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We are going out shortly Dotta …. He is waiting patiently until my domestic drudgery is completed !
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Perhaps there has been some form of inappropriate behaviour from juror to juror or otherwise that needs some investigation? It's been 9 months and with 12 folks unknown to each other there may have been tensions in some regard. This article is from 2012 but includes incidents of bullying and inappropriate behavour Counsel Magazine
 
Parker Knoll said:
The thing is they hammer home the need for transparency in our courts but yet here we are again. If it was jury illness then surely they would of said that as they have before.
To me now with the reporting restrictions there has to be an “issue” with the jury that is not illness. I can’t see anything else.
JMO
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What reporting restrictions? If it's the ones referenced on the listing that could just be the standard not-naming-children kind.
 
Moll said:
I'm probably showing my age here but as the upper age limit for jurors is 75, I can't see them as being necessarily frail even if they are retired!

EDITED as I had forgotten it's been raised from 70 to 75...but I still baulk at the word 'frail'!
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Is mechanically challenged more acceptable?
 
Lincoln34 said:
Perhaps there has been some form of inappropriate behaviour from juror to juror or otherwise that needs some investigation? It's been 9 months and with 12 folks unknown to each other there may have been tensions in some regard. This article is from 2012 but includes incidents of bullying and inappropriate behavour Counsel Magazine
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More recently there were suggestions that that had happened in the Emile Cilliers case:

www.bbc.co.uk

Emile Cilliers parachute trial: Jurors warned against 'bullying'

Mr Justice Sweeney tells jurors to stay "within the proper bounds of discussion" while deliberating.
www.bbc.co.uk

www.theguardian.com

Jury in Emile Cilliers case defends itself after judge's bullying direction

Jury in case of army sergeant accused of attempting to murder his wife say no bullying took place during deliberations
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

Sergeant faces retrial as jury fails to reach verdict in parachute sabotage case | The Argus

Emile Cilliers denied two charges of attempted murder and a third count of damaging a gas fitting.
www.theargus.co.uk

I also found this case from the US:

eu.app.com

'Bullying' in jury room forces mistrial in Asbury Park gang execution case

A judge said a "rare and unusual situation'' forced her to declare a mistrial in the case of the 2017 Asbury Park gang murder of Denzel Morgan-Hicks.
eu.app.com
 
musicaljoke said:
I'm not so convinced. They have a lot of charges to wade through to establish whether the evidence points to a guilty finding. Plus, they all have to agree. Is it even possible to get through more than a couple each day? If these were singular murder charges, a half day of deliberations would seem very fast.
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I'd be surprised if we get verdicts before a majority direction. It would require the jury to be unanimous on all of the many charges.
 
Quiz Part 1 - Answer sheet will be posted on Sunday night

Q.1

When Mr Johnson said to LL “we will dance the dance if you want to” did Mr Myers object to this because comments like this are –

A. improper
B. humiliating
C. belittling
D. sarcastic

Q.2

The Hon. Mr Justice Goss celebrated a milestone birthday during the trial. Is he -

A. 40
B. 50
C. 60
D. 70

Q.3

In police interview, when LL spotted from the doorway that baby I was pale, did LL tell police the lights were –

A. Off
B. On (full)
C. Low on a dimmer
D. All or a mixture of these


Q.4

Did Mr Myers describe the information presented by the prosecution as –

A. spaghetti junction
B. spaghetti on the wall
C. spaghetti salad
D. spaghetti soup

Q.5

How many court days have been lost to juror absences (not including snow days) –

A. 15 1/2
B. 19 1/2
C. 24 1/2
D. 26 1/2

Q.6

Did LL tell police she wrote “I am evil” because –

A. "other people would perceive me as evil if I had missed anything"
B. "If my practice wasn't good enough then it made me feel like an evil person"
C. Both of the above statements

Q.7

What was the final thing LL said to police, at the end of her third and last interview on Nov 10 2020 -

A. "No"
B. "I'm just a bit exhausted now"
C. "They might have been taken home in my pocket"
D. "I felt as though I wasn't good enough"

Q.8

What was pictured on LL’s work name badge –

A. a butterfly
B. an owl
C. a teddy bear
D. a bee

Q.9

How many nurses and nursery nurses were on the staff presence report (nursing spreadsheet) including LL?

A. 23
B. 28
C. 31
D. 38

Q.10

How many Facebook searches did LL carry out in November 2015 –

A. 173
B. 277
C. 305
D. 367
 
Tortoise said:
Quiz Part 1 - Answer sheet will be posted on Sunday night

Q.1

When Mr Johnson said to LL “we will dance the dance if you want to” did Mr Myers object to this because comments like this are –

A. improper
B. humiliating
C. belittling
D. sarcastic

Q.2

The Hon. Mr Justice Goss celebrated a milestone birthday during the trial. Is he -

A. 40
B. 50
C. 60
D. 70

Q.3

In police interview, when LL spotted from the doorway that baby I was pale, did LL tell police the lights were –

A. Off
B. On (full)
C. Low on a dimmer
D. All or a mixture of these


Q.4

Did Mr Myers describe the information presented by the prosecution as –

A. spaghetti junction
B. spaghetti on the wall
C. spaghetti salad
D. spaghetti soup

Q.5

How many court days have been lost to juror absences (not including snow days) –

A. 15 1/2
B. 19 1/2
C. 24 1/2
D. 26 1/2

Q.6

Did LL tell police she wrote “I am evil” because –

A. "other people would perceive me as evil if I had missed anything"
B. "If my practice wasn't good enough then it made me feel like an evil person"
C. Both of the above statements

Q.7

What was the final thing LL said to police, at the end of her third and last interview on Nov 10 2020 -

A. "No"
B. "I'm just a bit exhausted now"
C. "They might have been taken home in my pocket"
D. "I felt as though I wasn't good enough"

Q.8

What was pictured on LL’s work name badge –

A. a butterfly
B. an owl
C. a teddy bear
D. a bee

Q.9

How many nurses and nursery nurses were on the staff presence report (nursing spreadsheet) including LL?

A. 23
B. 28
C. 31
D. 38

Q.10

How many Facebook searches did LL carry out in November 2015 –

A. 173
B. 277
C. 305
D. 367
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I’m not going to win so I’m not gonna play. Nurnurnur
big thanks tortoise for putting it together, appreciate it.

q1. C. Belittling
q2. Guessing 70. D
q3. guessing d.
q4. A.
q5. C.
q6. C.
q7. B.
q8. No idea but guessing c.
q9. Guessing a.
q10. Oooooh really good question. Guessing b.

eta. Giv me ur PayPal deets T and I’ll slip you a fiver, Mums the word ;)
 
Tortoise said:
Quiz Part 1 - Answer sheet will be posted on Sunday night

Q.1

When Mr Johnson said to LL “we will dance the dance if you want to” did Mr Myers object to this because comments like this are –

A. improper
B. humiliating
C. belittling
D. sarcastic
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belittling?
Tortoise said:
Q.2

The Hon. Mr Justice Goss celebrated a milestone birthday during the trial. Is he -

A. 40
B. 50
C. 60
D. 70
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D--70 ?
Tortoise said:
Q.3

In police interview, when LL spotted from the doorway that baby I was pale, did LL tell police the lights were –

A. Off
B. On (full)
C. Low on a dimmer
D. All or a mixture of these
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D---a mixture, thus inconsistent
Tortoise said:
Q.4

Did Mr Myers describe the information presented by the prosecution as –

A. spaghetti junction
B. spaghetti on the wall
C. spaghetti salad
D. spaghetti soup
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Spaghetti soup?
Tortoise said:
Q.5

How many court days have been lost to juror absences (not including snow days) –

A. 15 1/2
B. 19 1/2
C. 24 1/2
D. 26 1/2
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I don't remember, so guessing C---24 1/2
Tortoise said:
Q.6

Did LL tell police she wrote “I am evil” because –

A. "other people would perceive me as evil if I had missed anything"
B. "If my practice wasn't good enough then it made me feel like an evil person"
C. Both of the above statements
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C---both
Tortoise said:
Q.7

What was the final thing LL said to police, at the end of her third and last interview on Nov 10 2020 -

A. "No"
B. "I'm just a bit exhausted now"
C. "They might have been taken home in my pocket"
D. "I felt as though I wasn't good enough"
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I think it was B---Exhausted now

[or maybe A- No]
Tortoise said:
Q.8

What was pictured on LL’s work name badge –

A. a butterfly
B. an owl
C. a teddy bear
D. a bee
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A-Butterfly
Tortoise said:
Q.9

How many nurses and nursery nurses were on the staff presence report (nursing spreadsheet) including LL?

A. 23
B. 28
C. 31
D. 38
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c--31?
Tortoise said:
Q.10

How many Facebook searches did LL carry out in November 2015 –

A. 173
B. 277
C. 305
D. 367
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A--173?
 
Tortoise said:
Quiz Part 1 - Answer sheet will be posted on Sunday night

Q.1

When Mr Johnson said to LL “we will dance the dance if you want to” did Mr Myers object to this because comments like this are –

A. improper
B. humiliating
C. belittling
D. sarcastic

Q.2

The Hon. Mr Justice Goss celebrated a milestone birthday during the trial. Is he -

A. 40
B. 50
C. 60
D. 70

Q.3

In police interview, when LL spotted from the doorway that baby I was pale, did LL tell police the lights were –

A. Off
B. On (full)
C. Low on a dimmer
D. All or a mixture of these


Q.4

Did Mr Myers describe the information presented by the prosecution as –

A. spaghetti junction
B. spaghetti on the wall
C. spaghetti salad
D. spaghetti soup

Q.5

How many court days have been lost to juror absences (not including snow days) –

A. 15 1/2
B. 19 1/2
C. 24 1/2
D. 26 1/2

Q.6

Did LL tell police she wrote “I am evil” because –

A. "other people would perceive me as evil if I had missed anything"
B. "If my practice wasn't good enough then it made me feel like an evil person"
C. Both of the above statements

Q.7

What was the final thing LL said to police, at the end of her third and last interview on Nov 10 2020 -

A. "No"
B. "I'm just a bit exhausted now"
C. "They might have been taken home in my pocket"
D. "I felt as though I wasn't good enough"

Q.8

What was pictured on LL’s work name badge –

A. a butterfly
B. an owl
C. a teddy bear
D. a bee

Q.9

How many nurses and nursery nurses were on the staff presence report (nursing spreadsheet) including LL?

A. 23
B. 28
C. 31
D. 38

Q.10

How many Facebook searches did LL carry out in November 2015 –

A. 173
B. 277
C. 305
D. 367
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Q1. C
Q2. D
Q3. D
Q4. B
Q5. B
Q6. C
Q7. A
Q8. A
Q9. B
Q10. C

Mostly guesses, that was tough!
 
Tortoise said:
Quiz Part 1 - Answer sheet will be posted on Sunday night

Q.1

When Mr Johnson said to LL “we will dance the dance if you want to” did Mr Myers object to this because comments like this are –

A. improper
B. humiliating
C. belittling
D. sarcastic

Q.2

The Hon. Mr Justice Goss celebrated a milestone birthday during the trial. Is he -

A. 40
B. 50
C. 60
D. 70

Q.3

In police interview, when LL spotted from the doorway that baby I was pale, did LL tell police the lights were –

A. Off
B. On (full)
C. Low on a dimmer
D. All or a mixture of these


Q.4

Did Mr Myers describe the information presented by the prosecution as –

A. spaghetti junction
B. spaghetti on the wall
C. spaghetti salad
D. spaghetti soup

Q.5

How many court days have been lost to juror absences (not including snow days) –

A. 15 1/2
B. 19 1/2
C. 24 1/2
D. 26 1/2

Q.6

Did LL tell police she wrote “I am evil” because –

A. "other people would perceive me as evil if I had missed anything"
B. "If my practice wasn't good enough then it made me feel like an evil person"
C. Both of the above statements

Q.7

What was the final thing LL said to police, at the end of her third and last interview on Nov 10 2020 -

A. "No"
B. "I'm just a bit exhausted now"
C. "They might have been taken home in my pocket"
D. "I felt as though I wasn't good enough"

Q.8

What was pictured on LL’s work name badge –

A. a butterfly
B. an owl
C. a teddy bear
D. a bee

Q.9

How many nurses and nursery nurses were on the staff presence report (nursing spreadsheet) including LL?

A. 23
B. 28
C. 31
D. 38

Q.10

How many Facebook searches did LL carry out in November 2015 –

A. 173
B. 277
C. 305
D. 367
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1 - c
2 - d
3 - d
4 - a
5 - c
6 - c
7 - b
8 - a
9 - b
10 - d
 
Q.1

When Mr Johnson said to LL “we will dance the dance if you want to” did Mr Myers object to this because comments like this are –

A. improper
B. humiliating
C. belittling
D. sarcastic

Q.2

The Hon. Mr Justice Goss celebrated a milestone birthday during the trial. Is he -

A. 40
B. 50
C. 60
D. 70

Q.3

In police interview, when LL spotted from the doorway that baby I was pale, did LL tell police the lights were –

A. Off
B. On (full)
C. Low on a dimmer
D. All or a mixture of these


Q.4

Did Mr Myers describe the information presented by the prosecution as –

A. spaghetti junction
B. spaghetti on the wall
C. spaghetti salad
D. spaghetti soup

Q.5

How many court days have been lost to juror absences (not including snow days) –

A. 15 1/2
B. 19 1/2
C. 24 1/2
D. 26 1/2

Q.6

Did LL tell police she wrote “I am evil” because –

A. "other people would perceive me as evil if I had missed anything"
B. "If my practice wasn't good enough then it made me feel like an evil person"
C. Both of the above statements

Q.7

What was the final thing LL said to police, at the end of her third and last interview on Nov 10 2020 -

A. "No"
B. "I'm just a bit exhausted now"
C. "They might have been taken home in my pocket"
D. "I felt as though I wasn't good enough"

Q.8

What was pictured on LL’s work name badge –

A. a butterfly
B. an owl
C. a teddy bear
D. a bee

Q.9

How many nurses and nursery nurses were on the staff presence report (nursing spreadsheet) including LL?

A. 23
B. 28
C. 31
D. 38

Q.10

How many Facebook searches did LL carry out in November 2015 –

A. 173
B. 277
C. 305
D. 367
 
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