Identified! UK - David Lytton, South Pennines, 'Neil Dovestone', 65-75, Dec'15

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There has been speculation in the press that this man died from strychnine poisoning. Now, strychnine is a peculiar drug and at one time it was used by main-stream medics therapeutically as a stimulant or 'nerve-tonic'; it's been used by athletes as a 'performance enhancer' and as such is still a banned substance by sporting authorities. It's used by herbalists as a 'natural' medication known as Nux Vomica to treat all sorts of maladies but is most commonly used as a poison to kill rats and other small mammals. Its affects are particularly unpleasant - it does not cause unconsciousness but instead the victim remains fully conscious while the body is subject to many repeated muscular spasms resulting in painful contortions until the heart and lungs finally fail and death finally ends the suffering - horrible, most horrible! It ought to go without saying that if you were to choose how to die strychnine wouldn't even figure on your list.

Toxicology tests showed that the man's tissues had traces of strychnine and another drug which has been described as a anti-hypertensive drug When a chemist talks about 'traces' they usually mean that there is enough of the substance to detect but not enough to quantitatively assay (i.e. say how much is present or its concentration); if that's the case here then it's unlikely that we're dealing with poisoning simply because there isn't going to be a fatal amount in the body. And what about the other drug? I have found only one source which identifies this - said to be reserpine.

Reserpine is a somewhat uncommon drug not now routinely prescribed.

I can understand why people have latched on to the strychnine and decided that he must have been poisoned but equally he could have died from an overdose of reserpine but no-one has suggested that.

Why did he have traces of these unusual substances in his body anyway? Strychnine isn't available for purchase in the UK for any reason, so it must almost certainly be from a foreign source (there is the slim possibility it had been kept from way back when had been available).

The man was said to have been carrying an empty container marked 'Thyroxine' - a drug to treat the effects of an underactive thyroid (symptoms include tiredness, feeling run-down, etc); I suggest that this may have contained a counterfeit version of this drug that had been imported either by the victim or possibly an 'alternative therapist'. I suggest that this counterfeit contained a mixture of strychnine and reserpine. Counterfeit drugs are usually either totally inert, repackaged veterinary preparations or simply contain cheaper substances that in some ways have similar effects to the drug named on the label. Strychnine would certainly counteract some of the symptoms of hypothyroidism and (where available) is easily and cheaply procurable as a rodenticide and so is possible ingredient. As strychnine causes an increase in blood pressure the presence of reserpine would help to counteract this undesirable effect. Needless to say this preparation is an inappropriate and ineffective treatment for hypothyroidism; it is also highly dangerous.

Unfortunately, as I have said, the container was empty when found so there is nothing left to test but press reports say that traces of strychnine were found inside. We will have to wait until the inquest to learn exactly what amounts of these substances were present in the man's body and whether they really were related to his death.

I suspect he intended to make a round trip in a day; as he didn't take any luggage he would be unlikely to be planning an overnight stay. Why he wanted to make the trip in the first place is a mystery that won't be solved until he is identified, I'm sure. He must have started off with maybe £250 in cash; this would be enough to cover his train fares (£90.80) plus food and any contingencies. He bought a return train ticket at Euston and travelled to Greenfield but by the time he arrived it was getting late - he was running out of time and was therefore anxious to make his way up the hill without delay. Maybe before he started he took one of his 'Thyroxine' tablets to give himself a bit more energy. Maybe he hadn't had much food (there were no receipts found on the body) during his journey; but he was said to have purchased a sandwich. The weather was bad - it was raining and the wind was said to be strong - night was coming on and it was December. Furthermore, he wasn't dressed appropriately for the climb - he was warmly dressed but his clothes were not waterproof. Getting wet will increase one's chances of getting hypothermia several fold - sufferers will become disorientated and confused; very often they make poor decisions - they will fail to comprehend their predicament and have even been known to remove some clothing in the mistaken belief that they are overheating. They will feel tired and fatigued and will have the strong urge to 'hunker down' or to have a rest and continue their journey later; the 'rest' then becomes sleep and then unconsciousness. Is this what happened here; did he become confused, take the rest of his 'energy pills' to give him the strength to carry on but feeling exhausted lie down to sleep? The reported disposition of the body (supine with legs together and arms at the sides) suggests a sleeping position and unlikely to be the result of paroxysmal muscular spasms that strychnine would have caused. So, did he just die of the cold?
 
If he died of hypothermia, surely that would have been evident during the post-mortem?
 
Why did he have traces of these unusual substances in his body anyway? Strychnine isn't available for purchase in the UK for any reason, so it must almost certainly be from a foreign source (there is the slim possibility it had been kept from way back when had been available).

Strychnine is still prescribed by homeopathists in the UK in the form strychninum, and for obvious reasons it would indeed be prescribed by them in vanishingly small concentrations.

http://www.britishhomeopathic.org/b...p/conditions-a-z/spotlight-on-nervous-system/
 
If he died of hypothermia, surely that would have been evident during the post-mortem?

No, not usually evident - commonly it's a diagnosis of exclusion that takes into account the circumstances of the death as well as PM findings. As far as I know the pathologist's report has not been made public and presumably we will have to wait until the inquest (whenever that will be) to hear what he or she has to say.
 
That picture looks very different from the CCTV, but the police seem to think it's a better representation, so maybe that will help ID him.
 

I see the article says they've run out of leads in the UK, but although there's another mention of DNA testing having been done on this chap there's no mention of isotope analysis being done on him. If it hasn't been, that's a real oversight. Between his bones, teeth and hair they should be able to create a fair timeline of where he's been and when. By the looks of it his remaining hair was around an inch long, which would be enough to show whether he had been in Pakistan in the month or two before his death. If he had been, they should be able to look at airline passenger manifests for the relevant period.
 
http://saddind.co.uk/police-wait-on...-help-identify-saddleworth-moors-mystery-man/

Police wait on bone specialist clues to help identify Saddleworth moors mystery man
By Trevor Baxter -
May 18, 2016
Dr Mangham has worked for nearly two months to categorise the injury more precisely, trying to age the scar left by the operation and provide any clue to avoid a mass search of Pakistani hospitals thought to number nearly 1,000.

Until his findings come through – and it could be another week before they are received – police have stepped up their search through further media appeals.

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“If we find out where he had his operation we will find out who he is and who his next of kin are,” said Detective Sergeant John Coleman. “The bone specialist is trying to narrow things down for us.

“However, before we get those results I don’t want to go to the hospitals. We need to get some manageable figures before we do.

The Independent understands Professor Stephen Evans, initially suggested as the victim, plans an emotional return to Saddleworth this summer. Professor Evans was one of two child survivors from a 1949 plane crash at Wimberry Stones.
 
Wow! Great read, and stunning photography!

I didn't realize he had spent so much time in the train station. And the artist's rendering looks so different than the CCTV footage. But I suppose the artist had access to post-mortem photographs- so I'm guessing it's accurate.

Also, now having SEEN the thyroxine bottle, and the fact that he also had the box- that is the type of bottle a pharmacy would have as stock. It is not an individual prescription, as they're are no instructions. The box is puzzling, as it is the first thing thrown away (all the expiration/ lot number info is also on the bottle itself). So this makes me think he worked in a pharmacy or for the drug company (at the manufacturing facility) itself. That is really the only way such packaging would be in his possession.
 
I think the link with Pakistan seems to be a very promising lead and it looks like they are currently investigating the titanium leg plate that he had fitted some time on or before 2013.

It looks like the medicine box has an expiry of 06/16 and a manufacturing date of 06/15 and article states that it had been manufactured and distributed in Pakistan.
So it would seem that he possibly arrived in England between June 2015 and December 2015.
 
I didn't realize he had spent so much time in the train station.

Me neither. I wonder if he was deliberately killing time, such as waiting to meet someone who never turned up. Probably not, since I assume waiting-for-someone behaviours, such as glancing at a watch or clock and periodically looking about him, should be pretty obvious from the CCTV footage.
 
Wow! Great read, and stunning photography!...

Also, now having SEEN the thyroxine bottle, and the fact that he also had the box- that is the type of bottle a pharmacy would have as stock. It is not an individual prescription, as they're are no instructions. The box is puzzling, as it is the first thing thrown away (all the expiration/ lot number info is also on the bottle itself). So this makes me think he worked in a pharmacy or for the drug company (at the manufacturing facility) itself. That is really the only way such packaging would be in his possession.

Agreed - that's a very nicely presented piece.

The label on the thyroxine bottle looks pretty bashed about - could it have been picked out of a rubbish bin?
 
Agreed - that's a very nicely presented piece.

The label on the thyroxine bottle looks pretty bashed about - could it have been picked out of a rubbish bin?

I think not, because he had the original packing box as well. The box is generally thrown away as soon as the bottle is opened. I highly doubt he would have found both items in the trash at the same time.
 

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