Found Deceased UK - Sarah Everard, 33, London - Clapham Common area, 3 March 2021 *Arrests* #10

[dubmill]

According to a law dictionary: Human remains are “The body of a deceased person, in whole or in parts, regardless of its stage of decomposition.”

I understand why someone would be confused by the terminology and with all the speculation I bet they hope they just said “a body”. Still doesn’t justify saying that we know that something was done to her body, that’s the point I’m trying to make. We’ve only been told that she was found, and she was identified through dental records. Not saying that you did that, but I’ve seen it enough that I had to comment.

Not that it's of any importance, but people wouldn't be confused if the police said they had found human remains. But what the initial statement said was that they had found 'what appear to be' human remains. That wording creates doubt. I'm aware of course of how common that wording has become in media reports ('phone video footage appears to show a man smashing a window').

 

[Mandalas]

It’s one of the videos running at the top of this page.

That's the one! Thank you @shadwell. Of course it would be rolling Websleuths stock footage, as I've barely been able to look at anything else for the past 4 days....

So potentially, the investigation team could have been digging here, if someone had previously reported the Google Maps / bag sighting?

The bag does look similar to the standard builder's bag, and strange that it is bound up in that way. I'd be v surprised if it was anything suspicious, as it it so obvious to the main road, but someone could have been under pressure to dump quickly and make a run for it, and hadn't yet returned... My imagination clearly taking over here, but it is strange. It wouldn't be typical of builders to bind up bags in this way surely (eg. wrapped around the contents, rather than just tied at the top, especially if heavy), but I appreciate it could be any number of things.

Still, given the fact that Sarah's body was discovered in a builder's bag, that this one looks similar, and is situated at a location previously owned /used by WC and family, and is bound in this way, it is worth investigating as possible links to previous criminal activity. The digger in my mind only makes it more suspect, along with the disappearance of the bag in later images.

Edit: typos corrected

 

[cynar]

from a verified Telegraph journalist on Twitter -- short video of the Clapham Common bandstand this afternoon entirely wreathed in flowers. got me in tears
https://twitter.com/katbrown/status/1370692409923936259

 

[Armchair_Defective]

Its very common and they would have to restrain him 24/7 to stop it happening. Head banging is often related to feeling of anger.

My guess is he's angry as he's not in control anymore, it's the only thing he's got left to try and control.

 

[elmomom]

But how are we to know if it is the area of expertise? Ot if they have links to the case unless we are told this.

I see VI mentioned a lot on here under the users name but it doesnt give an explanation as to what the area of expertise is or if it does it isnt very specific.

I appreciate and respect all that have VI status but to be honest I do find it frustrating that they can post a comment and it is then taken as gospel when in fact if it is not their area of expertise or they do not have a connection to the case and they cant provide a link then it is nothing more than speculation which then people assume is fact.

I also dont think VI should be allowed to post about something that is quite clearly been kept quiet on MSM for a specific reason. Just because they can post it does not mean they should. But that is of course my own personal opinion.

This isn't aimed at any of our valued VI but a general observation.

for anyone wondering, WS does keep a list of verified Experts and their area of expertise here
List of Verified Professionals and Verified Insiders

 

[Pinkizzy]

Here's another flasher -
getsurrey.co.uk

CCTV image released after man exposes himself on train

 

[Inspectorbee1234]

Normally in these cases they say a body has been found.

I think the fact they said human remains and had to identify her through dental records says they either found pieces of her or he did something to try and hide her identity.
I suspect they are searching for other parts

 

[elmomom]

Would lye dissolve the plastic used in a builders bag?

Likely not. When you buy bottles of concentrated acid, they are almost always in glass, as the acid does not damage glass, but acid will corrode plastic. Lye is the opposite - it is a base, and it is almost always stored in plastic, as it damages glass, but not some types of plastic. But, I am not sure what type of synthetic material the bags are made of, so I cannot tell for certain.

eta: I have just read further and found that builders bags are mainly polypropylene and I can attest that is the type of plastic most usually used with hydroxides (lye) so it would most likely be impermeable.

 

[elliefant]

UK - Sarah Everard, 33, London, Clapham Common, 3 March 2021 MEDIA MAPS TIMELINE *NO DISCUSSION*

I recommend the Scottish article @Chiatos has referenced in the media thread. Link to post/article is at top of my (this) comment. Lots of info that was given in court


Ms Everard was caught alone on CCTV at quarter past nine, caught again on a camera at 9.28pm, and later caught on the camera of a marked police car at 9.32pm.

At around 9.35pm, a bus camera captured two figures on Poynders Road and a white Vauxhall Astra with its hazard lights flashing.

Another bus camera captured the same car with both front doors open.

On March 2 he began a 12-hour shift at 7pm before going on leave.

He was due back at work on March 8 but on March 5 he reported that he was suffering from stress.

On March 6 he emailed his supervisor to say he did not want to carry a firearm anymore.

 

[tedtink]

We’ve only been told that she was found, and she was identified through dental records

I haven't seen this reported anywhere as fact, are we assuming this?
Only that it would take 'some time' to ID SE.


I know

 

[MancGuy Uk]

The whole thread has become chinese whispers IMO. MSM seem to be getting there stories from here which is ridiculous as most of us are just speculating anyway.

Separating fact from fiction is really difficult at this point.

I never knew I was such a crime expert lol

 

[Pinkizzy]

I'm sure the artist impressions are drawn from memory.

 

[razex]

I haven't seen this reported anywhere as fact, are we assuming this?
Only that it would take 'some time' to ID SE.


I know

"Ms Everard's body, found inside a builder's bag, was identified through the use of dental records, the court also heard."

Sarah Everard: Wayne Couzens appears in court charged with murder

 

[searancke]

He had not been a police officer long.
The Conservatives have been talking about how brilliantly they are doing for increasing recruitment of police officers- police officers I know have for some time been concerned about how they are recruiting now as opposed to decades ago when they even used to assess you in a bar and how you managed your alcohol.
from this there will be a massive review of how officers are recruited.

10 years is quite a long time....

 

[CoverMeCagney]

for anyone wondering, WS does keep a list of verified Experts and their area of expertise here
List of Verified Professionals and Verified Insiders

That is so out of date the majority of posters are no longer with us (in a not posting kinda way, not in a dead kinda way)

 

[JosieJo]

UK - Sarah Everard, 33, London, Clapham Common, 3 March 2021 MEDIA MAPS TIMELINE *NO DISCUSSION*

I recommend the Scottish article @Chiatos has referenced in the media thread. Lots of info that was given in court

Lots of new information on here thanks

 

[JosieJo]

At around 9.35pm, a bus camera captured two figures on Poynders Road and a white Vauxhall Astra with its hazard lights flashing.

Another bus camera captured the same car with both front doors open.

Sarah Everard’s body found in builder’s bag, court told

 

[JosieJo]

White Astra ? Is this a car evere seen outside his address?

 

[DetectiveSophia]

The thing with having so many new British members in the last couple of years, and us all being crammed onto a little island, is there’s always somebody local to a case. Pretty sure LL “wins” for the direct view though!

I’m from the UK and there are millions of us here! I’ll just say that there have been rumours of the press reporting things from this thread and leave it at that.

 

[MsBetsy]

At around 9.35pm, a bus camera captured two figures on Poynders Road and a white Vauxhall Astra with its hazard lights flashing.

Another bus camera captured the same car with both front doors open.

Sarah Everard’s body found in builder’s bag, court told

So the white car is the hire car he was driving. Were the two figures inside the car or outside at that point? Was the car moving while both doors were open? Maybe it was stopped on the road?