UK- Major incident declared in Southport after multiple stabbings, 29 July 2024

[seasideForest]

I’m local and the “protest” outside the mosque was being organised on social media on Monday evening - I was reporting posts on FB and X for hate speech. It had absolutely zero to do with the man arrested during the vigil on Tuesday night who was in possession of a flick knife, not wielding it.

The violence was arranged on the day of the attack and the majority of the people involved were not local. I’m not saying local yobs didn’t join in, but it had nothing to do with the vigil or the arrest as suggested.

Thanks for posting. It's good to hear a local speaking up.

 

[sunspun]

Perhaps because it is an ongoing investigation; what if information released results in subjudice in a court case? They must also tread carefully whenever a minor is involved.

I'd like to see the case go forward to court without all these distractions that have absolutely nothing to do with the case.

MOO

So do all cases not go into subjudice at some point? What determines which do or don't? (American here, where AFAIK, we don't have that... unless it's similar to what we'd call a gag order.)

 

[MrsWatson]

So do all cases not go into subjudice at some point? What determines which do or don't? (American here, where AFAIK, we don't have that... unless it's similar to what we'd call a gag order.)

The rule applies from the moment a charge has been made in a criminal case or a claim has been issued in a civil proceeding until the matter is resolved or the trial concluded. The doctrine is particularly stringent with regards to media coverage; there are strict limitations on what journalists can report about a case in progress, as biased reporting could sway the opinions of potential jurors and threaten the impartiality of the trial process.


From

Sub Judice, What Is It And What Does It Mean?

What does Sub judice mean? A clear explanation of the legal term Sub judice, with examples and context.

www.vocabulaw.co.uk

 

[Cryptic]

A significant portion of X still don't believe he isn't a Muslim or that he's only 17 and that's even with knowing his name.

That is so frustrating.

The criminal's background is Rwandan- a country with a very significant Christian majority. There does not appear to be any evidence that the attack was religiously motivated and perpetrated by a convert.

As a result, statistics dictate that the perpetrator is very likely..... Christian.

 

[Dotta]

As a result, statistics dictate that the perpetrator is very likely..... Christian.

IMO
Religion has NOTHING to do with this repugnant crime.

But twisted mind of the alleged murderer of innocent children.

JMO

 

[QB2022]

So do all cases not go into subjudice at some point? What determines which do or don't? (American here, where AFAIK, we don't have that... unless it's similar to what we'd call a gag order.)

They are effectively gagged from the start. It's why we often only really find out just how heinous some crimes or or thr motivations or anything about the attsckers once they've been found guilty.

The big question mark with this one will be whether he pleads straight guilty or non-guilty on grounds of diminished responsibility.

 

[JennieM]

Southport stabbing suspect Axel Rudakubana starred in BBC advert

EXCLUSIVE: Footage unearthed by MailOnline shows Axel Rudakubana, then aged 11, emerging from the Tardis in David Tennant's trademark trenchcoat and tie

www.dailymail.co.uk

The teenager accused of stabbing three little girls to death once starred as Doctor Who for a Children in Need promotional video for the BBC, MailOnline can reveal.

Axel Rudakubana wore a brown trench coat and tie as he emerged from the Tardis for a 2018 BBC fundraising clip.

The now 17-year-old starred alongside four child actors dressed as other incarnations of the Doctor for the promo called 'It's time to do your thing'.

The BBC and the child talent agency who had employed him both deleted the video today as the association emerged.

[…]

The video is understood to have been shot on location in nearby Blackpool in early 2018.

The talent agency - which is co-run by Laura Beckford, wife of former Everton footballer Jermaine Beckford, and her older brother Andrew - declined to comment, but managers are understood to be ‘very upset’ at learning of the association.

The agency last night deleted a series of Facebook posts about Axel's budding acting career.

One promoting the video read: 'Look out for Ology superstar Axel in the new promo for Children In Need!!'.

 

[JennieM]

Did he want notoriety and his 15 minutes? Taylor Swift to know who he is and us to be talking about him?

 

[worldwatcher]

Southport stabbing suspect Axel Rudakubana starred in BBC advert

EXCLUSIVE: Footage unearthed by MailOnline shows Axel Rudakubana, then aged 11, emerging from the Tardis in David Tennant's trademark trenchcoat and tie

www.dailymail.co.uk

The teenager accused of stabbing three little girls to death once starred as Doctor Who for a Children in Need promotional video for the BBC, MailOnline can reveal.

Axel Rudakubana wore a brown trench coat and tie as he emerged from the Tardis for a 2018 BBC fundraising clip.

The now 17-year-old starred alongside four child actors dressed as other incarnations of the Doctor for the promo called 'It's time to do your thing'.

The BBC and the child talent agency who had employed him both deleted the video today as the association emerged.

[…]

The video is understood to have been shot on location in nearby Blackpool in early 2018.

The talent agency - which is co-run by Laura Beckford, wife of former Everton footballer Jermaine Beckford, and her older brother Andrew - declined to comment, but managers are understood to be ‘very upset’ at learning of the association.

The agency last night deleted a series of Facebook posts about Axel's budding acting career.

One promoting the video read: 'Look out for Ology superstar Axel in the new promo for Children In Need!!'.

That must be devastating for the families of the murdered girls and those victims, wich he brutally attacked
To know he was a promotor BBC "for children in need"
<modsnip>

 

[pokerowan]

That must be devastating for the families of the murdered girls and those victims, wich he brutally attacked
To know he was a promotor BBC "for children in need"
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<modsnip - following refers to the fact that the BBC removed the video>. The promo features other children, given the wild speculation and online investigaton of other unrelated parties I think this is probably to protect other parties who may have been on camera with the suspect.

 

[cottonweaver]

A source at the corporation said: ‘Children in Need has no relationship to Axel Rudakubana.

'The individual was contracted by the BBC for the campaign video through a casting agency in 2018 and has never had an affiliation with any of our funded projects.’

A BBC Children in Need spokesperson: 'Our deepest sympathies go out to everyone impacted by this shocking case, and we have removed the video from all of our platforms out of respect to them.'

Southport stabbing suspect Axel Rudakubana starred in BBC advert

EXCLUSIVE: Footage unearthed by MailOnline shows Axel Rudakubana, then aged 11, emerging from the Tardis in David Tennant's trademark trenchcoat and tie

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[QB2022]

I don't think this was about taylor swift. I think it was about what she represents and what the class represented. I think this was personal and he was seeking vengeance.

 

[Dotta]

He went for the most vulnerable IMO.

It made him feel powerful for a moment.
Because in his life he felt powerless.

But it is only my view.

 

[martinwatts5]

Riots are still happening this evening. Misinformation on social media about the Southport stabbings cannot be the reason for it now. Are these attacks on the police more to do with the events in Manchester?

 

[bobbymkii]

(For lack of a better term)

VIBES

2011 England riots - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Dotta]

​

"Sunderland police station has been ransacked and set on fire,
as far right yobs took to the streets of Britain.

Flames were seen engulfing the central police office on Waterloo Place as rioters were seen overturning tables and furniture inside."

Protesters let off flares in Sunderland amid fears of fresh riot wave

Protesters overturned a car before setting it alight in Sunderland town centre, while other yobs sprayed fire extinguisher foam and threw bricks at armed police officers, and smashed a bus shelter.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[JennieM]

Grief, hate and healing: Southport picks up the pieces after week of horror

Residents attempt to come to terms with fatal stabbing of three young girls and violent riots that followed

Grief, hate and healing: Southport picks up the pieces after week of horror

Residents attempt to come to terms with fatal stabbing of three young girls and violent riots that followed

www.theguardian.com

 

[Lucy6226]

Absolute morons rioting for the sack of rioting imo, nothing to do with these murders or the killers religion....although agree with others the likelihood is that he is Christian anyways. It's just mob mentality like with the past riots that went on and on imo.

 

[QB2022]

Riots are still happening this evening. Misinformation on social media about the Southport stabbings cannot be the reason for it now. Are these attacks on the police more to do with the events in Manchester?

At this stage they are all just trying to out do each other with a very thinly veiled justification using southport. They should be absolutely ashamed of themselves for using 3 dead little kids to attempt to justify their mindless, yobbish, disgusting behaviour.

 

[dotr]

''Aug 2, 2024 #skynews #politics #southport
Police chiefs have promised to boost police presence this weekend in response to protests over the Southport attack. There is evidence of at least 15 rallies advertised online, some calling for participants to take England flags and a number containing phrases such as "enough is enough", "save our kids" or "stop the boats".

Aug 2, 2024