UK UK - Corrie McKeague, 23, Bury St Edmunds, 24 September 2016 #9

[cotswoldemmie]

Did this 0430 in mildenhall fact go on the timeline? The 0800 is on there but not the beginning time. Also is there anything further re the MSM "no blood on the recovered phone" quote?

My apologies to you all, I think I've got my info confused.

Sorry, it's not like me to make a mistake like that [emoji20]

 

[Shiressleuth]

I particularly remember the quote about mildenhall because it originally caught my attention and is why I began following the case. I originally had no idea that BSE was so close until I looked at the map.

 

[Shiressleuth]

My apologies to you all, I think I've got my info confused.

Sorry, it's not like me to make a mistake like that [emoji20]

What mistake? What have I missed?

 

[bynoesbird]

can you confirm for me please, if my timings are correct.
Corrie was last seen at 3.24am
The last person seen on cctv was bicycle man at 3.56am
the bin lorry then at 4.00
then the next person isn't seen on cctv until 5.01am on cornhill?
so from 3.56-5.01 apart from the bin lorry there is no cctv of any one else in the town?
That's an hour and five minutes....

 

[Miss_French]

Yep, it went on there...

0300: Shift start time & vehicle checked
0352: Vehicle departs for SB (8 minute journey from site to 'Horseshoe').
0400: Bin man enters SB
0405: Driver fills in collection paperwork.
0415: Bin man starts collection procedure
0420: Bin man sees three teenagers in SB
0425: Bin man finishes collection procedure
0430: Bin man departs SB for BM (31 minute journey from 'Horseshoe' to BM roundabout).
0501: Bin lorry arrives at BM roundabout/Mildenhall.


21(15): Corrie feeds the dog and locks him in the bathroom.
21(30): Two cars with Corrie's workmates depart Hon.
2200: Corrie departs Hon in his own car (with a passenger?).
http://www.findcorrie.co.uk/2016/11/11/what-time-did-corrie-leave-raf-honington/
2221: Corrie parks in disabled bay in Robert Roby Way.
2221-2300: Corrie drinks in his car whilst making a phone call to Darroch.
2305: Corrie walks to SoBar pub and meets up with work colleagues.
2320: Corrie walks to Weatherspoons.
0001: Corrie leaves Weatherspoons around midnight for Flex.
Source- BBC Look East Evening News 12122016
0015: Corrie enters Flex night club.
0040: Corrie is 'ejected' from the nightclub.
0055: Corrie enters kebab shop.
0115: Corrie leaves kebab shop with kebab, chips and two burgers.
http://www.findcorrie.co.uk/2016/11/11/isnt-it-weird-to-sleep-in-a-doorway/
Corrie seen walking purposefully towards The Grapes pub.
http://www.findcorrie.co.uk/2016/11/11/what-time-is-the-1st-cctv-that-we-see-him-on/
0300: Shift start time for bin man. Vehicle checked.
0308: Corrie sends/receives photo image from Hughes.
http://www.findcorrie.co.uk/2016/11/11/has-the-text-message-corrie-sent-at-0308-been-looked-in-to/
0319: Two persons seen walking from Market Square towards McDonalds.
https://www.suffolk.police.uk/news/missing-persons/corrie-mckeague
0321: White Tshirt man, Cornhill walk.
https://www.suffolk.police.uk/news/missing-persons/corrie-mckeague
0324: Last CCTV sighting of Corrie.
http://www.findcorrie.co.uk/2016/11/11/when-and-where-was-corrie-last-seen/
0326: Two people with light clothing seen coming from Market Square towards McDonalds.
https://www.suffolk.police.uk/news/missing-persons/corrie-mckeague
0335: Dark clothing1 man, Cornhill Walk.
https://www.suffolk.police.uk/news/missing-persons/corrie-mckeague
0340: Running man, Lurker & Legs man seen in 'Horseshoe'.
0352: Bin lorry departs (Hollow Lane) for BSE.
0356: Bicycle man, cycling around Cornhill area.
https://www.suffolk.police.uk/news/missing-persons/corrie-mckeague
0400: Bin lorry enters SB.
0405: Bin lorry driver fills in collection paperwork.
0410: Bins lorry driver starts collection procedure of ONE BIN with 11kgs of material in it. It then drives to its next pick up in Mildenhall and onto the recycling centre outside of the county via the Barton Mills roundabout.
0415: Bin man starts collection procedure.
0420: Bin man finishes collection procedure in SB. Three teenagers seen in Shortbrackland by bin man.
0425: Bin man finishes collection procedure.
0430: Corrie's phone left the BSE mast area. Bin lorry departs SB and heads towards Mildenhall for a collection, along A1101 via the BM roundabout.
0455: (Bin lorry is at Barton Mills roundabout.)
0500: Corrie's phone enters the BM mast area.
http://www.findcorrie.co.uk/2016/11/11/has-corries-phone-been-checked/
0501: Dark clothing2 man seen walking around Cornhill Walk.
https://www.suffolk.police.uk/news/missing-persons/corrie-mckeague
0501: (Bin lorry is at BM roundabout/Mildenhall).
0503: (Corrie's phone would be at BM roundabout at this time.
0518: Dark clothing3 man seen walking around Cornhill Walk.
https://www.suffolk.police.uk/news/missing-persons/corrie-mckeague
0520: Dark backpack man seen in Cornhill Market Square area.
https://www.suffolk.police.uk/news/missing-persons/corrie-mckeague
0800: Corrie's phone is last active within the BM mast area.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ouZCCnULs34


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On the Look East report last night, I noticed discrepancies between what the reporter was saying (eg "left wetherspoons just after midnight") to the times being shown on-screen. So, using the latter, the timeline would change to:

2249: Corrie arrives at So Bar
2321: Corrie arrives at Wetherspoons
0033: Corrie leaves Wetherspoons
0111: Corrie asked to leave Flex

 

[Shiressleuth]

Last phone ping at BSE mast area was 0430.
Phone entered BM mast area 0458.
Phone stopped working at BM mast area at approx 0800.


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Have I missed something (don't have time to go through all the posts I've missed) but in that Express report, under the pic of Corrie it says 'police forensics found no evidence of blood on the young man's recovered phone'
Have they found his phone or is this shoddy reporting like the cars have been traced and discounted?

Not sure there are bin lorry specifics out there yet, but it's something like:

Bin lorry in Horseshoe (3.30 - 4.30am)

Corrie's phone pings on Bury mast: 4.00am

Corrie's phone pings on Barton Mills mast: 4.30am (and continues to ping the mast til 8am)

Known journey time for bin lorry roughly 30 mins.

So my guess would be it arriving and departing in a 3.45 - 4.15am window, maybe a little bit earlier, 3.35 - 4.05. Either way, it had to reach the outer radius of BM phone mast at around 4.30am.

But it's true, I don't think there any concrete times on the bin lorry out there.



http://shadwellsblog.blogspot.co.uk/2016/10/timeline-corrie-mckeague.html

So is it 0400 on the BSE mast and 0430 on the BM as I am not the only one who thinks so?

 

[CoverMeCagney]

can you confirm for me please, if my timings are correct.
Corrie was last seen at 3.24am
The last person seen on cctv was bicycle man at 3.56am
the bin lorry then at 4.00
then the next person isn't seen on cctv until 5.01am on cornhill?
so from 3.56-5.01 apart from the bin lorry there is no cctv of any one else in the town?
That's an hour and five minutes....

Welcome, bynoesbird!! I haven't seen some of those timings before and didn't know there was a 3:56 - 5:01 gap, where did you get those timings from?

 

[Scorpio1]

So is it 0400 on the BSE mast and 0430 on the BM as I am not the only one who thinks so?

the bin man was still around at 4.20 as he saw the 3 teenagers,

 

[Dcflag]

Hope you got the chance for a couple of hours of decent sleep!
More4 Thursday 22 December at 9pm. It will be two episodes.

Thank you for that, she was up till 3am and then up for the day at half 8! I'll set it now so I don't forget!

 

[Dcflag]

can you confirm for me please, if my timings are correct.
Corrie was last seen at 3.24am
The last person seen on cctv was bicycle man at 3.56am
the bin lorry then at 4.00
then the next person isn't seen on cctv until 5.01am on cornhill?
so from 3.56-5.01 apart from the bin lorry there is no cctv of any one else in the town?
That's an hour and five minutes....

On the Suffolk police website there are time stamps for the cctv images, there are a few very close to 3.25
https://www.suffolk.police.uk/news/missing-persons/corrie-mckeague

 

[bynoesbird]

Welcome, bynoesbird!! I haven't seen some of those timings before and didn't know there was a 3:56 - 5:01 gap, where did you get those timings from?

Thank you for the welcome from the time line I read?

0300: Shift start time & vehicle checked
0352: Vehicle departs for SB (8 minute journey from site to 'Horseshoe').
0400: Bin man enters SB
0405: Driver fills in collection paperwork.
0415: Bin man starts collection procedure
0420: Bin man sees three teenagers in SB
0425: Bin man finishes collection procedure
0430: Bin man departs SB for BM (31 minute journey from 'Horseshoe' to BM roundabout).
0501: Bin lorry arrives at BM roundabout/Mildenhall.


21(15): Corrie feeds the dog and locks him in the bathroom.
21(30): Two cars with Corrie's workmates depart Hon.
2200: Corrie departs Hon in his own car (with a passenger?).
http://www.findcorrie.co.uk/2016/11/...raf-honington/
2221: Corrie parks in disabled bay in Robert Roby Way.
2221-2300: Corrie drinks in his car whilst making a phone call to Darroch.
2305: Corrie walks to SoBar pub and meets up with work colleagues.
2320: Corrie walks to Weatherspoons.
0001: Corrie leaves Weatherspoons around midnight for Flex.
Source- BBC Look East Evening News 12122016
0015: Corrie enters Flex night club.
0040: Corrie is 'ejected' from the nightclub.
0055: Corrie enters kebab shop.
0115: Corrie leaves kebab shop with kebab, chips and two burgers.
http://www.findcorrie.co.uk/2016/11/...-in-a-doorway/
Corrie seen walking purposefully towards The Grapes pub.
http://www.findcorrie.co.uk/2016/11/...we-see-him-on/
0300: Shift start time for bin man. Vehicle checked.
0308: Corrie sends/receives photo image from Hughes.
http://www.findcorrie.co.uk/2016/11/...-looked-in-to/
0319: Two persons seen walking from Market Square towards McDonalds.
https://www.suffolk.police.uk/news/m...orrie-mckeague
0321: White Tshirt man, Cornhill walk.
https://www.suffolk.police.uk/news/m...orrie-mckeague
0324: Last CCTV sighting of Corrie.
http://www.findcorrie.co.uk/2016/11/...rie-last-seen/
0326: Two people with light clothing seen coming from Market Square towards McDonalds.
https://www.suffolk.police.uk/news/m...orrie-mckeague
0335: Dark clothing1 man, Cornhill Walk.
https://www.suffolk.police.uk/news/m...orrie-mckeague
0340: Running man, Lurker & Legs man seen in 'Horseshoe'.
0352: Bin lorry departs (Hollow Lane) for BSE.
0356: Bicycle man, cycling around Cornhill area.
https://www.suffolk.police.uk/news/m...orrie-mckeague
0400: Bin lorry enters SB.
0405: Bin lorry driver fills in collection paperwork.
0410: Bins lorry driver starts collection procedure of ONE BIN with 11kgs of material in it. It then drives to its next pick up in Mildenhall and onto the recycling centre outside of the county via the Barton Mills roundabout.
0415: Bin man starts collection procedure.
0420: Bin man finishes collection procedure in SB. Three teenagers seen in Shortbrackland by bin man.
0425: Bin man finishes collection procedure.
0430: Corrie's phone left the BSE mast area. Bin lorry departs SB and heads towards Mildenhall for a collection, along A1101 via the BM roundabout.
0455: (Bin lorry is at Barton Mills roundabout.)
0500: Corrie's phone enters the BM mast area.
http://www.findcorrie.co.uk/2016/11/...-been-checked/
0501: Dark clothing2 man seen walking around Cornhill Walk.
https://www.suffolk.police.uk/news/m...orrie-mckeague
0501: (Bin lorry is at BM roundabout/Mildenhall).
0503: (Corrie's phone would be at BM roundabout at this time.
0518: Dark clothing3 man seen walking around Cornhill Walk.
https://www.suffolk.police.uk/news/m...orrie-mckeague
0520: Dark backpack man seen in Cornhill Market Square area.
https://www.suffolk.police.uk/news/m...orrie-mckeague
0800: Corrie's phone is last active within the BM mast area.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ouZCCnULs34

when I read through it it shows no one was seen between 3.56-5.01 apart from the bin lorry?
is this correct?

 

[bynoesbird]

The bin man saying he saw 3 teenagers at 4.20am Has this been confirmed with cctv?

 

[MissTerious]

I'm back to being totally baffled! Anything is possible, but the high probability of his phone being in that bin just points to the occurrence taking place in that bin area unless he put the phone in the bin himself. Having watched that video report in the town yesterday and how it was normal for him to go up to complete strangers and chat to them, there is every possibility that he did see a group of people in that corner, possibly doing something dodgy, he comes over all chatty & confident with the drink, they see him as a bit gullible and agree to take him home but they don't.

 

[WhereIsJohnnyGosch]

I'm back to being totally baffled! Anything is possible, but the high probability of his phone being in that bin just points to the occurrence taking place in that bin area unless he put the phone in the bin himself. Having watched that video report in the town yesterday and how it was normal for him to go up to complete strangers and chat to them, there is every possibility that he did see a group of people in that corner, possibly doing something dodgy, he comes over all chatty & confident with the drink, they see him as a bit gullible and agree to take him home but they don't.

I can see the logic but then how do they get there and then all get out without being seen?


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[MissTerious]

In one of the cars that I thought were identified but not yet investigated? There is also that post in the corner too, where it appears as though a person could climb onto that and access the wall to the roof tops, would this set off alarms up there, which is why they are saying that he never went through a building. I did say I was baffled!

 

[MidsummersDay]

Did this 0430 in mildenhall fact go on the timeline? The 0800 is on there but not the beginning time. Also is there anything further re the MSM "no blood on the recovered phone" quote?

0300: Shift start time & vehicle checked
0352: Vehicle departs for SB (8 minute journey from site to 'Horseshoe').
0400: Bin man enters SB
0405: Driver fills in collection paperwork.
0415: Bin man starts collection procedure
0420: Bin man sees three teenagers in SB
0425: Bin man finishes collection procedure
0430: Bin man departs SB for BM (31 minute journey from 'Horseshoe' to BM roundabout).
0501: Bin lorry arrives at BM roundabout/Mildenhall.


21(15): Corrie feeds the dog and locks him in the bathroom.
21(30): Two cars with Corrie's workmates depart Hon.
2200: Corrie departs Hon in his own car (with a passenger?).
http://www.findcorrie.co.uk/2016/11/11/what-time-did-corrie-leave-raf-honington/
2221: Corrie parks in disabled bay in Robert Roby Way.
2221-2300: Corrie drinks in his car whilst making a phone call to Darroch.
2305: Corrie walks to SoBar pub and meets up with work colleagues.
2320: Corrie walks to Weatherspoons.
0001: Corrie leaves Weatherspoons around midnight for Flex.
Source- BBC Look East Evening News 12122016
0015: Corrie enters Flex night club.
0040: Corrie is 'ejected' from the nightclub.
0055: Corrie enters kebab shop.
0115: Corrie leaves kebab shop with kebab, chips and two burgers.
http://www.findcorrie.co.uk/2016/11/11/isnt-it-weird-to-sleep-in-a-doorway/
Corrie seen walking purposefully towards The Grapes pub.
http://www.findcorrie.co.uk/2016/11/11/what-time-is-the-1st-cctv-that-we-see-him-on/
0300: Shift start time for bin man. Vehicle checked.
0308: Corrie sends/receives photo image from Hughes.
http://www.findcorrie.co.uk/2016/11/11/has-the-text-message-corrie-sent-at-0308-been-looked-in-to/
0319: Two persons seen walking from Market Square towards McDonalds.
https://www.suffolk.police.uk/news/missing-persons/corrie-mckeague
0321: White Tshirt man, Cornhill walk.
https://www.suffolk.police.uk/news/missing-persons/corrie-mckeague
0324: Last CCTV sighting of Corrie.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=46UD0lk-c2g
http://www.findcorrie.co.uk/2016/11/11/when-and-where-was-corrie-last-seen/
0326: Two people with light clothing seen coming from Market Square towards McDonalds.
https://www.suffolk.police.uk/news/missing-persons/corrie-mckeague
0335: Dark clothing1 man, Cornhill Walk.
https://www.suffolk.police.uk/news/missing-persons/corrie-mckeague
0340: Running man, Lurker & Legs man seen in 'Horseshoe'.
0352: Bin lorry departs (Hollow Lane) for BSE.
0356: Bicycle man, cycling around Cornhill area.
https://www.suffolk.police.uk/news/missing-persons/corrie-mckeague
0400: Bin lorry enters SB.
0405: Bin lorry driver fills in collection paperwork.
0410: Bins lorry driver starts collection procedure of ONE BIN with 11kgs of material in it. It then drives to its next pick up in Mildenhall and onto the recycling centre outside of the county via the Barton Mills roundabout.
0415: Bin man starts collection procedure.
0420: Bin man finishes collection procedure in SB. Three teenagers seen in Shortbrackland by bin man.
0425: Bin man finishes collection procedure.
0430: Corrie's phone left the BSE mast area. Bin lorry departs SB and heads towards Mildenhall for a collection, along A1101 via the BM roundabout.
0455: (Bin lorry is at Barton Mills roundabout.)
0500: Corrie's phone enters the BM mast area.
http://www.findcorrie.co.uk/2016/11/11/has-corries-phone-been-checked/
0501: Dark clothing2 man seen walking around Cornhill Walk.
https://www.suffolk.police.uk/news/missing-persons/corrie-mckeague
0501: (Bin lorry is at BM roundabout/Mildenhall).
0503: (Corrie's phone would be at BM roundabout at this time.
0518: Dark clothing3 man seen walking around Cornhill Walk.
https://www.suffolk.police.uk/news/missing-persons/corrie-mckeague
0520: Dark backpack man seen in Cornhill Market Square area.
https://www.suffolk.police.uk/news/missing-persons/corrie-mckeague
0800: Corrie's phone is last active within the BM mast area.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ouZCCnULs34


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[MidsummersDay]

I can see the logic but then how do they get there and then all get out without being seen?


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A car....when the Greenwoods camera is pointing the other way?


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[eeejay268]

I'm back to being totally baffled! Anything is possible, but the high probability of his phone being in that bin just points to the occurrence taking place in that bin area unless he put the phone in the bin himself. Having watched that video report in the town yesterday and how it was normal for him to go up to complete strangers and chat to them, there is every possibility that he did see a group of people in that corner, possibly doing something dodgy, he comes over all chatty & confident with the drink, they see him as a bit gullible and agree to take him home but they don't.

yeah just a random event, they've bundled him up in the car, thinking its funny, drove off with him, dumped him somewhere, still thinking its funny like Thetford forest, and he's drunk, disorientated, got completely lost and succumbed to drink, confusion, drowning, exposure etc etc. I'm wondering if a similar event would tie in with the 'anonymous call from a girl' she reported on Look East, who had rung with info?

 

[eeejay268]

I can see the logic but then how do they get there and then all get out without being seen?


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because there is an area that the cameras don't cover, they could be there because they've arranged a pick up, because they're out clubbing? buying drugs, anything? so he wanders over, starts yapping, they essentially mug him, bundle him, drive off maybe down the wrong way down the one way street, then dump him somewhere for fun. Seriously, in a past life, I knew some proper low lifes that would have done something like that for fun :facepalm:

 

[MissTerious]

What if this group were up to no good with Corrie but hadn't planned at this point what they would do with him, his phone slipped out of his pocket climbing into car or he had put it down and one of the guys stuck it in the bin without him realising.