UID Victim: The Asian Male, UP9355, John Doe #8, poss. died 1996-2001, found Gilgo Beach Apr 2011

[Evey]

CD= Crossdresser

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Oh ok yea we have those they'd get beat up if the John discovered she wasn't a girl

 

[Evey]

Yes CD cross dresser. You have pimps in America who are cracking down on independent escorting. Either with beatings or worse. I don't think chopping people up is their thing though. Rifling says he didn't do the early ones, but driving around with bodies is very him. Maybe someone started off copy catting him. Either way, I think there are two overlapping and one could be a pimp. It's someone who lives nearby only someone like this would know the bodies haven't been found and they could continue to return to the place to bury without a trap being set. Maybe someone who could view the beach area.

I think your friend would be a big help but She would want to be careful and not take any work down there. There is a good chance it is something the police gave not tried. Hiring a person who knows the streets


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Yea she said pimps try to make girls think it'll benefit them and give them drugs and nice clothes. She hadn't some post awhile back how she had encountered the Kensington ripper back in the day so I struck up a convo with her since she helps girls I never vegas slmetimes a copy cat killer is there so I warned her about LISK and said she should tell them about him as far as New York ones go and we agreed girls likely know about a killer being out there but getting drug money is very important. I wondering if Israel keyes killed any of them. Rifkin I could see doing it but not wanting to admit it is odd cause why hide it now? A pimp and drug duo like Burke and yhe doctor would be weird but wouldn't surprise me

 

[Armchair-reader]

How credible is this, does anyone know?

http://unidentified.wikia.com/wiki/Gilgo_Beach_Doe

 

[scotiansleuth]

How credible is this, does anyone know?

http://unidentified.wikia.com/wiki/Gilgo_Beach_Doe

What's the difference between the wikia account and everything on here and NamUs?

 

[Armchair-reader]

How credible is this, does anyone know?

http://unidentified.wikia.com/wiki/Gilgo_Beach_Doe

If it is credible I would like to submit this poor soul unless everyone thinks it such a long shot it would be wasting the networks time. I think Mo is the right guy but in the mean time we keep searching.

 

[scotiansleuth]

If it is credible I would like to submit this poor soul unless everyone thinks it such a long shot it would be wasting the networks time. I think Mo is the right guy but in the mean time we keep searching.

From what I have read LE looked at Mo but can't determine if he's the Doe or not because they do not have Mo's DNA.

 

[BigCityAccountant]

If it is credible I would like to submit this poor soul unless everyone thinks it such a long shot it would be wasting the networks time. I think Mo is the right guy but in the mean time we keep searching.

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Mo Zheng was submitted by Carl90245 back on 09/20/2011. If you watched the documentary, Carl90245 was the guy that was featured doing the overlay of Asian male against Mo Zheng's picture. I can't remember what the disposition of that was, gosh I'm getting old. Anyway I thought it was because his family is back in China and they couldn't get a DNA sample from the family, but I could be wrong.

 

[scotiansleuth]

It's on page 1 of this forum, Carl the UID Moderator submitted Mo.

 

[Armchair-reader]

What's the difference between the wikia account and everything on here and NamUs?

Postmortem interval 5 - 10 years

Gilgo Beach Doe, locally known as "John Doe #8" or "Asian Male" was a possible victim of the Long Island Serial Killer. The victim was assigned male at birth but the gender is unknown, as the remains were found in women's clothing

 

[Armchair-reader]

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Mo Zheng was submitted by Carl90245 back on 09/20/2011. If you watched the documentary, Carl90245 was the guy that was featured doing the overlay of Asian male against Mo Zheng's picture. I can't remember what the disposition of that was, gosh I'm getting old. Anyway I thought it was because his family is back in China and they couldn't get a DNA sample from the family, but I could be wrong.

Yeah I think it is Mo. On WS forum I is gives 5 years post mortem. Wiki gave 5-10. Then added the unknown gender info. That's why I was asking

 

[coffeeandacig]

Is there a missing persons website for foreign nationals in America or Asian nationals, or maybe embassy links? Something which would allow the transfer of information. Finding the actual nationality of the person would really help. Maybe the Asian community have a missing persons wall.


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All I can find is for Interpol... https://www.interpol.int/notice/search/missing
and countries where human trafficking is rampant like Thailand, Cambodia have nothing listed.

 

[Sherlockknows]

Hey Everyone,

THANK YOU for all the hard work and dedication you put into finding the identity of the unidentified murder victims.

If we can identify Asian Male it would be a HUGE break in the case and it would show law enforcement just how good you all truly are at this kind of sleuthing.


My question to you is this; What do you need from me to help you identify Asian Male or any of the other victims.

Is there software Websleuths can purchase? Is there a pay website that would help.

I am in awe of what you do and how you sleuth and I hope I can add something to help you in this quest.

Please post here or email me at triciastruecrimeradio@gmail.com

Just one other thing. I am not use if it's possible. Has a mould ever been made of the faces of the unamed missing? I say this because this is a great tool to finding relatives. The reconstruction of a face.


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[Sherlockknows]

Yea she said pimps try to make girls think it'll benefit them and give them drugs and nice clothes. She hadn't some post awhile back how she had encountered the Kensington ripper back in the day so I struck up a convo with her since she helps girls I never vegas slmetimes a copy cat killer is there so I warned her about LISK and said she should tell them about him as far as New York ones go and we agreed girls likely know about a killer being out there but getting drug money is very important. I wondering if Israel keyes killed any of them. Rifkin I could see doing it but not wanting to admit it is odd cause why hide it now? A pimp and drug duo like Burke and yhe doctor would be weird but wouldn't surprise me

Rifkin is clever, and might not want to be associated with a dead child. He is in prison after all.

Then the four others including Asian Male could be a disgruntled Pimp making it seem like a serial killer, chopping up the bodies because all the markings lead to one man, someone they are all afraid of....


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[Hotpotato]

Rifkin was caught in June of 1993. I'm confused why he's often suggested to be the killer of some. Unless timelines and forensics were WAAAAAAAY off he had been in jail long before the lisk victims.

 

[Sherlockknows]

All I can find is for Interpol... https://www.interpol.int/notice/search/missing
and countries where human trafficking is rampant like Thailand, Cambodia have nothing listed.

I wonder if the Asian lady, found on the beach was related in any way to the young Asian man, maybe an older sister who linked her brother and a man. Phone records of hers if she was identified might reveal something. Interesting if both records led to a single number....


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[Tricia]

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Hi Tricia! :seeya:

Not sure if this is feasible or not, but a program that would allow for an overlay between a sketch of a UID and MP like Carl uses would be fantastic. Like I said, not sure if it is feasible or not~~but would certainly help! We all love Carl's work, but he can't be everywhere at once. :loveyou:

If I knew where to find something like this I would buy it for everyone no problem.

Are there any other programs that are already out there that could help you?

 

[dexter75]

Rifkin was caught in June of 1993. I'm confused why he's often suggested to be the killer of some. Unless timelines and forensics were WAAAAAAAY off he had been in jail long before the lisk victims.

Agree

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[coffeeandacig]

Question... What area do you think Asian male was picked up in? Times Square NYC area like Maureen Brainard Barnes?

PS I fowarded this thread to a member of an organization that works with human trafficking victims in NYC. Hope to hear back soon.

 

[Sherlockknows]

If I knew where to find something like this I would buy it for everyone no problem.

Are there any other programs that are already out there that could help you?

It takes a while to open but maybe these people might be able to help in some way if they had something to work with?

http://ict.usc.edu/pubs/CREATING A PHOTOREAL DIGITAL ACTOR- THE DIGITAL EMILY PROJECT.pdf


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[Sherlockknows]

Question... What area do you think Asian male was picked up in? Times Square NYC area like Maureen Brainard Barnes?

PS I fowarded this thread to a member of an organization that works with human trafficking victims in NYC. Hope to hear back soon.

Good idea maybe you'll have some luck there. I think you are on to something. If he was a college student gone missing there would be a manhunt Facebook pages students messaging forums ect. This is someone who was under the radar but with a disability how could anyone miss him. Wonder if he used a wheelchair? Walking sticks?


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