UID Victim: The Asian Male, UP9355, John Doe #8, poss. died 1996-2001, found Gilgo Beach Apr 2011

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BigCityAccountant said:
...and OMG regarding the school.....

https://survivingcedu.wordpress.com/

Convicted Child Rapist and Murderer Linked to School

[FONT=&quot]....were the product of a[/FONT][FONT=&quot] self-indulgent furniture salesman’s [/FONT][FONT=&quot]idea that what’s right for a drug addict strung out in the gutter is right for a teen who’s having trouble coping with school or growing up. The program was run by a bunch of abusive, self indulgent, narcissists/sadists who loved staying on top of us students as close to 24/7 as they could–prying into every aspect of our personal lives, subjecting us to theirs, and expecting us to smoosh with them, WHAT THE HELL? I liked smooshing with girls, but I can’t say I ever did it with a guy unless someone, often a staff member, wanted me to. [/FONT]
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Omg!

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BigCityAccountant said:
...and OMG regarding the school.....

https://survivingcedu.wordpress.com/

Convicted Child Rapist and Murderer Linked to School

[FONT=&amp]....were the product of a[/FONT][FONT=&amp] self-indulgent furniture salesman’s [/FONT][FONT=&amp]idea that what’s right for a drug addict strung out in the gutter is right for a teen who’s having trouble coping with school or growing up. The program was run by a bunch of abusive, self indulgent, narcissists/sadists who loved staying on top of us students as close to 24/7 as they could–prying into every aspect of our personal lives, subjecting us to theirs, and expecting us to smoosh with them, WHAT THE HELL? I liked smooshing with girls, but I can’t say I ever did it with a guy unless someone, often a staff member, wanted me to. [/FONT]
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Yuck! Said furniture salesman http://https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mel_Wasserman
This guy also worked there (according to wikipedia -which I realize isn't always the most reliable) http://www.ocregister.com/articles/crummel-356338-lough-boy.html
I've been trying to search for the names of the higher ups in these schools in the law suits to then see if any have a connection to LI... so far no luck but wow! This is horrible.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...l-Forgey-How-Many-Children-in-How-Many-States
 
WesternArtist said:
Yuck! Said furniture salesman http://https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mel_Wasserman
This guy also worked there (according to wikipedia -which I realize isn't always the most reliable) http://www.ocregister.com/articles/crummel-356338-lough-boy.html
I've been trying to search for the names of the higher ups in these schools in the law suits to then see if any have a connection to LI... so far no luck but wow! This is horrible.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...l-Forgey-How-Many-Children-in-How-Many-States
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In the comments, there are more names mentioned. Looks like there are numerous run aways~~reading the comments blows my mind. I can't help but feel sad :crying::crying: for all of them to ensure such physical, emotional and mental abuse.
 
BigCityAccountant said:
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In the comments, there are more names mentioned. Looks like there are numerous run aways~~reading the comments blows my mind. I can't help but feel sad :crying::crying: for all of them to ensure such physical, emotional and mental abuse.
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You and me both...just awful
And seeing how this man WALKED free for so long just blows my mind!!

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BigCityAccountant said:
...and OMG regarding the school.....

https://survivingcedu.wordpress.com/

Convicted Child Rapist and Murderer Linked to School

[FONT=&quot]....were the product of a[/FONT][FONT=&quot] self-indulgent furniture salesman’s [/FONT][FONT=&quot]idea that what’s right for a drug addict strung out in the gutter is right for a teen who’s having trouble coping with school or growing up. The program was run by a bunch of abusive, self indulgent, narcissists/sadists who loved staying on top of us students as close to 24/7 as they could–prying into every aspect of our personal lives, subjecting us to theirs, and expecting us to smoosh with them, WHAT THE HELL? I liked smooshing with girls, but I can’t say I ever did it with a guy unless someone, often a staff member, wanted me to. [/FONT]
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Thanks for posting that. I knew schools like that existed but in this case I just have no words.
 
DQN said:
I also don't think the killer is dumb enough to pick up any of his victims, he has to go through tolls with cameras etc. he sent a car to get them, by the time the bodies were found years later the driver would never remember or recognize her face or where he brought her, when he moves 100 plus people a month if not more.
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Maybe he sends a limo for them(the camera wouldn't see them) or has a personal driver and tinted windows and pays so well the driver turns a blind eye or helps even. Maybe Asian male was the first driver who helped with all the dismembered ones but then he asked for more money or tried blackmail so he was killed and the next henchmen is lazy and rather roll them out but is also a little OCD hence the distances and burlap
 
bessie said:
Relates to Asian Male how???
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The tattoo artist told someone he heard from the mother of Peaches. She lived approx 200km from his store. Based on how long she thought it would get to his store. A circle was created on a map bringing the 200km range to NJ. Not far from Atlantic City. There is a theory the Atlantic City Murderer got out of Atlantic City and went North. The Murders in Gilgo might have happened about seven months after Atlantic City. If so, and if Asian Male, and Peaches were from NJ and not NY is it possible they were killed and dumped or driven killed and dumped by the same person? However this tattoo artist is suggesting one minute Peaches is from NY, not quiet sure where, was with her Aunt and Cousin from Long Island, was from around 200km away. I am not sure he is very believable at this stage or is confused based on everything he has heard from different people. If she was from Bristol people would have missed her.


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bessie said:
Relates to Asian Male how???
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Did you receive the email on the Serial Killer? If not let me know and I'll resend. Thanks. Also on Asian male. The police report stated transgender male based on what they found. They don't seem to have released any information on the dress I presume he was wearing. I will send the composite to the Sex Workers Project did anyone ever make a digital mould of any of the missing?


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Can someone please post our Asian male UID's link on the Doe network? I can't find the link anywhere this morning. (Need more coffee, I guess.)
 
scotiansleuth said:
Beside Asian Male and Manorville John Doe I have found references to 2 other males. Is there a reason they have been excluded as part of LISK?

https://identifyus.org/en/cases/13094 and https://identifyus.org/en/cases/11010
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Contact
AgencySuffolk Cnty Med Examiners Ofc
Phone631-853-5555
Case Manager
NameRobert Golden
Phone631.853.5555
Regional Administrator
NameLori Bruski
EmailLori.Bruski@unthsc.edu
Phone817-718-7904

Maybe if you email them they'll tell you. Could be gang related. Dumped there. There was a man found near the other bodies with a gunshot. Think they said they think it was not related at all.


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WesternArtist said:
Yuck! Said furniture salesman http://https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mel_Wasserman
This guy also worked there (according to wikipedia -which I realize isn't always the most reliable) http://www.ocregister.com/articles/crummel-356338-lough-boy.html
I've been trying to search for the names of the higher ups in these schools in the law suits to then see if any have a connection to LI... so far no luck but wow! This is horrible.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...l-Forgey-How-Many-Children-in-How-Many-States
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I did find a PMM a/k/a PMS In Idaho associated with the school in Idaho. What is interesting if you search the PMS name, it comes up in NJ in '97 and in '99 for the periods of Jan - June and Jan - August, respectively.

https://familysearch.org/search/rec...query=+givenname:patrick~ +surname:stambusky~
 
BigCityAccountant said:
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I did find a PMM a/k/a PMS In Idaho associated with the school in Idaho. What is interesting if you search the PMS name, it comes up in NJ in '97 and in '99 for the periods of Jan - June and Jan - August, respectively.

https://familysearch.org/search/rec...query=+givenname:patrick~ +surname:stambusky~
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Great finds! It's easy to search court records for Idaho... https://www.idcourts.us/repository/start.do based on those I can place that guy in Idaho on 9/18/2001, 3/6/2002, 5/11/2002, 10/3/2003, 9/23/2004, 5/8/2007, 9/16/2007, 2/20/2011, 3/27/2011, 12/27/2013. That's a lot of traffic tickets for a state with relatively little LE around! IMO LE may have been keeping tabs on him. That still leaves plenty of gaps when he could have been back in NJ too.
 
I looked through every John Doe case in NY on The Doe Network and can't find our Asian male anywhere. Has he never been added?
 
An update on my submissions.....
Mustapha's DNA is in CODIS and obviously didn't produce a "hit" for Asian male or he may have been listed as excluded. LE has not listed him as excluded yet, but it's possible he has been and just not made public yet.
However, my other submission TA does not currently have DNA on file so it has yet to be compared. LE has contacted his family to obtain it but it has not been submitted or it has not been tested/submitted to CODIS so therefore he can't be excluded. Please someone update the submissions page to reflect this information. Thank you.
 
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