UK - Nurse Lucy Letby, murder of babies, 7 Guilty of murder verdicts; 7 Guilty of attempted murder; 2 Not Guilty of attempted; 6 hung re attempted #34

[May72031]

very intresting old artical about the case Police investigating baby deaths at Countess of Chester Hospital

It isn't mentioned in the article of course, but I wonder if the DM were aware a nurse had been "moved" from the unit 12 months earlier. I would guess yes.

 

[minusfour]

Far out-after the longest trial and jury deliberation, LL was finally found guilty. I turned away, attended to some real life stuff, and now here I am, thirty five pages behind!

 

[Tortoise]

12:28KEY EVENT

Solicitor for 7 babies' families 'disappointed' with CPS decision​

Tamlin Bolton, a Senior Associate Solicitor at Switalskis, represents the families of seven babies.
In a statement today, she said: "At Switalskis, we are disappointed with the CPS decision to not proceed with a retrial on all of the cases. We believe that the families of the further alleged victims still have questions that are unanswered, and they deserve to know what happened to their children."

Lucy Letby to face retrial for one count of attempted murder of newborn baby

Lucy Letby was sentenced to a whole life order last month, but the jury in her trial was unable to reach verdicts on six counts of attempted murder in relation to five children

www.mirror.co.uk

 

[cottonweaver]

@squish reported earlier that LL had loo rolls in shot while she was listening to proceedings today.

squish: ' She had toilet rolls conspicuously positioned on her desk, presumably to show she might cry.' ( On page 44 of this thread)

That new Mirror link is carrying an old sketch of her with a box of tissues ( from the original trial)

personally, I think that's a hammy move when you can easily carry tissues in your sleeve or lap. ( A little ostentatious for me, if I was a juror. Hollywood trial vibes)

Also, how did she manage to pay attention today when just a few weeks ago she couldn't face her own sentencing?

 

[Becky53]

That’s really interesting she’s still at Newhall.
Again another first !

Could it just be for psychiatric evaluations before moving her on eventually?
Although one would think there was a psychiatric unit where she was going…

 

[Dotta]

Could it just be for psychiatric evaluations before moving her on eventually?
Although one would think there was a psychiatric unit where she was going…

Why weren't these evaluations done before the trial?

Or earlier in her life when she started showing worrying symptoms?

They could have saved innocent lives of Babies.

Now, they seem to me as "mustard after dinner" as we say in my country.

If you catch the meaning hehe

JMO

 

[Dotta]

@squish reported earlier that LL had loo rolls in shot while she was listening to proceedings today.

squish: ' She had toilet rolls conspicuously positioned on her desk, presumably to show she might cry.' ( On page 44 of this thread)

That new Mirror link is carrying an old sketch of her with a box of tissues ( from the original trial)

personally, I think that's a hammy move when you can easily carry tissues in your sleeve or lap. ( A little ostentatious for me, if I was a juror. Hollywood trial vibes)

Also, how did she manage to pay attention today when just a few weeks ago she couldn't face her own sentencing?
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Hasn't she got pockets in her prison uniform?
Hasn't she got a packet of normal cheap tissues??

Sorry, but loo paper put for everybody to see in Court is simply disgusting IMO
Yuck!

 

[mrC]

an appeal has been lodged allready im suprised there not normally that quick

https://twitter.com/x/status/1702707099354939527

 

[Becky53]

Lucy Letby's next steps as she 'toys' with victims' parents in bid to appeal conviction.

Lucy Letby's next steps as she 'toys' with victims' parents in bid to appeal

The 33-year-old former neonatal nurse formally filed a bid to challenge her conviction at the Court of Appeal last week following her whole-life order sentence. We hear from experts who outline her 'uphill battle' and motives...

www.mirror.co.uk

 

[DianaWW]

an appeal has been lodged allready im suprised there not normally that quick

https://twitter.com/x/status/1702707099354939527

Appeals have to be lodged within 28 days of the date of conviction. Hers was lodged the last day it could be done. So pretty standard.

Appeal a Crown Court decision

How to appeal a decision by a Crown Court. Find out which forms you'll need and what the appeal process involves.

www.gov.uk

 

[Parker Knoll]

All for effect and control
JMO

 

[cottonweaver]

Hasn't she got pockets in her prison uniform?
Hasn't she got a packet of normal cheap tissues??

Sorry, but loo paper put for everybody to see in Court is simply disgusting IMO
Yuck!

Aww Dotta, you're meant to feel sorry for her. This is what she is reduced to now, rolls of loo paper

It reminds of her exaggerated tale of woe " I was arrested in my nightie/pyjamas' (Until Johnson KC busted her on that story)

'Letby previously told the jury she was first arrested at 6am and taken away in her nightgown.
"How were you dressed when you left the house?"
"I think I had a nightie on and tracksuit bottoms and trainers," she says.
"You were taken away in a blue Lee Cooper Leisure suit."
"I don't remember, I had a nightie on," she says.
"Do you want me to show you a video of it?"
"No."

The prosecution says Letby wasn't taken away in her pyjamas at all. Letby agrees this was the case.
"Why did you lie to the jury about it?" Mr Johnson asks.
"I don't know."

Mr Johnson calls Letby a "very calculating woman" who "tells lies deliberately".
"No," she replies.
"The reason you tell lies is to try to get sympathy from people," says Mr Johnson.
"No."

Lucy Letby trial: Facebook searches of nurse accused of murdering babies read out in court

Lucy Letby, a former neonatal nurse, has been back in court for another day of cross-examination by the prosecution on Friday. She is accused of the murder of seven babies and the attempted murder of 10 others, and denies all the charges.

news.sky.com

 

[Tweet57]

Still struggling to get my head around the horrors of this case

 

[Marantz4250b]

My conversation with Lucy Letby's former school friend has now been uploaded. This individual wishes to remain anonymous so I have had to narrate the conversation myself

Listened to that this morning - really interesting. Good job.

It reinforces my opinion that she is is absolutely nothing special and is just so "normal" - other than being a serial murderer, obviously!

The description given by her school friend is a description of literally millions of girls and young women. Nothing what-so-ever which points to her eventual behavior; she wasn't cruel to people or animals, wasn't a massive manipulator, other than perhaps to manipulate conversations to being about her but I've met loads of people like that. My ex was a massive attention seeker but I'd never imagine that she'd become serial killer.

She is just so, so strange!

 

[Marantz4250b]

I couldn't say online but when I first spoke to the lass who said she was on the Holly House wing at New Hall, I had it checked through a colleague of mine and confirmed it. She's there indefinitely too pending more intensive psych evals.

I think we can see where this is going; my prediction is that she isn't going to serve her time in a prison. She'll be in somewhere like Rampton.

 

[Trebor5591]

Could the Lucy Letby murders be a form of Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy? An attention seeking form of behavior by a healthcare worker? I am mentioning it since I I am uncertain if it has been discussed previously.

 

[Dotta]

I think we can see where this is going; my prediction is that she isn't going to serve her time in a prison. She'll be in somewhere like Rampton.

Rare glimpse inside Rampton Hospital - BBC News

The BBC East Midlands' Inside Out is allowed in to film life at Rampton Hospital, a secure facility housing some of the UK's most violent criminals.

www-bbc-com.cdn.ampproject.org

 

[Marantz4250b]

Why weren't these evaluations done before the trial?

Or earlier in her life when she started showing worrying symptoms?

They could have saved innocent lives of Babies.

Now, they seem to me as "mustard after dinner" as we say in my country.

If you catch the meaning hehe

JMO

If she hadn't agreed to being evaluated then no evaluations would have been done.

From what we've heard there was literally nothing in her earlier life that would give rise to need to by psychologically assessed. She was a bit "me, me" but I haven't read anything which would suggest that she had potential mental health problems.

 

[Dotta]

If she hadn't agreed to being evaluated then no evaluations would have been done.

From what we've heard there was literally nothing in her earlier life that would give rise to need to by psychologically assessed. She was a bit "me, me" but I haven't read anything which would suggest that she had potential mental health problems.

So
She didn't agree earlier, but
surprise surprise
She graciously has agreed now

When the ground is "burning beneath her feet".

This criminal is playing everybody around her.
She is the star in her own sick drama.
And all others are props.

PS
I bet her family have noticed her weird behaviour since childhood.

JMO

 

[Officer Dibble]

My conversation with Lucy Letby's former school friend has now been uploaded. This individual wishes to remain anonymous so I have had to narrate the conversation myself

Thanks so much for sharing. That is a great insight. Really interesting. So basically a LOT of inappropriate talk with not understanding it was inappropriate, coupled with lack of empathy, ego of a know-it-all, plus being the class policeperson. That sounds to me like either Autism or a personality disorder. JMO MOO.