UID Victim: The Asian Male, UP9355, John Doe #8, poss. died 1996-2001, found Gilgo Beach Apr 2011

[Evey]

Didn't rifkin also suggest a job related to clams?

 

[Sherlockknows]

I think that guy killed himself out of guilt of knowing he sold the killer burlap bags(maybe not knowing who exactly) or knowing he gave the killer some cause they were friends. But I also think we should look into other jobs that would have those. Maybe e had an idea who the killer was so the killer killed him making it seem like suicide or he killed himself knowing he couldn't turn the person in but felt immense guilt

Two guys, owning the same business, committing suicide with a year and a half of each other after the bags became known is a lot of guilt. Maybe they both knew him? Or were being blackmailed by them or him. Only bank accountants can tell you this.

The Cab associate can't be Burke unless in disguise. Too recognisable and his face has been everywhere right? Good chance these were two friends who's tab was being picked up, in fact maybe they were....


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[jacobd83]

PLEASE FORGIVE ME IF THIS PERSON HAS ALREADY BEEN POSTED....


http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/275dmca.html

 

[Evey]

Two guys, owning the same business, committing suicide with a year and a half of each other after the bags became known is a lot of guilt. Maybe they both knew him? Or were being blackmailed by them or him. Only bank accountants can tell you this.

The Cab associate can't be Burke unless in disguise. Too recognisable and his face has been everywhere right? Good chance these were two friends who's tab was being picked up, in fact maybe they were....


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My brain wondwrs if they unknowingly gave the killer burlap(who was the second dude who killed hinself?) and the killer told them if they tell he'd spill their secret and he killed them and made it seem like suicide or their guilt akd blame got to them. If the killer killed them that's a good cover making us focus on them ans nt someone else. The son of the neighbor in the Shannon Gilbert part who's story keeps changing is fishy to me. Cause this killer is evolving so maybe they started young and those are the chopped up ones but then he got lazy

 

[PictureSnatcher]

But one issue is wouldn't he be in normal clothes and not girls then? Less he was openly trans or killed in the theater during practice

..openly trans

 

[DaisyChains]

This has made me wonder if Asian John Doe was killed by the same person as Rashawn who was murdered in 2005:

http://pix11.com/2014/09/16/murder-...-was-found-in-subway-tunnel-remains-unsolved/

Could LISK have met Asian John Doe under the same circumstances in the same area? As I mentioned above, many at risk sex workers stroll around Manhattan and the Port Authority (same areas LISK called Amanda from).

 

[coffeeandacig]

PLEASE FORGIVE ME IF THIS PERSON HAS ALREADY BEEN POSTED....


http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/275dmca.html

Sorry, nope. This gentleman has been missing since 1984. It is likely that Asian Male wasn't even born yet in 1984.

PS...Who else wants LE to post pictures of Asian Male's clothing? What you wear tells a great deal about a person.

 

[PictureSnatcher]

the problem is SCPD already know Asian male is Tirrel Santiago. The question is, why don't they want him or anyone else identified? If they actually did, they'd release his clothing, not a generic drawing of Asian guy. How laughable is the sketch! It's more disinformation than anything else, since Tirrel isn't even Asian. It's the same reason they keep the baby's blanket hidden.

 

[dexter75]

Sorry, nope. This gentleman has been missing since 1984. It is likely that Asian Male wasn't even born yet in 1984.

PS...Who else wants LE to post pictures of Asian Male's clothing? What you wear tells a great deal about a person.

Yes!
I was surprised when looking over this case and NO pictures of the clothing were shown.

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[BigCityAccountant]

Has anyone thought about contact the LBGT community in and around New York to help identify Asian male?

 

[nedflanders1980]

Definitely thought about it, but its been so long its going to be so hard to find someone that would remember him. I did check and find one trans clothing FWIW. That's one of the reasons of wondered what exactly he was wearing. Was it trans clothes or not? I wonder if LE even knows.

 

[DaisyChains]

Yes, but by these same standards (and if victims race was approximated only by visual examination by ME) we could say that this young boy Edmond could also be the victim. Race many times is approximated by the shape of the nasal opening on the skull and the length of a bone that frames the ocular cavity.

http://www.nampn.org/cases/tillman_edmond.html

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/t/tillman_edmond.html

this 14 year old teenager was talking to older men online when he disappeared in 2005 out of Brooklyn. Edmond was pigeon toed and sometimes went by Deshawn (is that a gender neutral name?). Notice how his almond deep set eyes might look almost asian if he were just a skull? Rashawn, another young gay black male from Brooklyn who eventually was found dismembered, went missing the same year.

I want them to do isotope/genetic testing on this John Doe AND (as coofeeandacig brought up a few posts ago) I really want to see her clothing!

 

[jacobd83]

1. DANIEL LEE CHO-http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/4983dmca.html


2. JASON WAYNE DENNIS-http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/4744dmut.html


3. THOEUN PENG-http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/3623dmca.html


4. LONG MANH DUONG-http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/4298dmca.html


5. BINH CONG TA-http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/4631dmca.html

 

[Aslan]

the problem is SCPD already know Asian male is Tirrel Santiago. The question is, why don't they want him or anyone else identified? If they actually did, they'd release his clothing, not a generic drawing of Asian guy. How laughable is the sketch! It's more disinformation than anything else, since Tirrel isn't even Asian. It's the same reason they keep the baby's blanket hidden.

Respectfully bolded by me, because this is a big statement and it's important that we don't allow fact and rumour to become muddled. What evidence do you have for saying that the SCPD know his identity?

 

[jacobd83]

How do i submit a possiable match????

 

[Evey]

Has anyone thought about contact the LBGT community in and around New York to help identify Asian male?

Yeah I suggested that and trans groups and sex work groups

 

[Sherlockknows]

What would be great would be instead of just listing serial killer DNA and trying to find matches through family members, victims families could have a database created for them....


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[scotiansleuth]

I have made some updates to my map if anyone is interested. I am also thinking of adding a layer for our submissions so we can track them on the map, I will mark them as Submitted or Possible Match. https://www.google.com/maps/d/embed...M&ll=41.11693358176609,-73.98986387207566&z=7

 

[coffeeandacig]

1. DANIEL LEE CHO-http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/4983dmca.html


2. JASON WAYNE DENNIS-http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/4744dmut.html


3. THOEUN PENG-http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/3623dmca.html


4. LONG MANH DUONG-http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/4298dmca.html


5. BINH CONG TA-http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/4631dmca.html

Just want to add my two cents...

1. Daniel Lee Cho - Caught in a riptide in CA, Coast Guard failed to find him, likely a drowning victim
2.Jason Wayne Dennis - Suicidal, armed with a .22, likely a suicide
3. Theoun Peng - Would be 27 in 2001, and height and weight at 5' 8", 170 lbs., too old and too bulky
4. Long Manh Duong - Knocked into the sea at Bodega Head, CA, likely a drowning victim
5. Bing Cong Ta/ Ben Ta - best suggestion, but make sure markers like eyes, nasal, etc. match

Hope that helps.

 

[cinnamon&clovers]

Maybe instead of identifying the victim as Asian male, look into trans- women who have been reported missing of asian descent.