Ah yeah, never thought about it that way. Still, odd word to use but he is an oddball so I shouldn't be surprised. I've noticed MSM have used the word on alot of headlines today...
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Ah yeah, never thought about it that way. Still, odd word to use but he is an oddball so I shouldn't be surprised. I've noticed MSM have used the word on alot of headlines today...
And diverts the question to then talk about her child and unborn babies, how could he do this to us? As if to say he put us in this mess, she then helped him out of it, without leaving any trace, or very little JMO.
I think she may not have been involved in the murder of becky but she's up to her neck when it comes to the rest of the crime IMO.
It used to annoy me watching police interviews with suspects - why are they not pushing this - like why not ask about the kidnap texts etc. But they kind of need to keep suspects thinking they're on their side to get the information they need out of them. It makes perfect sense but I know I wouldn't have the patience to pussy foot around them. We have the best detectives in the world, I think anyways
His detailed description today is absolutely Vile.
He's a little Sociopath, an actor and expresses some remorse only bc he was & is between a rock & a hard place.
All those reassuring words he kindly uttered to Becky---the big, bad masked figure supposedly trying to scare her & teach her a lesson: (paraphrasing)
As long as you do as ur told, u'll be fine
Keep ur eyes shut
Bend your legs so I can get u in the suitcase
Don't struggle u'll be released unharmed
What a heap of rubbish ^^...Cry me a river
He's a little Sociopath, an actor and expresses some remorse only bc he was & is between a rock & a hard place.
All those reassuring words he kindly uttered to Becky---the big, bad masked figure supposedly trying to scare her & teach her a lesson: (paraphrasing)
As long as you do as ur told, u'll be fine
Keep ur eyes shut
Bend your legs so I can get u in the suitcase
Don't struggle u'll be released unharmed
What a heap of rubbish ^^...Cry me a river
Probably because at the time of the interview (3rd March) they didn't know about the kidnap texts.
Experts also recovered text messages exchanged between Matthews and Hoare on December 9 last year from phones they handed to police.
At 12.58pm, one wrote: ''*advertiser censored** you bring me back two pretty schoolgirls then
A reply at 12.59pm said: ''lol yeh I'll just kidnap them from school ... ''
Later that day, at 6.14pm, one wrote: ''Just went into Costcutter and saw a pretty petite girl. Almost knocked her out to bring home lol xoxo''
A reply 20 seconds later read: ''Don't you 'almost' me ... Now DO IT b-i-t-c-h!! xxxxx''
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...ntasising-about-kidnapping-teenage-girls.html
Whoops, yeah you're quite right. That was a bad example to use.
Ugh, I find it so hideous to hear her talk of having to ask if she can have a cigarette when they get to Becky's, and that he "allowed" her to. She says it in such a throwaway fashion, as though this is normal
And then the app on her phone that records all her calls, and her not even knowing her own phone number. Depressing.
And then the app on her phone that records all her calls, and her not even knowing her own phone number. Depressing.
When does he use the stun gun in this filthy, supposedly 5-10 min tight version of her assault & murder...
Where in this scenario does the stun gun mishap occur
When does he stop & remove the handcuffs from her body
He's got that tape over Becky's mouth right off, straight away...O, so Shauna can't hear a thing
Wouldn't u take ur victim down to the floor swiftly, immediately...then handcuff, next tape mouth
He tapes her mouth first & she begins obeying the "mystery" kidnapper...Liar. I don't believe him
Where in this scenario does the stun gun mishap occur
When does he stop & remove the handcuffs from her body
He's got that tape over Becky's mouth right off, straight away...O, so Shauna can't hear a thing
Wouldn't u take ur victim down to the floor swiftly, immediately...then handcuff, next tape mouth
He tapes her mouth first & she begins obeying the "mystery" kidnapper...Liar. I don't believe him
In his previous answers he has managed to go into his reply in depth. Not so with the actual dismemberment.
I think by 'surreal' NM has distanced himself from the body being BW. Focusing his mind on maybe a horror movie idk like 'Texas Chainsaw Massacre' and set about the 'job' as though it were him watching someone else.
I'm sure that something as traumatic as that would of been. Maybe he had tried wiping the memory of it from his mind.
Standing back from it all. .... PTSD to follow. Imo.
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2009/10 was around the time NM/SH got together. Were they his? Or did they have a shared interest from very early on??
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Yea and i hope the has nightmares every night for the rest of his perfetic little life.
AG appears to be somewhat supportive of her son. NM smiled at his mother while on the stand - she smiled back.
If she goes to visit him in jail, will DG be ok with his wife visiting his daughter's murderer? That's a very tricky situation to find yourself in.
If she goes to visit him in jail, will DG be ok with his wife visiting his daughter's murderer? That's a very tricky situation to find yourself in.
Both SH and NM are lying liars, and have a warped sense of reality.
SH plays the innocent who isn't aware of anything going on around her (didn't hear Becky fighting for her life, didn't know NM had killed her, didn't know he managed to carry her lifeless body to the car, didn't know a dead body was in her house for 3 days, didn't know Becky was dismembered in her bathroom, which she couldn't use for 3 days, didnt know what the "supplies" were for and on and on.
NM tries to come across as being a hero (despite being a killer), who is trying to "save" those around him - he is concerned that his mother doesn't trip and fall (despite the house being full of hazards not of Becky's making) he claims responsibility for everything to spare SH (she knew nothing, wasn't involved). He even claims the dismembering of Becky's body was to "protect everybody". It's just beyond belief.
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SH plays the innocent who isn't aware of anything going on around her (didn't hear Becky fighting for her life, didn't know NM had killed her, didn't know he managed to carry her lifeless body to the car, didn't know a dead body was in her house for 3 days, didn't know Becky was dismembered in her bathroom, which she couldn't use for 3 days, didnt know what the "supplies" were for and on and on.
NM tries to come across as being a hero (despite being a killer), who is trying to "save" those around him - he is concerned that his mother doesn't trip and fall (despite the house being full of hazards not of Becky's making) he claims responsibility for everything to spare SH (she knew nothing, wasn't involved). He even claims the dismembering of Becky's body was to "protect everybody". It's just beyond belief.
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I was a bit shocked to here she smiled back at him also, u can get sarcastic smiles I suppose but it wasn't the best time to use it IMO
One of the things I can't wrap my head around is why the police didn't put a guard on the house while Becky's body was there and the couple were at SH's mother's house (they returned later that evening).
When police want to search your house and you make up a flimsy excuse about how you are going out for dinner and can't change your plans - why is that an accepted excuse? If the police had put a guard in place, that would have ensured that nothing would have left the house that night, instead, NH had time to remove Becky's body and store it in KD's shed.
When police want to search your house and you make up a flimsy excuse about how you are going out for dinner and can't change your plans - why is that an accepted excuse? If the police had put a guard in place, that would have ensured that nothing would have left the house that night, instead, NH had time to remove Becky's body and store it in KD's shed.
http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/Becky-...tory-28062974-detail/story.html#ixzz3pnUt8FPX
If his plan was to kidnap Becky and release her unharmed, what was the black bin bag originally for?
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Something that really jumps out of me is the disconnect between SH's affect and the content of what she is talking about in the interviews. A person who truly didn't know that their partner of many years had not only murdered but dismembered a close family member would show more intense shock, anguish, disbelief, sadness as they learned about this.
The complete lack of emotion, unless she is tearing up briefly about how it has affected HER, is a huge red flag - independent of all the other reasons her answers seem completely implausible.
It almost seems like she may have goaded/coaxed NM into committing the murder... and now he feels horrible about what he has done, whereas SH doesn't at all.
I dunno- this one is tough to figure out!!!
The complete lack of emotion, unless she is tearing up briefly about how it has affected HER, is a huge red flag - independent of all the other reasons her answers seem completely implausible.
It almost seems like she may have goaded/coaxed NM into committing the murder... and now he feels horrible about what he has done, whereas SH doesn't at all.
I dunno- this one is tough to figure out!!!
And yet just a short time later. AG was sobbing loudly in Court. After hearing how NM had killed BW.
It's gonna lead to some very strained family dynamics. Such a dreadful place to be in. I really do feel for AG and DG.
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I've heard of this sort of thing, but never knew anyone do it when I was at school
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choking_game
That's another strange thing. I would have thought the most effective way would be to wait with the bin bag in his hands, and pull it down over her head as soon as she opened the door. Rather than try winding sellotape round her mouth. She wouldn't have seen him when the mask allegedly fell off either.
About feeding the rabbit. Someone said that it only takes a minute to feed a rabbit. But it might be a different matter if it involves a two-year old child and a bag of lettuce.
I must admit I was shocked most of all by AG smiling at NM more than anything else that happened today in court.
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I've thought similar - I think part of their story is the truth. I wonder if they had talked about doing something to Becky (not kidnap for teaching her to be tidy purposes), along the lines of kidnapping her.
I wonder if NM tried to put that into place, without telling SH - maybe he would tell her when Becky was in the car. But it went wrong, so in this case, there was no conspiracy to kidnap with SH..... and as she wasn't part of the plan that morning, so she can claim to be totally innocent. She can also claim to be innocent of the clean up afterwards, as its all his fault, and nothing to do with her.
I agree with you that he seems remorseful, or at least shocked by what he did. SH, however, seems far too calm and collected about it all. If she knew nothing about any of it - why is the absolute horror and shock and disbelief?
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