UK - Logan Mwangi, 5, found dead in Wales River, Bridgend, 31 July 2021 *arrests, inc. minor* #2

[Cherwell]

Again, I’m no expert, but seems to me big flags were being missed.

It sounds to me, from comments made here, that social services are powerless to deal with such vile little turds.

 

[HongKongPhooey]

It sounds to me, from comments made here, that social services are powerless to deal with such vile little turds.

You’ll get splinters on that fence

 

[Skigh]

It sounds to me, from comments made here, that social services are powerless to deal with such vile little turds.

But if someone used the wrong pronoun ,social services would be bringing out all their resources to condemn the guilty.

 

[BabaVanga]

But it someone used the wrong pronoun ,social services would be bringing out all their resources to condemn the guilty.

10000%

 

[Skigh]

Overview.

Boy, 14, accused of Logan Mwangi murder 'threatened to kill foster family after watching The Purge' | Daily Mail Online

 

[Alyce]

15:25Jason Evans

Social worker says 'not aware' of youth making threats

The witness is being asked about evidence from the teenager’s foster care family put before the jury this morning in which they said he had threatened to kill them, threats they said they reported to the social worker at the time. The witness denies she was told about the threats.


Youth accused of murdering boy, 5, had 'desire for violence' , jury told

 

[Alyce]

15:47Jason Evans


John Hipkin QC begins cross-examination
Barrister John Hipkin QC, for the youth defendant, asks the social worker whether anyone who spent time with the teenager would see that he would "say, shout, even sometimes sing things which were "designed to provoke, to get a rise out of people" - the witness agrees that is the case.

The barrister asks whether the teenager could be "aggravating" or annoying in a physical sense such as poking or kicking - again the witness says yes, adding that sometimes when he was travelling in the back seat of her car, for example, he would pull the seat belt.

The court hears the teenager was originally taken into care after allegedly suffering a "serious assault" at the hands of his mother.


Youth accused of murdering boy, 5, had 'desire for violence' , jury told

 

[Alyce]

But if someone used the wrong pronoun ,social services would be bringing out all their resources to condemn the guilty.

Absolutely, probably go to tribunal and compensation would be paid

 

[Alyce]

Snipped from above ...........


The court hears the teenager was originally taken into care after allegedly suffering a "serious assault" at the hands of his mother.


Just when you think it can't get any worse

 

[Alyce]

16:14Jason Evans

Distressed

The next person to give evidence this afternoon is Darren Caisley, a long-standing friend of the defendant John Cole. In response to questions from prosecution barrister Carline Rees QC he tells the jury he has known Cole for more than 30 years, and had helped him move to south Wales from Coventry. He says they kept in touch "on and off", and that he would pop in to see him when he could as he went to visit his mother-in-law in Devon.

He says on the morning of August 1 Cole rang him to ask if he had seen the news - the witness says he hadn’t as he had been away for the weekend. He says Cole told him that a boy had been found in the river, and that the boy had been his stepson Logan.

Asked about how Cole was on the phone, Mr Caisley says he was "distraught and distressed".



Youth accused of murdering boy, 5, had 'desire for violence' , jury told

 

[Skigh]

15:25Jason Evans

Social worker says 'not aware' of youth making threats

The witness is being asked about evidence from the teenager’s foster care family put before the jury this morning in which they said he had threatened to kill them, threats they said they reported to the social worker at the time. The witness denies she was told about the threats.


Youth accused of murdering boy, 5, had 'desire for violence' , jury told

I cannot imagine the foster parents would not report the threats to social services, so feel the social worker is not a reliable witness.

 

[HongKongPhooey]

I cannot imagine the foster parents would not report the threats to social services, so feel the social worker is not a reliable witness.

I would like to ask the social worker, why did the family ask for the boy to be moved in that case?

 

[nothinonyou]

not excusing his behaviour but being assaulted by his mother, being sent to foster parents and being sent from family to family it seems like, this boy must have felt very unloved and like no one cared about his existence. Whereas by all accounts Logan was cherished and was a happy boy, he would have resented this. Must have made him jealous and angry

 

[Dotta]

I cannot imagine the foster parents would not report the threats to social services, so feel the social worker is not a reliable witness.

That is why all complaints should be in written form via official channels.

 

[HongKongPhooey]

That is why all complaints should be in written form via official channels.

I would hope it was. I can’t see them removing a child without a formal process of some kind. One of our fellow posters may know more.

 

[ChloLo]

I cannot imagine the foster parents would not report the threats to social services, so feel the social worker is not a reliable witness.

I suspect this will be because the social worker is new (relevant term - the latest social worker assigned to the case) and when there is a complex case or lots of documents then everything doesn’t get read, bits get missed and it can like starting from scratch.

Also to the average person these are glaring red flags. To someone who works with difficult/troubled or whatever word you want to use teens, would this be a bit more normalised. Do social workers become by the nature of the job a bit desensitised?

 

[Alyce]

I would hope it was. I can’t see them removing a child without a formal process of some kind. One of our fellow posters may know more.

Bound to be multiple forms for such a procedure.

 

[Dotta]

I would hope it was. I can’t see them removing a child without a formal process of some kind. One of our fellow posters may know more.

So how come the social worker said in court that she never heard of the threats?

 

[Alyce]

Adding the link again for anyone who wants to just read the testimony


Youth accused of murdering boy, 5, had 'desire for violence' , jury told

 

[Sooty]

Thanks for the updates Alyce