UK UK - Claudia Lawrence, 35, Chef, York University, 18 March 2009 #8

[Popejohn3]

Is this the article you speak of?
‘A marriage breaker? That just isn’t the Claudia I know’ | The Sunday Times

Unfortunately it says I must subscribe to read the whole thing

Yes it is

 

[Deadbeat]

Oh
Your in the Jill Rainer "Tea and Sympathy" FB group.
Jill is not what I consider to be impartial as her family are work colleagues of PR one of POIs in the case and she defends JK to the hilt.
Anything controversial is deleted from her group.
You have to ask why.

Yeah I’m in there but I don’t post.
I just read comments and theories on there. Most I take with a pinch of salt.

 

[Deadbeat]

Oh
Your in the Jill Rainer "Tea and Sympathy" FB group.
Jill is not what I consider to be impartial as her family are work colleagues of PR one of POIs in the case and she defends JK to the hilt.
Anything controversial is deleted from her group.
You have to ask why.

Yeah I’m in there but I don’t post.
I just read comments and theories on there. Most I take with a pinch of salt.

 

[Andyboy]

Was it the post by the ‘medium’ which has since been deleted? Here it is for those who are interested.

The ravens or Ray van, wasn't the nags head chef called Ray, I know he was out of the country on holiday when Claudia disappeared, but I don't suppose he left a van parked in the nags head carpark when he was away did he, funny what you think of at 3am

 

[MajorLang]

With regards to what the medium said on Facebook (pictured in my post above). Users have made the following comments on there, interesting stuff.

• I typed those names into google, the Rev Anthony dykes and derek foster ones a bishop and the other is a parish priest... 7 Milbank is at Darlington near the memorial hospital x
  
  
• The rev Anthony dykes is Birmingham, and the derek foster is Durham but they’re parish and bishops
  
  
• There is also a Millbank in York. More specifically in Malton which is where Claudia’s mum lives.
  
  
• There is a Raven studios for students in York.
• There is a Raven Grove in Acomb, York.
• Her phone was active in the Acomb area in the weeks before her death.
  
  
• Make of all that what you will but there’s some interesting points.
• 
  
• The Facebook psychic has also provided some new information -
  Rodney Pennant
  Clive Norris..
  The importance of being earnest Collaboration
  Firby Road
  Tulip

I aaw this post in a different FB group I am in where there is no censorship and to be honest there was a big discussion about it.
The "medium" who they say they are not. Got caught out because across two postings she said that Claudia came to her for the first time last Tuesday and then she said on Sunday that Claudia had come to her 3 nights ago?
She needs to make her mind up. but more importantly for Claudia to wait 11 years to contact this person and then twice in just over a week(That is if she can be sure of her dates) is rather unusual.

The poster in my opinion is K B Hillier. Who appeared a few years ago on FB and was full of S***

 

[Popejohn3]

I aaw this post in a different FB group I am in where there is no censorship and to be honest there was a big discussion about it.
The "medium" who they say they are not. Got caught out because across two postings she said that Claudia came to her for the first time last Tuesday and then she said on Sunday that Claudia had come to her 3 nights ago?
She needs to make her mind up. but more importantly for Claudia to wait 11 years to contact this person and then twice in just over a week(That is if she can be sure of her dates) is rather unusual.

The poster in my opinion is K B Hillier. Who appeared a few years ago on FB and was full of S***

Now I believe!
You must be psychic you can read my mind at least ! Lol

 

[Deadbeat]

It all seems extremely far fetched to me, I wonder if she genuinely believes this herself or wether it’s just a ploy for attention? If it’s the latter it’s rather cruel though.

There’s that other psychic guy too isn’t there (forget his name) who claims Claudia actually wrote him a letter...

I think the answers to this case lie in the local community rather than the spirit world personally but I’m always at least open to read these thoughts.

One thing I did want to ask you guys was regarding the Sozzled blog posted by Krystina the ex barmaid at The Nags.
The last line of it “It doesn’t matter and actually it’s none of your business if so, you evil little <modsnip>.” Who is that aimed at? Again, sorry if this has been previously discussed. I found that an odd way to end her story though.

 

[An_Owl]

It all seems extremely far fetched to me, I wonder if she genuinely believes this herself or wether it’s just a ploy for attention? If it’s the latter it’s rather cruel though.

There’s that other psychic guy too isn’t there (forget his name) who claims Claudia actually wrote him a letter...

I think the answers to this case lie in the local community rather than the spirit world personally but I’m always at least open to read these thoughts.

One thing I did want to ask you guys was regarding the Sozzled blog posted by Krystina the ex barmaid at The Nags.
The last line of it “It doesn’t matter and actually it’s none of your business if so, you evil little *****.” Who is that aimed at? Again, sorry if this has been previously discussed. I found that an odd way to end her story though.

It reads as though someone has said that to her when she has been trying to talk about the case to that someone and she is making it clear that she finds it suspicious?

 

[Popejohn3]

It reads as though someone has said that to her when she has been trying to talk about the case to that someone and she is making it clear that she finds it suspicious?

I think that article ‘ sozzeled Claudia ‘ was written for the barmaid by a professional writer !
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Just a thought: was Claudia ever on Craigslist ?
Or acted like one where she is seen with married men to help them get back with their spouses ?

 

[Popejohn3]

May I suggest we do not spend any time on what mediums say here or any other website.
.
I know a middle aged woman ( now ) who used to work for Grant remote reading by telephone . I think it was about 80 p per minute back then and she told me she kept this old man talking for about 1 hour 40 minutes once. He was a regular !
She admitted they got info from computers and other sources .
One meduim was on the radio a few years back .Awoman phoned in and the meduim told her she could feel the pain .Have you been to hospital ? No. Have you had a bereavement?
No . Have you ever had a miscarriage ?
No. hmm I feel you must have, some women miscarry in the first few weeks of pregnancy and they don’t even know it !
That’s when I started laughing and turned the radio off fhs !

 

[Thelastleg]

It all seems extremely far fetched to me, I wonder if she genuinely believes this herself or wether it’s just a ploy for attention? If it’s the latter it’s rather cruel though.

There’s that other psychic guy too isn’t there (forget his name) who claims Claudia actually wrote him a letter...

I think the answers to this case lie in the local community rather than the spirit world personally but I’m always at least open to read these thoughts.

One thing I did want to ask you guys was regarding the Sozzled blog posted by Krystina the ex barmaid at The Nags.
The last line of it “It doesn’t matter and actually it’s none of your business if so, you evil little *****.” Who is that aimed at? Again, sorry if this has been previously discussed. I found that an odd way to end her story though.

I thought that the punctuation was wrong and what she was trying to say was if Claudia had disappeared of her own free will, she was evil for putting her family and friends through pain and distress. JMO

 

[Yozzer]

I think that article ‘ sozzeled Claudia ‘ was written for the barmaid by a professional writer !

I think she is at least a semi professional writer - certainly a graduate or masters in creative writing or similar. And a bit of a character. But I liked the first person perspective of the Claudia article, something we don't get very often on WS.
Krystyna Sierbień – Medium
Aesthetica Magazine - Review of Peter Kennard: Unofficial War Artist, Imperial War Museum, London
FRANK FERNIE.

 

[Yozzer]

It reads as though someone has said that to her when she has been trying to talk about the case to that someone and she is making it clear that she finds it suspicious?

Yes! I wonder if reporters and journos were greeted with similar pleasantries when making their polite enquiries? They are renowned for being a hard-nosed, thick skinned profession who are used to receiving knock-backs. So to have felt the need to comment on their rebuttals would suggest they were told more than just the normal "I'd rather not talk about it thanks".
And this is what aroused their suspicions about the pub and it's patrons.
Journos have a nose for this. Remember Huntley's Sky interview?

 

[MajorLang]

It all seems extremely far fetched to me, I wonder if she genuinely believes this herself or wether it’s just a ploy for attention? If it’s the latter it’s rather cruel though.

There’s that other psychic guy too isn’t there (forget his name) who claims Claudia actually wrote him a letter...

I think the answers to this case lie in the local community rather than the spirit world personally but I’m always at least open to read these thoughts.

One thing I did want to ask you guys was regarding the Sozzled blog posted by Krystina the ex barmaid at The Nags.
The last line of it “It doesn’t matter and actually it’s none of your business if so, you evil little *****.” Who is that aimed at? Again, sorry if this has been previously discussed. I found that an odd way to end her story though.

@Deadbeat the writer of this excellent blog is on here @moonsafari
It may be that she does not wish to reveal who this was aimed at or it may be something that Claudia would have said.
We should respect her for writing this and if she wishes to give more detail on this comment I'm sure she will.
Otherwise we should use our imagination.

 

[MajorLang]

I think that article ‘ sozzeled Claudia ‘ was written for the barmaid by a professional writer !
———————————————————
Just a thought: was Claudia ever on Craigslist ?
Or acted like one where she is seen with married men to help them get back with their spouses ?

@Popejohn3 Please do not discredit @moonsafari for not writing this-I'm sure it's her own work and she is more than capable of writing creatively. I have seen other work from her and it is high quality.
It's certainly better than the book that was co wrote by Neil Root and Dales as it faces and discusses controversial issues.

 

[chimpface]

We really must have come full circle if we're discussing mediums. What a load of old bollocks.

 

[chimpface]

@Deadbeat the writer of this excellent blog is on here @moonsafari
It may be that she does not wish to reveal who this was aimed at or it may be something that Claudia would have said.
We should respect her for writing this and if she wishes to give more detail on this comment I'm sure she will.
Otherwise we should use our imagination.

I thought that last line was said to the barmaid by one of Claudia's close friends.

 

[MajorLang]

I thought that last line was said to the barmaid by one of Claudia's close friends.

Yes I can picture JK coming out with this-She has a "potty mouth."

 

[Popejohn3]

I think she is at least a semi professional writer - certainly a graduate or masters in creative writing or similar. And a bit of a character. But I liked the first person perspective of the Claudia article, something we don't get very often on WS.
Krystyna Sierbień – Medium
Aesthetica Magazine - Review of Peter Kennard: Unofficial War Artist, Imperial War Museum, London
FRANK FERNIE.

You frighten me with your efficiency !

 

[Popejohn3]

@Popejohn3 Please do not discredit @moonsafari for not writing this-I'm sure it's her own work and she is more than capable of writing creatively. I have seen other work from her and it is high quality.
It's certainly better than the book that was co wrote by Neil Root and Dales as it faces and discusses controversial issues.

Lol