GUILTY UK - Helen Bailey, 51, Royston, 11 April 2016 #10

[ZaZara]

Yessssss!


Guilty on all six charges!!!

 

[ColourPurple]

Snipped from CPs post re Munchausen's

Signs and symptoms of Munchausen's syndrome may include pretending to be ill or self-harming to aggravate or induce illness.

Wasn't there a part in IS evidence were he said he had thought about self harming to see if that would help him to deal with his worries ?

I think he probably just said it in an attempt to prove how upset he was.

Re Munchausens, I had a friend at work years ago (now ex friend) who fit all of the symptoms of Munchausens who would lie about having cancer, being raped(not just raped once but 2 or 3 times), having miscarriages, would wear bandages and neck braces one day and be OK the next but to me she was just a compulsive liar. She'd lie for attention but also to manipulate and get out of something or to guilt trip the other person. A couple of examples, I once remarked that she seemed a bit snappy and she snapped back "Thanks a lot my aunty just died" another time she was late for work and came up with a story that she'd been mugged on her way to work.( When she was mugged on her way to work for a 2nd time the manager asked her for the police reference number, it never materialised). Amazingly her cancer victim story guilt tripped a couple of blokes into sleeping with her too. To excuse all her lying with the label of Munchausens just doesn't seem right.

 

[Alyce]

Public gallery react to verdict

Whisperings of ‘yes’ in the public gallery as the verdicts were read out. Sentencing will take place tomorrow morning.

 

[scandinavian girl]

Yes!!!! and now I will try to breath

 

[icemaiden65]

Crying here - and I bet loads of you are too! Guilty on ALL counts - result and justice for Helen and Boris!! xx

 

[Cherwell]

Great job. They have been seen to take their time, so nobody can say they have not given it due deliberation.

 

[DollyDiamond]

Hurrah!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[TheRisenBishop]

Ha! Ha! LozDa dropped the Trump bomb, love it!

The Munchhausens discussion earlier was interesting. I have never been convinced by suggestions IS has some kind of mental illness that explains Helen's drugging. To my mind his 'condition' whatever name it has, is entirely conscious, ruthless and self serving. This view was confirmed to me when he took the stand. The only aspect of his conduct that surprised me, was that at no point was this cunning individual able to fake any affection for Helen. This was the crunch point where his psychopathy let him down.

The more I think about it, the more I believe IS not only didn't love or like Helen, he actively hated her, as evidenced by the contempt with which he treated her body.

Most psychopaths (and there are a lot of them around), would have married Helen for her money and either tolerated her company in a loveless marriage, or divorced her for a fast buck. Many people (mostly women - your mention of Trump seems fitting here), pay a high price for marrying a millionaire and are willing to endure it for the material rewards and lifestyle. Not Ian Stewart. He wasn't willing to tolerate Helen's company a moment longer than he had to. He wasn't going to play the role of loving husband, escort Helen to public functions, sit down to home cooked meals with her, walk the dog, go on holidays to Majorca together etc etc. He killed her before he even had to put a ring on her finger.

There's a sequence I can't get out of my mind. I have a vision of Helen and IS retiring to bed on the evening of Sunday 10th April, her last night on this earth. They snuggled down together under the green duvet, Boris snoozing in his basket nearby. She gives IS a kiss and says "Night love". Roll forward 24 hours and IS is lying in that same bed, alone, and we all know where Helen and Boris lie.

There is no mental illness here, only ruthless, cold blooded evil and he needs to be behind bars for the rest of his life.

This is an astute assessment - couldn't agree more! As you say everything screams personality disorder rather than some form of mental illness. All of those criteria for MS or MBP are common traits of Personality Disorders and as its already been pointed out, where they fall in terms of diagnosis is dependent on the underlying psychology and the motivation therein.

 

[Duchy]

The verdicts for all six charges are in

Count 1 - murder - guilty

Count 2 - fraud - guilty

Count 3 - perverting a lawful burial - guilty

Count 4 - perverting the course of justice - guilty

Count 5 - perverting course of justice - guilty

Count 6 - perverting the course of justice - guilty

 

[ColourPurple]

OMG you can gurantee that if I get distracted the verdict will be announced!!!


Guilty!!!

Halle feckin lujah!!!!


:fireworks2:

 

[Alyce]

Ah...a final shake of the head, before he is taken away to oblivion !


Stewart's reaction

Stewart could be seen shaking his head in the dock as he was found guilty of all the charges against him.



Have taken the liberty of correcting Tara's words there, we know what she meant

 

[KarenUK]

GREAT NEWS! :jail:

 

[jessie]

YEEESSSSS !!! I just got home 5 minutes ago, just in time. ! I had no doubt if they found him guilty of murder, he had to be found guilty on all other charges too. Well done jury.

 

[snoopydog]

Ah...a final shake of the head, before he is taken away to oblivion !


Stewart's reaction

Stewart could be seen shaking his dock in the head as he was found guilty of all the charges against him.

Hahahaha good.


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[Alyce]

Judge discharges the jury

The jurors in this case, five women and seven men, are being exempt from jury service for the next 10 years.

 

[Duchy]

[video=twitter;834377041646587904]https://twitter.com/domreynolds/status/834377041646587904[/video]

 

[Cherwell]

Sentencing will take place tomorrow morning.

Longing to hear what the Judge has to say to this piece of filth.

 

[Really?]

:happydance:.......yayayayayayayayayayayayaya.....wooooooooooot !

 

[Alyce]

Tara Cox‏@TaraCoxCN 2m2 minutes ago

Ian Stewart will be sentenced at St Albans Crown Court tomorrow after being found guilty of murdering Royston author Helen Bailey

 

[looroll]

Justice for Helen and Boris

Such a massive relief x