UK - Sara Sharif, 10, found murdered in house, Surrey, Aug 2023 *POIs ARREST* #2

[Officer Dibble]

Such a beautiful face. RIP dear Sara.

 

[heartandsoul]

I do not think Sara was wearing traditional clothes including a hijab for religious reasons , they were worn to cover up injuries on her body.

Agreed

 

[Dotta]

Maybe Sara was "promised" to some guy in P.?

And her photos were sent to him?
- "engagement" photo with make up and earrings
- pious school photos
- traditional outfits while playing in the park
(to show that she was being raised according to religious rules)

Maybe the uncle was meant to keep an eye on her?
Was he living with this family?

But as she showed rebellion, she was "disciplined".

But it went too far.
That is why a stepm. called it an "incident".

JMO

 

[VioletLilac]

I think the kids would have been a good source of information if the police had been able to get to them earlier but I'm not sure now. They might have had it drummed into them over a long period to say No Comment or they'll never see their family again.

 

[Megnut]

Such a beautiful face. RIP dear Sara.

Such a beautiful face indeed.

It's harrowing to think she may have been hiding a broken collarbone, broken ribs, untold bruises and how-many healed fractures under that smile.

My soul aches for her.

Jmo

 

[Dotta]

I think the kids would have been a good source of information if the police had been able to get to them earlier but I'm not sure now. They might have had it drummed into them over a long period to say No Comment or they'll never see their family again.

Questioning the children can only be done in the presence of trained psychologists.

This special mode of interrogation results from the need to protect a witness who is under 15 years of age from repeated trauma, which could result from interrogating the witness several times.

In my country
the main elements of the interview procedure, designed to ensure special protection of interviewed witnesses, are:

- ensuring that the witness is interviewed once, and only in exceptional cases can this activity be repeated (e.g. due to the emergence of new significant circumstances),

- participation of an expert psychologist.

No rushing things!
They are minors.
It concerns THEIR family, which is especially painful and traumatic.

Police should do their job searching for evidence.

JMO

 

[bobbymkii]

Questioning the children can only be done in the presence of trained psychologists.

This special mode of interrogation results from the need to protect a witness who is under 15 years of age from repeated trauma, which could result from interrogating the witness several times.

In my country
the main elements of the interview procedure, designed to ensure special protection of interviewed witnesses, are:

- ensuring that the witness is interviewed once, and only in exceptional cases can this activity be repeated (e.g. due to the emergence of new significant circumstances),

- participation of an expert psychologist.

Over here we call it an "appropriate adult" who has to be present with the minor during questioning.

 

[Nikynoo]

She may have been forced into a marriage with her uncle. And he may have treated Sara however (badly) he wanted.
Sara looks so teen-like (and beautiful) in that published photo of her sitting on that queen size bed.

There was something going on in that house.

imo

I hadn't thought of that

 

[Dotta]

 

[BaronessWombat]

Girl found dead at home with ‘constellation’ of injuries ‘had note under pillow’

Urfan Sharif, Beinash Batool and Faisal Malik are due to trial following the death of Sara Sharif in Woking, Surrey in August

www.independent.co.uk

Prosecutor Giles Bedoe told the court that Sara was found to have “a constellation of healed and healing injuries”. They allegedly included a healed fracture to her collar bone, a healed fracture to the hyoid bone in her neck, multiple rib fractures, bruising to her torso and limbs, and a brain haemorrhage.

I also think it would have been mentioned in court and reflected in the charges if there was evidence of sexual assault.

 

[Rusty Braincells]

Over here we call it an "appropriate adult" who has to be present with the minor during questioning.

An appropriate adult is present with children and vulnerable adults who are suspected of a crime and have been detained by the police for questioning.

For a child witness (or victim) there are detailed guidelines and the involvement of a specialised psychologist or psychiatrist may be appropriate.

 

[porkypies]

In that latest photo of Sara with the black hijab, the left side of it is covering more of her face than the right side - looks to me as though it would even obscure her view, which seems odd for a schoolchild.
Her left eye is partially closed compared to her right eye, and other photo's I've looked at do not show this to be a normal feature. Her left cheek is just visibly 'fatter' than her right cheek.

In the photo of her all dressed in white, the hijab is similarly placed.

The fact that whole hijab so carefully is exposing only the minimum amount of her face, is just plain suspicious to me.

 

[Dotta]

Also
In the "white photo" she seems really thin.
JMO

 

[Megnut]

Those photos combined with what we know from the autopsy tell me someone had both no self-control -- and enough self-control to leave marks where no one would see them. Evil.

Jmo

 

[Dotta]

Those photos combined with what we know from the autopsy tell me someone had both no self-control -- and enough self-control to leave marks where no one would see them. Evil.

Jmo

For me, also really evil is using religion
- in this case religious traditional outfit -
to cover nefarious deeds.

It is a slap in the face for all true believers.

Disgusting

JMO

 

[SouthAussie]

.
The two male perpetrators have grown up in the Pakistan culture where almost everyone is religious, yet 70-90% of women are abused (difficult to get a more exact number as much violence goes unreported or uncharged).

Their adaption to Western society sounds like it meant (to them) to hide the things that are illegal in the UK.

Global Human Rights Defence

 

[Officer Dibble]

I hadn't thought of that

It's a very good theory that South Aussie has though in my opinion JMO

 

[Dotta]

It's a very good theory that South Aussie has though in my opinion JMO

Well,

- this weird uncle lived with the family
- HE paid for the tickets
- HE fled
- the note said THIRD PARTY
suggesting sb else apart from parents
- HE was also charged for murder
- the photos of him give me weird vibes
(in the airport photo he looks strangely defiant)

So, who knows?

Nothing was reported about him.
His father in Pakistan never mentioned him either.

But then, on the other hand,
an uncle simply cannot "marry" a niece.
And nothing was mentioned about s.abuse.
He might have been an observer.
But never interfered to help the child.

Mysterious figure

Everything will become clear at trial I guess.

These criminals will be busy blaming one another to save their cowardly skin.

JMO

 

[southdene]

Hello
I've been following this case closely as I find the adults behaviour so astonishing. I now wonder whether they had thought things through to the logical conclusion and realized that ultimately they would all be deported to Pakistan at the end of a UK trial as foreign national offenders. The UK may have no extradition treaty with Pakistan but it has a foreign offender returns deal which may explain the flight response.

 

[SouthAussie]

I wonder how much of a real uncle FM is. Does not carry the paternal family name. Presumably entered the country under a family/relationship visa.

There are fake visa schemes operating from that part of the world.
Eg: (just one example) 'Fake' families smuggled into UK under skilled worker visa, investigation shows