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Lucy Letby trial: Mum walked in on nurse killing baby, trial told
Lucy Letby told the mother of a distressed baby "trust me I'm a nurse", her murder trial hears.
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A well-written post Supernovae! I'd like to point out a similar reasoning was followed in the Lucia de Berk's case. Deaths were only considered suspicious if Lucia was on duty, while similar unexplained deaths when she wasn't on duty were not. When asked about why those deaths weren't considered suspicious a doctor or investigator (I have forgotten who it was) outright said "Because Lucia wasn't on duty." Baffling logic really...
On a different note, is anyone else a bit sceptical about the wide variety of murder methods? So far there's injections of air down a tube into their circulation, insulin through a feeding bag, feeding too much milk and pumping air down a tube into their stomachs. Normally a silent killer like this tends to stick to a single method and some of these methods don't strike me as something you can hide easily.
No- insulin can be added to IV bags for a number of legitimate reasons. You would not know it was there unless labeled as such.Do any of the medical professionals in here know if there are any markings visible to the naked eye when insulin binds to a bag or plastic?
The prosecution say Lucy Letby "took an unusual interest" in the family of Child E. She did social media searches on the parents two days after Child E’s death, and on August 23, September 14, October 5, November 5, December 7, and even on December 25.
The prosecution say there were further searches in January 2016.
Yes and me because according to tony chambers the chief executive of the hospital at the time said he had called in police to rule out foul play and was sure he had 90% of the answers.than left the hospital on LL 1st arrest with his full pension in place .I’ll be interested as the case progresses to see peoples opinions on whether the babies were actually murdered or not. Regardless of the feeling on LL.
A not unreasonable explanation. Not usual but not entirely unreasonable, I wouldn't have said.3:02pm
In a June 2019 police interview, Letby agreed with the idea that insulin would not be administered accidentally.
In November 2020, she was asked why she had searched for the parents of Child E and F. She said she thought it might be to see how Child F was doing.
She was asked asked about texting Child F’s blood sugar levels to an off- duty colleague at 8am. She said she must have looked on his chart.
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“Consistent with” says: she could have done it. The event is surely also consistent with other scenarios. Probably it is also consistent with actions of other nurses at other moments. I moreover imagine that accidental introduction of air into a cannula used for intravenous administration of necessary fluids is possible due to faulty apparatus or damaged bottles of fluids. At present we only have experts who were employed at the hospital or instructed by the prosecution. The defence will have instructed other experts. We will hear from them later. The question remains: if the collapse was completely unexpected and if it was so obviously weird why did the hypothesis of an injection of air not come up earlier? How come it’s taken five years to gather this evidence?Now15:32
Child A 'most likely' died after being injected with air
Multiple medical experts concluded the cause of Child A's collapse was "not some natural disease process".
One said his collapse was "consistent" with a "deliberate injection" a minute or two prior to his deterioration - at a time when only Lucy Letby was present.
Two doctors concluded his death was most likely caused by an injection of air into either his umbilical venous catheter (UVC) or his long line.
A radiologist concluded that "even allowing for post-mortem gases to develop, the gas pattern seen in the x-rays was unusual and in keeping with air being injected into Child A's bloodstream".
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Nobody can give their account of any crime you are waiting to go to trial onWaiting until your trial to give your side of events for the first time is not terribly sensible....Not remembering what happened during the most traumatic cases of your life (including an interaction with the mother you check up every month on FB) doesn't look good. Not remembering if you've checked up a family every month?
The police interview process wouldn't pose a question in this way. There is a methodical framework known by the mnemonic PEACEIs it possible this is due to the manner in which questions were posed? For example 'what were you doing on the evening of February 19th 2015' would evoke 'can't remember' in most people.
Or is it another way of saying 'no comment'? Would a solicitor / barrister advise a person to respond 'can't remember'?
Also, when a person is accused of a heinous crime such as this one, do they get quite heavily medicated whilst either on remand in prison or at home in the community? Some psychiatric medications can render a person barely able to function or interact but may well be needed.
Nurses regularly accidentally take all kinds of stuff home in their nurse’s smock. Remember: they work long hours, very intensively. Have to deal with lots of paperwork as well as direct patient care. Are often not treated with respect and dignity by senior medics. There are worrying events happening all the time and regularly very traumatic events. Lucia de Berk had stuff at home which shouldn’t have been there. Everybody did.None (and it violates patient confidentiality.)