Found Deceased UK - Nicola Bulley Last Seen Walking Dog Near River - St Michaels on Wyre (Lancashire) #14

[ayrshireguy]

Ones I can think of:

• Had planned it ahead of time and had supplies stored somewhere
• Has someone who she is staying with/some assistance from someone
• Is living amongst the homeless population somewhere
• She didn't wonder off with the intent of living (Is what my prediction of the sad eventual outcome will be)

A good question! (finally)

IMO she would have to be kept indoors/on private property
and/or moved in a vehicle between those properties

there is a LOT of CCTV here in the UK

Yep, not impossible but quite difficult without logistics pre-planned and possibly someone to help or stay with.

 

[Lilbitcurious]

So IF NB has wandered off, how is she able to stay 'off grid'?

I haven’t seen any info regarding bank accounts/passport etc has anybody? Maybe like I said she has a “go to” JMO

 

[karakuchi]

I haven’t seen any info regarding bank accounts/passport etc has anybody? Maybe like I said she has a “go to” JMO

It's the UK, you can drive into Europe in a van.
Sure, they check - but if it's organised crime...
How do you think the huge amounts of recreational drugs get in?

IMO

 

[Awaywego]

I don’t believe it is a red herring but I agree with your post otherwise.
I think that this Peri Menopause information release can also be turned into a positive for other women who are struggling but because it’s still a subject that is not really recognised by wider society as a problem for SOME women, not all, it may help them to see just how much people do understand and to come forth and speak out, seek help without embarrassment of being judged .

The menopause has been life changing for me and not in a good way . There have been days when I too have felt like seriously walking away from my overwhelming life, after feeling so debilitated by the many symptoms of the menopause that i have been suffering since age 39 and I’m now almost 53 and it’s still not over .

Yes totally. I really hope that it helps with understanding more generally in society. I'm only reflecting that I've had 25 years of chronic illness which has taken so much of my life and been so hard to deal with emotionally and that has led me to some very difficult places, if I went missing it would certainly be relevant context too but might have been less anger if that information had been released publicly, but who's to say, it's maybe more to do with the perceived timing and that it unfortunately threw fuel ontop of a speculation fire.

 

[EyeSpyU]

I searched and couldn't find this mentioned before.
Could the water bottle she was carrying that morning be a clue that she was planning on taking an overdose?

I doubt it. If she took an overdose where would she have gone? She never left the field.

Of course, you’ll now get those who will suggest it wasn’t a water bottle and was filled with alcohol instead. I actually don’t believe she was an alcoholic at all. She possibly had a couple of glasses of wine at night which some people could deem as being an alcoholic.

 

[ayrshireguy]

Supt Riley was not the SIO at the start, she was just a senior spokesperson.

Det Supt Rebecca Smith was SIO from the beginning

2 February 2023:

Senior investigating officer Detective Superintendent Rebecca Smith said that is "normal for a missing person with the information we were in possession of" - but refused to say what those vulnerabilities were.

Nicola Bulley: Nearly three weeks since dog walker vanished - what were her last movements before she disappeared?

Nearly three weeks since Nicola Bulley went missing police have said there remains no evidence there was a "criminal aspect or third party involvement" in her disappearance. Police also told a news conference that Ms Bulley was listed as a "high risk" missing person due to a "number of specific...

uk.news.yahoo.com

 

[Lilbitcurious]

It's the UK, you can drive into Europe in a van.
Sure, they check - but if it's organised crime...
How do you think the huge amounts of recreational drugs get in?

IMO

Usually by sea??

 

[DaFroome]

So IF NB has wandered off, how is she able to stay 'off grid'?

Accomplice/companion offering refuge.

I have a friend whose wife left for a period
Key elements-
Depression and Mental strain brought on by challenge of managing autistic son.
Elaborate exit meticulously planned with assistance from accomplice/companion.
Exit only after an evening of tidying and sorting kids to minimise burden on remaining parent.
No prior warning.
False reason given for going out for the evening.
No return, and then travel with accomplice/companion to another city.
Safe haven provided by accomplice/companion.
Eventual communication after many days.
Intention always to return after period of respite and escape.
Return.

Very plausible now in this case, but Willow is strong the pointer to accident IMO.

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

It's the UK, you can drive into Europe in a van.
Sure, they check - but if it's organised crime...
How do you think the huge amounts of recreational drugs get in?

IMO

After reading about the lifestyle of a well known British gangster and murderer in the UK tabloid press recently, it seems quite clear that people with connections can easily move around the globe and set up life in all sorts of unofficial ways.

 

[cottonweaver]

What Sally Riley said on Feb 3rd according to Times

I have just tried to find the article in the newspaper earlier that I read whereby the assistant chief constable was asked about this and the answer given was as I have said. I’m trying to respond to over 20 questions at the moment and I don’t have time to keep looking right now but go through todays daily newspapers and you will find it

No problem, I've just done it myself.
Here's what I read on Times front page this morning & I already wanted to check this quote myself.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1626002194737627138

Because media often paraphrase I just went to listen to what Riley actually said & it's on Feb 3rd presser. Depression wasn't mentioned. However it's worth listening to her full reply. It's around 16 minutes in In full: Police make statement on Nicola Bulley following her disappearance

Anyway, I do wonder, after checking, if there'd been some minimisation from F & F within the first few days of the investigation as to NB's state of mind, so that by Feb 3rd LE have not been given the full picture.

Be interested to know what others think because, we've just been told that Jan 10th is still being investigated. Within a few days of NB's disappearance, LE would have to have known there'd been an incident at the address ( basic checks) but by Feb 3rd ' clearly considered ' all of that but not relevant at this time.'
Was state of mind etc minimised? ( like many of you on WS am still baffled about what aspect of Jan 10 is still being investigated on 15 Feb altho obvs I appreciate I don't have a right to know the answer)

 

[Wishingwell]

So IF NB has wandered off, how is she able to stay 'off grid'?

I keep wondering this too.
The police initially mentioned that she had links to Thornton, Cleveleys but I can’t find what these links are? I could have missed something though.

 

[EyeSpyU]

Hi Tallmansix
I respectfully disagree.
This is a brief summary that I wrote earlier for another publication. I was limited to 1000 characters so I couldn’t put in as much as I wanted to say but it certainly gives you a different perspective, if you care to read it.

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As an SIO, I agree with this information released, albeit not the timing of it sadly.

It would be with the families consent to generate leads/sightings.

It's not a decision taken lightly,but it's been so long now, she is still missing and it's necessary as a last resort.

By publicising this ,it's a possibility that she's 'run' from her current life, overwhelmed, unable to cope, using alcohol to do so.

The public can now look for her with hope that she has walked away as opposed to unalived herself. We can be vigilant to try and find her ,wether that be on our streets, at alcohol establishments or even well women clinics and menopausal support groups.

As the Dive specialist said, it would have been better knowing this information from the start It alters the investigative strategy .

Personally, I find it unpalatable that this info has been released but I understand it's necessity in the absence of Nicola's whereabouts.

Every SIO has their own investigation style. Personally, I would have conducted this very differently to LanPol..

Sorry, but what do you mean by “unalived” herself?

 

[Coach]

I keep wondering this too.
The police initially mentioned that she had links to Thornton, Cleveleys but I can’t find what these links are? I could have missed something though.

How can someone stay off grid? In hiding with someone’s help. Look how long JD (canoe man) was hidden away living right next door in the adjoining property behind the wall..

 

[Awaywego]

I work in the NHS in an admin role. Yes indeed the Police can indeed do Welfare Checks on vulnerable/elderly folk. No sinister reason these checks are simply to make sure all is well, no falls or serious illness etc. In certain circumstances they can do a welfare check if a patient returns a very serious blood test result with potentially life-threatening implications and no one can get hold of them.

Yeah that makes sense. I've had them done for MH patients quite a bit in my job role over the years and also for a friend a couple of years ago who was very depressed, lived alone a few hours away from me, didn't turn up for a planned meeting and didn't respond to any attempts to contact. The police actually went twice to him, as he didn't answer for them the first time either. It's definitely a vv useful service..

 

[PS8800]

Exactly - no one who's going out of their mind with despair is gonna risk throwing themselves in a fairly shallow river (yes, we all know about the 'deep hole') because the main and very obvious problem with that is in 5 minutes time I'm gona be just down there, soaking wet and cold, my dog is prob gonna jump in with me, I'll be covered in mud, my hair will be all slimy, I might break my arm, there's probably weird water creatures in there and all kinds of germs, there might be broken glass or bits of sharp metal, my wellie boots will probably fall of, and I'll have to yell for someone to help, how embarrassing. This is how us women think, end of.

Especially those of us who walk along riversides or canal banks regularly - we know people fall in and get out again not actually die or anything (yes I know one guy died 45 years ago).

I guess this is how stable minded individuals think.

This is hard for me to share but here goes.
I went through a period in my late 20s living abroad of extreme loneliness and drinking to blackout point.
Now one day I woke up with a bad hangover, I took painkillers and my friend picked me up. I had a nap, woke up, took a different type of painkiller and got ready to go out and do it all over again.
We were in the pub and suddenly i had this very frightening sensation come over me that I had to find cold water to feel relief-I ran outside and it was about 30degrees +/- No water in sight. Panicked and ran back in, my only solution was the bathroom. I locked myself in a stall and then proceeded to soak my head and entire self using the hand held bidet shower thing-I flooded the ladies bathroom and walked out the bar soaked from head to toe.

To this day I cannot explain, how/why/where/ what. The pull for me to find a body of water to enter was so strong it completely took over everything else. Sense of danger gone, threat of embarrassment-I didnt care. I dont know if this was a combination of alcohol and mixing pain killers in combination with underlying poor mental health (i was also trying to leave an abusive relationship at the time)
If there had been a lake, river, sea whatever id have gone into it and I think about that everyday.
A previous post someone mentioned about folk heading for water and it being a strange phenomenon had me wanting to share earlier but I held off till now.
Ive shared this with few and even though it was more than 10yrs ago theres still some “shame” In what happened that day.

This is an example of a spontaneous mental break I suppose? It could have ended far worse, and possibly deemed a suicide but I wasnt intent on killing myself.

 

[WAWAW]

I keep wondering this too.
The police initially mentioned that she had links to Thornton, Cleveleys but I can’t find what these links are? I could have missed something though.

I remember that and wondered if it was the parents house

 

[JerseyGirl]

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