Found Deceased UK - Nicola Bulley Last Seen Walking Dog Near River - St Michaels on Wyre (Lancashire) #9

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I'll be honest if a colleague of mine was missing I wouldn't be speaking to the press either or posting on social media about it.
Hopefully the police have spoken to the boss given that he saw her the previous afternoon/ evening and she emailed him just prior to disappearing. He may have info on her prospective new client re mortgage
 
'Seemingly at odds with police, Mr Faulding previously said it was unlikely that Nicola was in the fast flowing River Wyre - adding that it was 'impossible' for the 45-year-old to have made it to the sea. 'For Nicola to get out to sea would be impossible, literally, it's such a long way in the 11 days. It's an awful long way down,' Mr Faulding said.

However, The Times reports that he told the newspaper it was in fact possible her body could have reached the sea by now due to the river's meandering course.'

same link as before Expert diver dramatically ends river search for Nicola Bulley
 
I have a truly genuine question : If TA or EW had an account on WS , would we be allowed to discuss their info/posts ?
Not that they should , mind you .

They could set up accounts and become verified insiders, yes.

 
I tend to think it was someone she knew and was happy to talk to.. at least at first. Creates less disturbance. Any tragic outcome may not originally have been intended.
I’d like to know if she looked different in terms of clothing to how she normally looked. There is a chance she was expecting to meet someone .. or to go on from the walk to meet someone. In relation to the new mortgage business.
Its also possible that she's run off with someone. Speculation is pointless without all the information.
 
Pretty much every dog owner on this sub, myself included, believes that the dog would have followed her into the water based on our experience with our pets. As Willow actually liked the water, it would seem even more likely that she would have followed NB in.

This doesn’t necessitate a third party, she may have fallen in while the dog was exploring and didn’t see her go in. Or if the dog pooped near the water it might have taken off afterwards (they seem to regard their poop as some alien thing they need to get away from, or at least most of the dogs I know do) and NB may have tripped and fallen in while trying to retrieve it. In that case the dog would return to the phone and hang (as it seems to have possibly done).

Or, she was taken by a third party and the dog is indicating the direction they went (I.E. the gate). Because, again, as a dog owner around a lot of dogs, they do tend to wait where they last saw their owner.

It isn’t necessary to know and exact dog, to understand the behavior of dogs in general. I don’t think folks are being crazy here when they extrapolate from experience with dogs,
My dog got lost from his dog walker this week and when I got the call from the random person saying they’d found him, pretty much straight away (because of my number on his collar), he had returned to the dog walkers van and was barking at it. Made me think about this case again … perhaps the dog lost sight of her for whatever reason so returned to where it last saw her / was trying to go back where they’d started … that doesn’t make sense of course if the dog was found much further away which is another point that's not entirely clear…
 
I started thinking lately I should add a disclaimer to media posts saying I don't believe them and I didn't write them..
They're running with a fake concept that police just 'admitted' she could have left via the exit they have been seeking info on all along..
They threw in a third party cos that is what they do..
Egregious.
By morning they will have a new angle.
All of this is sheer torture for a suffering family and children.
I'm talking lightly but I'm feeling really heavy about it.
I see it as cruelty and exploitation.
are they allowed to do this? Like saying the police just admitted she may have left by this exit with a third party? Yet because it is MSM it is considered a reliable source and we are allowed to quote and discuss it here ! No wonder there is so much confusion. They should have to provide a source IMO.
Thanks for clearing it up for me
 
This account contradicts her initial statement that she "suddenly couldn't remember who the owner was." (Suddenly? What an odd choice of words!) I'm mindblown that this witness dashed off to an appointment and didn't alert ANYONE to the presence of a loose dog and an unattended mobile phone (especially under the circumstances) until after her appointment. I just can't get my head around that. And it does mean that the supposed '10-minute window' is potentially an hour longer than that, especially if NB was secreted somewhere nearby (say, for example, because the approaching witness was heard coming down the footpath). It just doesn't sit right with me, MOO.

(Link to initial report and the "suddenly" comment - Nicola Bulley: Shop owner 'found missing woman's dog running free and phone on bench')
The use of 'suddenly' struck me as odd too.
 
I trust almost any police force to interview a witness correctly.
I see no reason to believe they have been remiss here.
It's not the same kind of interview as that of a journalist.
The techniques are different and the objective is different.

They are currently contacting over 700 drivers for dashcam or witness information for a very specific time and I honestly cannot see them investing in that amount resources and manpower without being very very sure of their timings.
I haven't accused the police of being remotely remiss.
I trust the police - they've put tremendous resources into this.
The timings are objectively unsure - it's not about the police not getting it right, but rather having to rely on possibly inaccurate witness statements when everyone who lives near Nicola must be out of their minds with worry.
 
What if NB did fall in the river, then managed to scramble out, but at the other side to where she fell in?

She could have shouted Willow to stay and set off to find a safe place to cross.

This could explain the talk of an ‘entry site’ and explain Willow running back and forth I.e. NB was there but no longer in sight.
 
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'If its home is far away and the dog can't find its owner, it will get worried and try to return home to somewhere familiar.

In certain cases, some dogs will return home along or attempt to follow their missing owner, according to Colin Tennant, director of the Cambridge Institute of Dog Behaviour and Training, who wrote in The Sunday Times.

Dogs cannot, however, process what is happening if a human falls into water. In this case, the dog might run along the bank looking for eye-contact or stop on the bank as the last place of detection.'

 

''Police have said they think Nicola Bulley could have left the riverside on a path that was not covered by CCTV, as the specialist rescue team searching for her has indicated that it will pull out of the investigation within hours.

Peter Faulding described the case as “baffling” and told reporters that he was “absolutely 100 per cent” sure that Ms Bulley’s body was not in the stretch of river scoured by his team of divers and sonar equipment.''

'KEY POINTS​


are they allowed to do this? Like saying the police just admitted she may have left by this exit with a third party? Yet because it is MSM it is considered a reliable source and we are allowed to quote and discuss it here ! No wonder there is so much confusion. They should have to provide a source IMO.
Thanks for clearing it up for me
The Talk TV last night said virtually the same thing. Unfortunately I never stored the link but it was up thread last night and was through their Twitter handle. I'll try and find it.
 
I’m particularly interested in the alleged meeting between NB and her boss the evening before her disappearance. It may be that I’ve missed it, but I haven’t seen/heard anything about the reason for it. If it was an in-person meeting rather than a virtual one, I wonder if it was to deliver particularly significant news of some kind. Does anyone know more?
 
Hmm this case is odd, initially I thought she was in the river like most on here but the expert seems to be sure she isn't and he knows more than us. There is the slight possibility she entered at a different location and there was more of a current that day or has since moved downstream but presence of the weir does sort of make that hard to imagine.

I was thinking of another hypothesis of events that morning (pure speculation obviously)

1. NB is sitting on the bench listening in to the work related meeting on her phone while the dog is running around in the fields which NB watches
2. Someone takes issue with the loose dog near the lake by the Rowanwater
3. NB runs over to diffuse the situation, leaving her phone and the harness on the bench
4. During an altercation, NB ends up in the lake of the Rowanwater, or further upstream near the last apparent sighting

I'm not sure if the lake near Rowanwater was searched yet but I guess this fits with the evidence we have in some respects. I wonder is the caravan park open at all at this time of the year.
 
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Its also possible that she's run off with someone. Speculation is pointless without all the information.
Or that she went to meet someone she knew but it then turned into a different situation from what she expected. I was thinking, what if it was someone she didn't expect to be in the area, who normally lives elsewhere?
 
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'Also, we can say that she did not return from the fields along Allotment Lane or via the path at the rear of the Grapes pub onto Garstang Road.' ( sorry, no further details disclosed)

 
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