UK UK - Sarah Everard, 33, London - Clapham Common area, 3 March 2021 *Arrests* #7

[CuriousObserver1]

He may still have been in London - he could be one of those people who follows a routine even if they lose their job. Would probably not have been Sarah but may well have been someone else. Moo.

He would not have access a badge/warrant card though if it turns out he used that to trick her into stopping and not walking straight away

 

[SW16LP]

I wonder if the 2 people referred to IOPC are going to be the people you would expect to govern the behavior of an officer: the Sergeant and the inspector of the unit.

This has all the hallmarks of the Met protecting their guy. Rinse and repeat behaviour.

MOO

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Sarah Everard disappearance: Family pay tribute to 'kind and strong' missing woman as they appeal for witnesses

The statement from the family refers to Sarah in the past tense - this is unusual IMO unless LE have concrete evidence that the victim is dead

So either there's not enough evidence that *WC* committed murder OR LE want to gather as much evidence as possible before charging him - either way, LE must have something pretty significant that has made enquiry change from kidnap to murder :-(

Yes, a mother especially will always refuse to accept her child is dead unless she sees for herself. A parent’s mind and heart won’t allow it. Something must have been shown to them that’s undeniably an identifying visual confirmation.

 

[Commoner]

I think re the sun article about 2 coppers - it might mean the copper who flashed (WC) and the copper who failed to act appropriately on the report rather than 2 coppers being investigated for flashing. Not sure about the 4 other referrals though.

My other thought - is there any possibility that fast food restaurant referred to is the cabin frequented by police that Sarah passed by on her route home??

That crossed my mind but it just sounds wrong to call it a restaurant. Outlet maybe? Or at a push a cafe.

(The two actual cafe/restaurants on Clapham Common are both closed for renovations. There are fast food places near the southern tip of Clapham Common)

 

[Whitehall 1212]

I think he banged his head to wind down time on the PACE clock. I reckon he wanted to minimise interview and detention time. There was an episode of 24 Hours in Police Custody where a woman did the same thing.

The PACE clock stops when the arrested person leaves the police station for medical reasons and restarts once the suspect returns to the police station.

In the event that questioning has to continue en route (very select circumstances) then the officer has to contemporaneously record the interview and the times.

In hospital a suspect may only be interviewed with medical consent.

 

[Biadee]

In terms of the timings and if there was time to coax between 9:28 when phone call ended and 9:30 when phone last pinged:

Sarah Everard disappearance: House and woods in Kent searched

this suggests she was seen walking alone on a Ring camera at “about 9:30”, so this would suggest that the abduction did not start immediately after the phone call.

However it also means we don’t know how long between her being seen on the Ring doorbell and her phone going off. I don’t know when it would next be expected to Ping if it had remained switched on to give a backstop of when we know it was off by.

 

[LadyL]

I think he banged his head to wind down time on the PACE clock. I reckon he wanted to minimise interview and detention time. There was an episode of 24 Hours in Police Custody where a woman did the same thing.

what's a PACE clock?

 

[hellsbells11]

I was building a theory which has been likely ruled out my the latest info about the staff reporting it, but I am going to put it here anyway...

I was wondering whether he might have exposed himself to a female colleague (poss also friend/lover). If she had reported him it would explain why they knew who he was, but might also explain why it wasn't treated in the right way (the duty officers could have put it down to a 'personal relationship' that wasn't their business to take forward). If his advances were rejected, and he perhaps discovered she'd reported him, he might then have taken it out on SE in anger. The colleague could have then alerted the LE again about her concerns which might have led to him being a POI from early on. All highly unlikely but I wanted to throw it into the mix. JMO

 

[ApparentlyInDenial]

I think it’s likely he was inside IMO. Also- if he was outside the fast food restaurant, wouldn't it say he was outside?

Could be the drive-thru McDonald's just further down Poynders Road.

 

[Lyanna]

If he did indecently expose himself, what if he was wearing a face covering/mask - would have been harder to ID him maybe?

 

[Juliet B]

“At a fast food restaurant” makes me think of a drive through. You can imagine the rest. I’m guessing nobody knew it was WC and the police simply hadn’t followed up yet as they receive so many complaints of IE - which is a story in itself.

Maybe when SE went missing they started looking at recent incidents and his car was flagged - and then was also seen on the cctv linked to Sarah’s disappearance.

 

[Emerald1991]

I saw one a few days ago. It said age: sex: yes please’ no posts since 2012.

Moo.

I saw that too we can't be sure it's him. I don't think it looked like him and its unconfirmed so can't discuss it I don't think.

 

[Blanche]

I think he banged his head to wind down time on the PACE clock. I reckon he wanted to minimise interview and detention time. There was an episode of 24 Hours in Police Custody where a woman did the same thing.

I just hope it hurt real bad !

 

[Richard Yokely]

I wonder if the 2 people referred to IOPC are going to be the people you would expect to govern the behavior of an officer: the Sergeant and the inspector of the unit.

The behaviour of an officer is investigated by their forces Professional Standards Department. In short, if they knew it was him doing the IE then they’ll have to justify why they haven’t dealt with it in a certain way.

 

[Commoner]

Describing this case as "complex" sounds just about right!

Because it's not just those two - there are four others

Wondering if one or more relate to how police responded to first call reporting her missing. Hope not

 

[jslk]

This just gets worse, if that were even possible

 

[Herat]

Could be the drive-thru McDonald's just further down Poynders Road.

That's EXACTLY what I was thinking !

Would that qualify as South London?

 

[IndigoSnow]

I am wondering if the statement put out by SE family (asking people to come forward) suggests that the police are struggling to find sufficient evidence to charge.

 

[Lucy6226]

"Our investigation will look at the actions of the MPS after police received a report on 28 February that a man had exposed himself at a fast food restaurant in South London."Our investigation will look at the actions of the MPS after police received a report on 28 February that a man had exposed himself at a fast food restaurant in South London."

Note the official IPCC statement (my bold) says 'at' not 'in'- a small pendantic point, but one that makes a difference to likely amount of CCTV available

I'm thinking drive thru?

 

[ScottishWebsleuth96]

what's a PACE clock?

The PACE clock is the time fame for keeping a suspect in custody as set out in the Police And Criminal Evidence Act