Found Deceased UK - Nicola Bulley Last Seen Walking Dog Near River - St Michaels on Wyre (Lancashire) #13

[Springplease]

2nd Q - was she wearing a headset
Reply - No she was not

3rd Q Ironbrige to the school - there is no cctv ( this is why we have been asking for dash cam - Garstang Road)

4th How many of the 700+ cars ( who have dash cam)
A - cannot give you exact number, still being viewed. No sightings on the dash cams we've reviewed so far

Except iron bridge to school is Blackpool Lane

 

[Firstsnow4]

I agree, i had a mental breakdown when I was 27, i very little recollection of that time, thankfully. If you are in such a bad way nothing is rational or logical.

I’m so sorry. Same here about 5 years ago now. I wasn’t in control of my mind at all - it was telling me to do things and I was visualising suicide. But the thoughts were scaring the life out of me and I was worried that my mind would tell me to do it. Even now I can’t explain it. You really don’t know unless you have been there imo.

 

[sriraaacha]

God I feel so bad for Paul. Whatever has happened, I bet he blames himself every day for her disappearance.

 

[Dowls90]

'She would never have left her children/dog' 'She was so happy' these comments make it quite clear how little people understand about mental illness. People do leave their children and their dogs, families and they do take their lives. Which is why suicide is such a tragedy. Imo

I understand a lot about mental illness. I also have training within my workplace to support our employees.

My comment surrounding her partners comments regarding never leaving Willow alone like that stuck with me because if he was aware of vulnerabilities surrounding mental illness he wouldn't have said the things he was saying.

 

[GML1981]

I wonder if Nicola was suffering from terminal illness and they hadn’t told the girls, why is why the family wouldn’t want to make it public that she had vulnerabilities? She did look very gaunt in the stills that were released.
Just my musings.
Poor Nicola and family.

 

[cottonweaver]

Except iron bridge to school is Blackpool Lane

yes my paraphrasing not her exact words

she added that this relates to the continuous appeals for cars for dash cam driving thru the village including Garstang or wtte ( I don't have exact wording)

 

[pumpkinn]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1625815434153934849

On the first page it mentions counter terrorism officers searching on land. Is this just referring to their search experience/ thoroughness as opposed to their specialist? No possibility that terror is involved?

 

[cress_sleuth]

JMO
Haven't posted for a while.
Something I keep thinking, again, JMO

PA in his most recent interview is too calm and relaxed to be worrying about his partner who has MH vunerabilities.

I'm sure I've heard police and family state when someone has 'low moods' or is 'suicidal'... If it was medication, it would be the same.

SO....

PA claims he and her family's gut reaction from the start is that it was foul play and a third party (his words in the interview) and 100% something or someone in the village..........

What if, NB not posting online was due to someone pestering her online. Online trolling and threats. All of which had been reported to police.

The moment PA heard the dog had been found "his world dropped out".... what if he suddenly thought "the threats! someone's got her"

THAT would explain him calling 999 so quickly. there was already an ongoing issues........

It could also explain why police so frustrated with SM and things being written there, because it's distracting when that is just as much a crime scene being investigated than the bench, fields and river.

All of this pure speculation and JMO

 

[pineapple23]

Didn't PA infer that someone local must know what happened? I'm not sure how that fits with being deemed vulnerable and high risk.

 

[Bluesleuth66]

Jut adding my further opinion and not wishing to get macabre or conspiratorial, but the insurance implications of accident vs suicide are divergent.

 

[Teabag57]

I still don't understand why they haven't released any CCTV footage showing NB in the area.

I was hoping they would have clarified in the presser whether they had any or not. And when it wasn’t clear, I was then hoping someone would ask the question on whether there is ANY camera footage of her in the area that morning.

<quoted post was removed for rumor>

 

[Enigmacode]

Someone I know took his life during lockdown and as he had left the house stating his intentions, it caused a huge search by all the local people, police and search and rescue and was widely publicised. He wasn't found for weeks despite being very close to home.

However, I personally don't think NB took her life.

Sorry to hear that. But at least there was some indication of his intent.

I don't think she took her own life either. But maybe those 'vulnerabilities' the SIO referred to were her intentions? JMO

To be honest, I thought that was a very strange press conference. It's been previously reported that PA was not happy with the police investigation to date. Also that he approached them to do a joint press conference, which the police didn't permit.

Which is strange, I don't see why they would look to stop PA from being part of the appeal, unless the police have drawn their own conclusion, in spite of having not located NB.

"According to a report by Manchester Evening News, Mr Ansell, 44, is dissatisfied with the progress being made and has asked officers to broaden their search for Nicola. He allegedly did not receive a response to his request to hold a joint press conference with police last week."

Nicola Bulley's partner frustrated with police, says expert

The search for Nicola continues

www.nottinghampost.com

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[Dowls90]

JMO
Haven't posted for a while.
Something I keep thinking, again, JMO

PA in his most recent interview is too calm and relaxed to be worrying about his partner who has MH vunerabilities.

I'm sure I've heard police and family state when someone has 'low moods' or is 'suicidal'... If it was medication, it would be the same.

SO....

PA claims he and her family's gut reaction from the start is that it was foul play and a third party (his words in the interview) and 100% something or someone in the village..........

What if, NB not posting online was due to someone pestering her online. Online trolling and threats. All of which had been reported to police.

The moment PA heard the dog had been found "his world dropped out".... what if he suddenly thought "the threats! someone's got her"

THAT would explain him calling 999 so quickly. there was already an ongoing issues........

It could also explain why police so frustrated with SM and things being written there, because it's distracting when that is just as much a crime scene being investigated than the bench, fields and river.

All of this pure speculation and JMO

If that was the case, they wouldn't have come to the current working hypothesis of no 3rd party involvement surely?

 

[Liverpool86]

I guess someone who wanted to end things might go off to a quiet place with some pills?

It takes a lot longer than 10 minutes to be overcome by pills. Assuming that it’s prescribed meds or OTC meds. She would have had to take them beforehand and would have started to have been affected. There’s been no mention of her acting strangely by witnesses and the fact that she was doing regular things such as being the logged into a work call and able enough to drop her children off and walk her dog. Taking pills to location or before seems highly unlikely IMO

 

[cottonweaver]

The police are right not to give any further details but it's obvious that now there will be a feeding frenzy on SM to try and find out more

That goes without saying imo

Possible the family might release it themselves?

Also , friend of family said that, even before today, some tabloid reporters were trying to track down NB's old school friends even though these were friends she'd not seen c30 years

 

[Enigmacode]

I remember someone quoting that Nicola would "do anything for that dog." I very much doubt she would choose to leave it alone in the field. If she wanted to take her own life there are numerous ways to go about it without it affecting the safety of a dog which she treated "like a third child."

100% agree

 

[Furore]

Oh sure, I agree. I'm slightly wondering why they mentioned them at all, unless it was to hint at suicide (or perhaps a medical incident associated with an illness or pregnancy) without wanting to state that explicitly. Of course, that itself is speculation!

I think it’s an attempt to assure the public that there are very good reasons they believe is in the river and not been abducted, but can’t break confidentiality.

 

[sriraaacha]

Didn't PA infer that someone local must know what happened? I'm not sure how that fits with being deemed vulnerable and high risk.

The only thing that came to my mind was that since he believed she wasn't in the river, he either thought it was an abduction or she left of her own accord, so maybe he thought if she just walked out, she might be with friends/somebody else she knows locally or nearby and they might know something if she'd contacted them? That's the only way I could make sense of it imo.

 

[Mr X]

On the first page it mentions counter terrorism officers searching on land. Is this just referring to their search experience/ thoroughness as opposed to their specialist? No possibility that terror is involved?

It did cross my mind that known vulnerabilities could include things like previous death threats. Having said that does someone who has been subjected to this sort of thing go out for walks in isolated places by themselves? I would have thought you would alter your behaviour if you were being threatened by someone.

 

[zellner]

I’m reluctant to go into detail but it happens. A good swimmer, assuming they don’t have a cardiac condition, can swim in very cold water for a minute or so until they fail to swim, at which point it’s too late to rescue yourself.

The aforementioned Sally Allan was also reported as a strong swimmer and walked all the way to the Tyne. I always wondered how the person would resist the urge to fight, but as you say, the cold water would soon render limbs unable to function.