and affidavit for MB. They omitted, whether on purpose or through error, the document for BB.

So this was pointed out to MPD, and they provided the requested affidavit at that time. That took place 2-1/2 months ago. The BB affidavit is being made public today only because no one else was reporting on it.


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Oh my. So, who gave police AT and CT's name?!

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