GUILTY UK - Joanna Yeates, 25, Clifton, Bristol, 17 Dec 2010 #15
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at the very least you wanted to cause her serious harm and you did 'i wanted to kill her yes'
I got excited there but Rupert's been back to correct it, says it's should have been 'kiss' not 'kill' . Damn! Thought Tabak had caved in there!
at the very least you wanted to cause her serious harm and you did 'i wanted to kill her yes'
I got excited there but Rupert's been back to correct it, says it's should have been 'kiss' not 'kill' . Damn! Thought Tabak had caved in there!
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Yes, funny how he is quite definite about no sexual arousal, no pulling her clothes up, nothing happening on the floor yet he can't remember how she "beckoned" him into the flat.
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Tabak says he can't remember the exact time he had his hands around Joanna's throat, or where she fell.
Tabak says there is no truth in suggestions that he wanted to sexually assault Joanna and that he thought she wanted to kiss him.
Mr Clegg is going through Tabak's defence statement and asking if it is true. Tabak says it is.
Clegg:" Whose decision about the amount of detail in the statement. Yours or the lawyers?." " The lawyers," says Tabak.
Clegg: " Did you intend to kill Joanna Yeates," VT:" No I didn't"
Tabak trial adjourned for 20 minutes. The next witness will be a pathologist acting for the defence.
Tabak says he can't remember the exact time he had his hands around Joanna's throat, or where she fell.
Tabak says there is no truth in suggestions that he wanted to sexually assault Joanna and that he thought she wanted to kiss him.
Mr Clegg is going through Tabak's defence statement and asking if it is true. Tabak says it is.
Clegg:" Whose decision about the amount of detail in the statement. Yours or the lawyers?." " The lawyers," says Tabak.
Clegg: " Did you intend to kill Joanna Yeates," VT:" No I didn't"
Tabak trial adjourned for 20 minutes. The next witness will be a pathologist acting for the defence.
Go 'way, VT! A thirty-something with a PhD can't figure that one out? Couldn't figure it out as he was watching the girl dying while he was squeezing her neck? Whatever.
Same here.
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Well, surely nobody is going to believe a word Tabak says after that display.
Now as to the injuries. Carey is going to say some of them were caused by freezing, I guess. I wouldn't like to pass any comment on this because obviously the jury have seen the photographs and we haven't.
Now as to the injuries. Carey is going to say some of them were caused by freezing, I guess. I wouldn't like to pass any comment on this because obviously the jury have seen the photographs and we haven't.
This reminds me of working in a kindergarten:
"It wasn't me, she made me do it, they said so and they're all lying!"
I knew I heard his type of excuses in a completely different environment (and thankfully different circumstances).
And Mr. Clegg knows that very well; yet, if the tweeted reports are correct, he was rabbiting on yesterday about premeditation, planning and intent, all together in one sentence as if they were all required for murder.
Summary of defence questions to VT following Prosecution Cross examination
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Cross examination over. Tabak now being questioned again by his defence QC
He doesnt remember if he held her to the wall. But he denies he held her on the floor. He says they were standing up.
Defence going through VT's final statement to police, line by line. In it, he admits killing Jo. VT confirms THIS statement is "true"
Tabak has a copy of this statement in front of him. He covers his mouth answering "true" to every line his lawyer reads back to him.
Tabak questioning over. Short break. Then pathologist Dr Nat Carey.
Richard Payne
Clegg: reading statement of night Jo Yeates died and Tabak's movements.
Greg Reardon, arms folded, looking straight at Tabak now as Tabak says 'true' many times to statement he didn't intend to kill
Clegg: did you intend to kill Miss Yeates? Tabak: No, I didn't. Clegg: Did you intend to cause her any serious harm? Tabak: No, I didn't.
Tabak questioning over. 20 mins break then pathologist Dr Nat Carey.
Jon Kay
Cross examination over. Tabak now being questioned again by his defence QC
He doesnt remember if he held her to the wall. But he denies he held her on the floor. He says they were standing up.
Defence going through VT's final statement to police, line by line. In it, he admits killing Jo. VT confirms THIS statement is "true"
Tabak has a copy of this statement in front of him. He covers his mouth answering "true" to every line his lawyer reads back to him.
Tabak questioning over. Short break. Then pathologist Dr Nat Carey.
Richard Payne
Clegg: reading statement of night Jo Yeates died and Tabak's movements.
Greg Reardon, arms folded, looking straight at Tabak now as Tabak says 'true' many times to statement he didn't intend to kill
Clegg: did you intend to kill Miss Yeates? Tabak: No, I didn't. Clegg: Did you intend to cause her any serious harm? Tabak: No, I didn't.
Tabak questioning over. 20 mins break then pathologist Dr Nat Carey.
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Is he? We were wondering about that on here yesterday. Can you point us to any examples?
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Defence questions to VT following Prosecution Cross examination
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Mr Clegg is going through Tabak's defence statement and asking if it is true. Tabak says it is.
Clegg:" Whose decision about the amount of detail in the statement. Yours or the lawyers?." " The lawyers," says Tabak.
Clegg: " Did you intend to kill Joanna Yeates," VT:" No I didn't"
Tabak trial adjourned for 20 minutes. The next witness will be a pathologist acting for the defence.
Rupert Evelyn
Lickley QC has now finished his questioning. Bill Clegg QC for defence now putting questions to Tabak
various theories have been put to you over what happened. How long was it you had your hand around her throat? 'can't exactly remember'
when you went to kiss her did you think she would be receptive? 'i thought she was willing to kiss me yes'
Defence ask Tabak if he intened to kill? 'no i'didn't said' says VT
Court rises for 20 minutes. The next witness will be Dr Carey
Skynewsgatherer
Mr Clegg is going through Tabak's defence statement and asking if it is true. Tabak says it is.
Clegg:" Whose decision about the amount of detail in the statement. Yours or the lawyers?." " The lawyers," says Tabak.
Clegg: " Did you intend to kill Joanna Yeates," VT:" No I didn't"
Tabak trial adjourned for 20 minutes. The next witness will be a pathologist acting for the defence.
Rupert Evelyn
Lickley QC has now finished his questioning. Bill Clegg QC for defence now putting questions to Tabak
various theories have been put to you over what happened. How long was it you had your hand around her throat? 'can't exactly remember'
when you went to kiss her did you think she would be receptive? 'i thought she was willing to kiss me yes'
Defence ask Tabak if he intened to kill? 'no i'didn't said' says VT
Court rises for 20 minutes. The next witness will be Dr Carey
On the issue of Rupert Evelyn typing kill instead of kiss
@rupertevelyn was it predicive text or finger error? I am always hitting the wrong keys on my phone.
@soundgirl64 it was more mental mistake on my behalf. I'm not a stenographer so as you can imagine there is an issue of keeping up
@rupertevelyn was it predicive text or finger error? I am always hitting the wrong keys on my phone.
@soundgirl64 it was more mental mistake on my behalf. I'm not a stenographer so as you can imagine there is an issue of keeping up
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I found quite a few cases of his on the net. He seems quiet lenient with minors but tough on adults. He had given a 30 minimum with no chance of parole before
My heart goes out to him. I hope he's got some serious support to help him deal with this and that he doesn't quietly do anything daft after it's all over. Having one's partner murdered like this marks one for life.
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Dr Carey is a forensic pathologist. He is being questioned by Bill Clegg QC
Carey says he as extensive experience of neck compression cases
Carey also has experience of sexually motivated homocide
@jonkay01
Dr Carey says he has extensive experience of manual strangulation cases - Inc Soham and Ipswich murders.
Dr Carey is a forensic pathologist. He is being questioned by Bill Clegg QC
Carey says he as extensive experience of neck compression cases
Carey also has experience of sexually motivated homocide
@jonkay01
Dr Carey says he has extensive experience of manual strangulation cases - Inc Soham and Ipswich murders.
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Back in session.
skynewsgatherer
Dr Nathaniel Carey called to the witness box.
rupertevelyn
Carey says he is giving expert evidence
Carey says he as extensive experience of neck compression cases
skynewsgatherer
Jury hears Dr Carey's extensive experience. He has been giving evidence in last couple of weeks of 2 other cases of "neck compression"
rupertevelyn
Carey also has experience of sexually motivated homocide
skynewsgatherer
Dr Nathaniel Carey called to the witness box.
rupertevelyn
Carey says he is giving expert evidence
Carey says he as extensive experience of neck compression cases
skynewsgatherer
Jury hears Dr Carey's extensive experience. He has been giving evidence in last couple of weeks of 2 other cases of "neck compression"
rupertevelyn
Carey also has experience of sexually motivated homocide
Dr Nathaniel Carey called to the witness box
Forensic pathologist Dr Nat Carey giving evidence now. He is outlining his qualifications and experience.
Carey says he as extensive experience of neck compression cases
Jury hears Dr Carey's extensive experience. He has been giving evidence in last couple of weeks of 2 other cases of "neck compression"
Forensic pathologist Nat Carey now giving evidence at Vincent Tabak's trial. He's been called by the defence.
Forensic pathologist Dr Nat Carey giving evidence now. He is outlining his qualifications and experience.
Carey says he as extensive experience of neck compression cases
Jury hears Dr Carey's extensive experience. He has been giving evidence in last couple of weeks of 2 other cases of "neck compression"
Forensic pathologist Nat Carey now giving evidence at Vincent Tabak's trial. He's been called by the defence.
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