GUILTY UK - Fusilier Lee Rigby, 25, brutally murdered, Woolwich, 22 May 2013

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Eyewitnesses reporting the two men who carried out the attack waited for armed police to arrive. and were asking people to take photos.
 
Just hearing this on the news, horrific. Apparently the victim was a serving soldier, and COBRA is meeting. There must be something they're not telling us, COBRA don't meet every time an off duty soldier is murdered.
 
Sorry if posted already, but this is gruesome. Happened a few hours ago in the UK, and is breaking news.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22630303

A man has been killed in a machete attack and two suspects shot by police in Woolwich, south-east London.

Prime Minister David Cameron said there were "strong indications that it is a terrorist incident" and the UK would "never buckle" in the face of such attacks.

Footage has emerged showing a man wielding a bloodied meat cleaver and making political statements.

There are unconfirmed reports that the dead man was a soldier.

Both French President Francois Hollande and MP Nick Raynsford said the dead man had been a soldier at Woolwich barracks.

The footage shown on the ITV website shows a man, speaking to the camera, saying: "We must fight them as they fight us. An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth."

He added: "I apologise that women have had to witness this today, but in our land our women have to see the same. You people will never be safe. Remove your government, they don't care about you."

Scene of incident in Woolwich The incident took place before many witnesses
In developments since the attack, in John Wilson Street, the A205, at 14:20 BST:

Downing Street said Mr Cameron, who had been planning to stay in Paris overnight after meeting the French president, would be returning to the UK later on Wednesday
At a meeting of the government's emergency response committee, Cobra, it was decided to tighten security at Woolwich and other barracks in London
Both shot men were taken to hospital, one by air ambulance
One of the men is in a serious condition, the other is also being treated for injuries
In a joint press conference, Mr Hollande said he wanted to express his solidarity with the UK after the "murder of a British soldier", but Mr Cameron did not confirm the victim had been a serviceman
The Ministry of Defence said it was urgently looking into reports the incident had involved a soldier
Another Cobra meeting will be held on Thursday morning, chaired by Mr Cameron
Home Secretary Theresa May said she had been briefed by the director general of Security Service MI5, Andrew Parker, and Metropolitan Police Commissioner Bernard Hogan-Howe on the "sickening and barbaric" attack.

Mr Cameron said Britain had faced "these sort of attacks", adding: "We will never buckle in the face of them.

"People across Britain, people in every community, I believe, will utterly condemn this attack."

He expressed sympathy for the victim and his family, saying: "It is the most appalling crime. We are obviously seeking, and the police are urgently seeking, the full facts about this case."

One witness, identified only as James, said two men had attacked another man, aged about 20, who was wearing a T-shirt of military charity Help for Heroes.

"These two guys were crazed. They were just animals. They dragged him from the pavement and dumped his body in the middle of the road and left his body there," he told LBC radio.

He said after the "horrendous" attack, the two men, who were also in their 20s, stood around, waving knives and a gun, and asked people to take pictures of them "as if they wanted to be on TV or something".

"They were oblivious to anything, they were more worried about having their photo taken, running up and down the road," he said.

Witness Graham Wilders told the BBC he had arrived on the scene to find a car crashed into a wall and a man on the ground.

"Two people were lying over him and I thought they were trying to resuscitate him," he said.

But Mr Wilders said he had driven on to park his car, and when he had returned another witness had told him the two men had been stabbing the man on the ground.

Thomas, another witness who contacted the BBC, said: "I got there minutes after it happened because you could hear gunshots from Woolwich High Street.

"Basically two men carried out an axe attack on a young army cadet walking along the street, by the looks of things the police responded and then shot them in front of the public, at the same time I couldn't really tell if the cadet was fatally or not hurt as police were crowded around him."

According to senior Whitehall sources the people carrying out the attack were heard to say: "Allahu Akbar [God is Great]", BBC political editor Nick Robinson reported.

On Twitter, the Mayor of London Boris Johnson described the attack as a "sickening deluded and unforgivable act of violence".

Buckingham Palace says the Queen is concerned at the news of the attack and is being kept informed.

Help for Heroes said the charity was "appalled to hear that a man, believed to be a serving soldier, has been brutally murdered in Woolwich today".


Mr Raynsford, the Woolwich and Greenwich MP, said he had spoken to local police and understood a number of weapons had been seized at the scene including a gun, knives, and a machete.

Metropolitan Police Commander Simon Letchford said two alleged attackers had been shot by officers.

He said: "Police were called to reports of an assault... where one man was being assaulted by two other men. A number of weapons were reportedly being used in the attack, and this included reports of a firearm.

"Officers including local Greenwich officers arrived at the scene, and shortly after firearms officers arrived on the scene.

"On their arrival at the scene they found a man, who was later pronounced dead.

Head teacher David Dixon describes seeing a body in the street and hearing gunshots

"Two men, who we believe from early reports to have been carrying weapons, were shot by police. They have both been taken to separate London hospitals. They are receiving treatment for their injuries.

"I can understand that this incident will cause community concerns and I would like to reiterate that we are investigating the circumstances."

Meanwhile, the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) confirmed it had been informed.

David Dixon, a local head teacher, told the BBC News Channel he walked out of the school gates and saw a body lying in the road a short distance away.

He then heard gunshots and instructed staff to lock all the gates of his school.

The air ambulance landed in the playground and most of the children have now gone home, he said.
 
Just hearing this on the news, horrific. Apparently the victim was a serving soldier, and COBRA is meeting. There must be something they're not telling us, COBRA don't meet every time an off duty soldier is murdered.

They will do if it's being treated as an act of terrorism, which it is. The two men made no effort to leave the scene and the video I've just posted shows one of them making what could be construed as a terrorist statement.
 
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This is one of the killers.
 
WTF, over?

Are there more details? Anything which would lend some sense to this? I mean, there will be no sense, but still. Anything more which will help me in any way understand at least the motives behind this?

Because if the newest terrorist attacks are hacking random people to death with kitchen cleavers on the city streets by other random folk in broad daylight, and then giving 'interviews'...

It's time to start arming the population. Period.

So someone please make some sense of this for me. And even if you can't, please at least make something up.

Good Lord, have mercy on us all.

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Oh great, there's been an attack on a mosque in Essex. I wouldn't like to be muslim in Britain tonight, think I'd stay behind closed doors.
 
CNN's Morgan bans St. Louis' Loesch over `glib' Tweet on beheading

1 hour ago • By Kevin McDermott kmcdermott@post-dispatch.com 314-340-8268

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ST. LOUIS • Liberal CNN host Piers Morgan says he has banned conservative St. Louis radio host Dana Loesch from his show, alleging she was “glib” in a Twitter comment about the beheading of a British soldier.

The soldier was killed in London by a machete-wielding assailant, officials said today.

Loesch, in an apparent comment on criticism of gun owners by gun-control advocates, responded by posting on her Twitter feed: “Was the guy with the machete a member of the NRA? Asking for a friend.”

Morgan, who is British, responded via Twitter: “You think the beheading of a soldier is something to be glib about???”

A heated Twitter exchange ensued between the two, who have appeared on each others' shows debating their opposing ideologies.

During the Twitter exchange, Loesch slammed Morgan for “calling me Nancy Lanza because I stood up for 2A rights,” referring to the mother of Newtown massacre shooter Adam Lanza. Morgan wrote that Loesch should “shut up with stupid political wisecracks” and “show some bloody respect.”

The exchange culminated with a Tweet from Morgan: “Can’t stomach @DLoesch goading Brits with her outrageous tweeting re beheaded soldier story. Unfollowed, and banned from my show.”

Read more: http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...cle_b8d82134-88e9-53b8-9f89-832210972f1d.html
 
Evil, soulless, stupid, insane, sick, demented, twisted, brainless idiots!

Horrific. Why?
 

Stupid morons. They're part of the problem.

I lived in England for a few years when I was a child, and I remember a few times my parents taped our letter box up before we went to bed at night after the IRA had carried out bombing attacks in England. Obviously most English people are far too sensible and moral to engage in vigilantism, but there was still a minority who were issuing death threats to any Irish family in the neighbourhood. There was one time me and my brother walked down the front steps to go to school and when we looked back to wave goodbye to our mother there was racist graffiti daubed all over the front of our house.

As for the people responsible for hacking this young man to death in the street, I just have no words for them. Beneath contempt, and just incredibly, incredibly stupid.
 
Wthello is going on in our world?
Such violence and hate.....and in daylight near the barracks.

Terrorist can't be allowed to take over! Imo
 
It was amazing to see that young woman pulling her shopping cart walk across the street and right by one of the killers who was talking to the camera, she will certainly feel some fear when she sees herself on TV and realize what she was witnessing!
What a horrible thing to witness, and the woman who got off the bus and confronted the killers, talking to them, she had some guts!
So sorry for what this soldier's family will go through now. So Sad.
 

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