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His father, Matthew Crooks, 53, told CNN he was trying to figure out 'what the hell is going on' but would 'wait until I talk to law enforcement' before speaking.

State voter records show Crooks was a registered Republican. According to US media, when he was aged 17 he donated $15 to the liberal ActBlue political action committee on January 20, 2021 - Biden's Inauguration Day.
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Trump gunman is 20-year-old registered Republican who donated to Biden

Thomas Matthew Crooks was shot dead by a US Secret Service sniper after he opened fire on the former President during a rally in Pennsylvania.
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Crooks was a registered Republican, the Associated Press reported. The election in November would have been the first time he had been old enough to vote in a presidential race.

But in 2021, Crooks, then 17, made a $15 donation to a political action committee that raises funds for left-leaning and Democratic politicians, the news agency reported, according to a Federal Election Commission filing
www.telegraph.co.uk

Trump rally shooting live: Trump shooter is 20-year-old Republican, says FBI

A 20-year-old registered Republican has been identified by the FBI as the gunman believed to have attempted to assassinate Donald Trump.
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abstr said:
Biometrics are things such as face recognition
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And Pennsylvania uses facial recognition in evaluating its drivers licenses.
Probably not too hard to tap into that - via the Pennsylvania State Police, who have access and use the system - and quickly get an ID on this guy.


To mitigate the risk of fraud, including identity theft, PennDOT utilizes state-of-the-art facial recognition technology to validate the individual's photograph does not match another photograph in PennDOT's database under a different name(s).

Facial recognition is utilized by PennDOT and the Pennsylvania State Police (PSP). PennDOT utilizes it to mitigate the risk of license fraud/identity theft. PSP utilizes facial recognition for criminal investigative purposes.

PennDOT Driver and Vehicle Services
 
indicolite22 said:
Perhaps they did, but didn't see a weapon? The roof he was on had an incline.
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Good point. But again if rally goers saw enough to then take photos and videos, surely it could be visible for secret service too? I'd imagine they would have been stationed at multiple places and therefore have different angles. JMO.
 
Moonstrawbs said:
Good point. But again if rally goers saw enough to then take photos and videos, surely it could be visible for secret service too? I'd imagine they would have been stationed at multiple places and therefore have different angles. JMO.
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Inconceivable that they didn't see it if people in the crowd did. The optics on their rifles could have identified one if he were on the moon!
 
Secret Service under scrutiny as Oversight Committee summons director

The Oversight Committee - the main investigative board of the US House of Representatives - has summoned US Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle to testify at a hearing on 22 July.
"Americans demand answers about the assassination attempt of President Trump," the panel said in a statement on social media.
At a news conference earlier, FBI special agent Kevin Rojek said “it is surprising” that the gunman was able to open fire on the stage before the Secret Service killed him.
But when asked if there was a failure of security, he said they were "not gonna make that assessment" with an active investigation.
The Secret Service was not at the news conference.

www.bbc.co.uk

Donald Trump rally shooting: Donald Trump calls on Americans to 'stand united' after assassination attempt

The Secret Service, which protects the former president, is facing questions after the shooting at Saturday's rally.
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When a president or former president has come to our city in the past, members of Secret Service have stationed themselves on each of the rooftops.

Honestly I can see why some people are thinking conspiracy on this incident.
 
This is all very disturbing and I fear it will beget more violence. I hope Trump makes a full recovery. I’m sure it was very frightening, hence his angrily telling the audience to “fight.” I hope he will deescalate in future comments. Words have power, as @Tricia so often says. Both sides speaking calmly can go a long way toward promoting peace and heading off violence. But of course there are always those who will choose violence.

I remember when Bobby Kennedy was gunned down after winning the California primary in 1968. That had been a volatile campaign with Lyndon Johnson deciding not to run, Hubert Humphrey stepping in, peace candidate Eugene Mc Carthy running, and on the day Martin Luther King was assasinated, Bobby Kennedy said this:

“What we need in the United States is not division; what we need in the United States is not hatred; what we need in the United States is not violence and lawlessness, but is love, and wisdom, and compassion toward one another, and a feeling of justice toward those who still suffer within our country, whether they be white or whether they be black. ... let us dedicate ourselves to what the Greeks wrote so many years ago: to tame the savageness of man and make gentle the life of this world. Let us dedicate ourselves to that, and say a prayer for our country and for our people.”[30]
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Assassination of Robert F. Kennedy - Wikipedia

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Not long before Bobby Kennedy was killed he gave a speech at U.C. Davis near Sacramento, the state capitol. My husband was a local newspaper photographer and had the opportunity to take photos from close vantage points, so Kennedy’s murder hit us hard. We were in our early 20’s and it seemed that the world was going mad. Now, as we edge toward 80, it’s going mad again. Bobby Kennedy’s words are still as true now as they were then.

JMO
 
IceIce9 said:
Still wouldn’t it get their attention to see someone on a roof?
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www.bbc.co.uk

BBC Verify: How close was the gunman to Trump?

Joe Inwood explains where the gunman was when he attempted to assassinate former President Trump.
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This video at about 1:43 clearly shows the counter sniper watching him. He would categorically have been able to see a rifle!

Why didn't he shoot him?
 
GRT said:
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I think so, too. Especially given that we've seen photos of the shooter on the roof getting ready to shoot, and we know police sharpshooters on another roof killed him after he fired.

That means police or SS should have spotted and taken him out before he could fire.
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It is hard to believe the elite Secret Service could be so incompetent.

No wonder so many are thinking conspiracy.
 
Secret Service had one job last night - and failed spectacularly

Frank Gardner
Security correspondent

The FBI may be leading the investigation into how this could have happened, but the finger of blame points clearly at the Secret Service.

They have one job – to protect America’s presidents, both current and former – and in that they failed spectacularly last night.

It has been 43 years since the last assassination attempt on a serving US president when Ronald Reagan was shot in the lung but survived.

Today US politicians, and the public, want to know how a would-be assassin was able to crawl onto a rooftop vantage point, armed with a rifle and loose off four shots towards the podium, all in an area that was supposed to have been cleared.

The investigation already underway involves the FBI, the Secret Service and the Department of Homeland Security.

The Director of the Secret Service, Kimberly Cheatle, has been summoned to testify before the US House of Representatives on 22 July.

www.bbc.co.uk

Donald Trump rally shooting: Donald Trump calls on Americans to 'stand united' after assassination attempt

The Secret Service, which protects the former president, is facing questions after the shooting at Saturday's rally.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
IceIce9 said:
It is hard to believe the elite Secret Service could be so incompetent.

No wonder so many are thinking conspiracy.
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When Trump wins, which is pretty inevitable now - even more so than previously, I'm betting he will surround himself with an absolutely massive private army/Presidential guard type arrangement. The Supreme Court has said that a President has essentially unchecked power.

The world just got a lot scarier half a day ago!
 
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It is 'surprising' the gunman was able to open fire on the stage before Secret Service killed him, FBI special agent says

An Associated Press analysis of more than a dozen videos and photos from the scene of the Donald Trump rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, as well as satellite imagery of the site, shows the alleged shooter was able to get astonishingly close to the stage.

The roof where the body lay was less than 150 meters from where Trump was speaking. For reference, 150 meters is a distance at which US army recruits must hit a scaled human-sized silhouette to qualify with the M-16 rifle. The AR-15, like the shooter at the Trump rally had, is the semi-automatic civilian version of the military M-16.

Asked at a press conference whether law enforcement did not know the shooter was on the roof until he began firing, Kevin Rojek, the special agent in charge of the FBI’s Pittsburgh Field Office, responded that “that is our assessment at this time”.

“It is surprising” that the gunman was able to open fire on the stage before the Secret Service killed him, he said.

www.theguardian.com

Trump rally shooting live: questions raised over security service failings after assassination attempt

Spectator and suspect, named as Thomas Matthew Crooks, killed in shooting at Pennsylvania rally
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www.cbsnews.com

Trump rally attendee says he saw alleged shooter "move from roof to roof"

An attendee at the Trump rally told CBS Pittsburgh he saw the alleged shooter on a rooftop about "200 to 250 yards" away
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LE evacuated neighbors of the shooter's parents in the middle of the night and told them they could not return until noon on Sunday as they executed a search warrant on the family home of the shooter on Milford Dr in Bethel Park, and conducted a bomb sweep of the neighborhood.
 
"We do not believe that the attempt to eliminate and assassinate Trump was organised by the current authorities," Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters.

"But the atmosphere around candidate Trump...provoked what America is confronting today.

"After numerous attempts to remove candidate Trump from the political arena - using first legal tools, the courts, prosecutors, attempts to politically discredit and compromise the candidate - it was obvious to all outside observers that his life was in danger."

 
imstilla.grandma said:
"We do not believe that the attempt to eliminate and assassinate Trump was organised by the current authorities," Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters.

"But the atmosphere around candidate Trump...provoked what America is confronting today.

"After numerous attempts to remove candidate Trump from the political arena - using first legal tools, the courts, prosecutors, attempts to politically discredit and compromise the candidate - it was obvious to all outside observers that his life was in danger."

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So, in three paragraphs he goes from:

We don't think Biden did it

To

Biden did it
 
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