Found Deceased UT - MacKenzie "Kenzie" Lueck, 23, Salt Lake City, 17 June 2019 #4

[VAgirlatheart]

So sorry if this has been mentioned.. I live in Dallas and just heard about this case so there’s no way I can’t go back 4 threads lol .. but I did see someone ask about why the lyft driver didn’t take her all the way home and why she would be meeting someone at a park at 3 am... I think they need to just go through her phone and that will tell them more ... here’s my theory/theories and why.

My number #1 theory and most logical reason in my mind is that she texted someone to meet her and drive her the rest of the way ... if the park was 20 mins away from her house It’s very logical she wanted to save money. I completely understand she had a good job however, anywhere you can save you will. I’ve actually done before.

Now if they ruled out the lyft driver, I have a hard time believing that there wasn’t any communication with the last person via text. She wouldn’t have known where to meet this person unless they told her ... now how was that? I don’t know.. cell phone calls, dating apps, direct messages would be my guess.

That’s the only logical thing I can think of if they truly ruled out the lyft driver.

So either the lyft driver is a person on interest but the officers don’t want him to know and just saying that.

She met someone to drive her the rest of the way home.

Or she met a complete stranger at 3 am at a park (and I just can’t see a logical person doing then, but I’ve been surprised before)

 

[poppydarling]

Do SB's ever have more than one SD at a time?

Ever? Yes. One-five is typical until they build a connection that makes them trend to a more monogamous relationship.

 

[LaborDayRN]

Hmm. What was your sample size?

On this Sugar Dating website, it encourages only attractive people to join. If sexual activity wasn't an extremely high priority for these people, unattractive people would also be encouraged to join.

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This is only my opinion but I'm thinking the SD's want something "pretty" to flash around on their arm.

 

[slcmike]

I can’t seem to find it on my phone, not for lack of trying...

You need to use the cache feature on a google search. There are a few different pics that can be pulled up from the 2nd IG account, via 3rd party sites.

 

[Whiteorchids]

She doesn't: Jasmine Fiore

Beautiful Jasmine Fiore a model was found dead in her suitcase thrown in a dumpster about 15 min from me in CA. She was identified by the serial number on her breast implants. Her BF/ husband quickie wedding had pulled out all her teeth and cut her finger tips hoping she couldn’t be identified in the suitcase. Her BF was on a reality show and he took off to Canada when LE and FBI was after him. He hung himself in his hotel room.

Very tragic story. I followed it because it happened so close to me.

 

[smalleagles]

If I remember correctly the post said something to the effect "all black like my soul and heart", referring to her outfit. Like @smalleagles said,


I took it as a sarcastic comment as well. I'm the same age as ML and regularly hear similar comments used lightly. If there was any other substantiating evidence of similar behavior from ML I'd be worried, but it seems more like a one-off comment.

This is precisely what I meant! Thank you @WillCut72

 

[wary]

Point taken. It depends I guess on how many relationships ML handles at one time.
(No judgment intended. I have daughters; and my heart goes out to her; she was handling a lot.)

Is she comfortable with juggling family calls, work calls, sorority friend calls, and 'gentleman' calls, all on one phone?
For me, that would be too much multi tasking on one device.
I would probably keep a burner phone for my side job.... but that's just me.

I think that the multitude of communication apps might make it easier to keep life sorted out. One set of communications on WeChat, another on WhatsApp, another on Kik, etc.

 

[crhedBngr]

This is only my opinion but I'm thinking the SD's want something "pretty" to flash around on their arm.

Yep. Exactly.

So the married males who are SD's are not satisfied to be in the company of their wives.

As someone with a stable relationship of 30-plus years, this is really, really sad.

And, I agree with those who believe young women are valued for their looks and appearance only in such a relationship.

Here are a couple of online stories for perusal:

'She’s often powerless': Inside the world of Sugar Baby arrangements

Inside the murky world of 'sugar dating,' where arrangement sites ask for how much money you're looking for and to rate your level of sex drive

We're Sugar Babies. This Is What It's Like.

 

[BelleIsle]

Belle, thank you so much for putting my feelings into words. This sugar lifestyle worries me, makes me sad for the girls. While it is dressed up to sound “empowering” I feel it can be damaging emotionally. Especially the woman’s/SB’s power is based on their looks. What happens when they age?

(((hugs))) Thank you for thanking me. I always worry when I see young women giving their power away, and they don't even realize they are doing it...or why they are doing it. We have a long way to go as far as a society that doesn't value money as the ultimate measure of success.

 

[LucasDAP]

Ever? Yes. One-five is typical until they build a connection that makes them trend to a more monogamous relationship.

Basically, “dating casually”, as her friends had mentioned. You, in a way, test the waters until you decide which person is more compatible. Same thing people do on Tinder, lots of matches, some dates, a relationship here and there.

 

[Gardenista]

Is this on Instagram? And what is her user name?

Yes, IG. We can't post the acct name here.

 

[Snoop Sister]

Yes, IG. We can't post the acct name here.

Ok thanks

 

[ksmith3271]

I don’t mean to sound morbid, as I am hoping and praying for ML’s safe return, but at what point are search teams and dogs called in? I realize there is no sign of foul play, as in a trail of evidence, but ML has been missing for almost 9 days now. I couldn’t help but notice when mapping the park several national forests and large bodies of water, all within / under a one hour drive. The red square on the attached image represents the park. Note national forests on 3 sides as well as rivers and lakes.

 

[Blueberry2720]

Is this on Instagram? And what is her user name?

Thank you for this post. Seems there is a sub-group of posters here who know more than others (e.g. ML's "secret" user name, "other" IG acct). Fine, but either share the info with everyone here if allowed, take it to a private conversation, or do not discuss it at all. I honestly find it rude to be discussing a secret SM account and associated hashtags, comments, images, etc. found there, among the posters here who have no clue what you are seeing, reading, and discussing.
JMO

 

[RustyNail19]

Also, I'm by no means an expert on SD/SB relationships, but in all the ones my friends have been in, neither person develops an emotional attachment to the other... most commonly (personally) I've seen that these girls just text or call the SD sometimes, in exchange for sums of cash. (highly popular among college students who don't have time to work and need to pay off loans)

So lonely old men pay for someone to be their friend? That just seems painful and would make me feel worse about myself tbh.

 

[Gunslinging Granny]

This is only my opinion but I'm thinking the SD's want something "pretty" to flash around on their arm.

The percentage of married sugar daddies is anywhere from 33-47%.
Sugar Daddy Capitals Revealed By New Survey | HuffPost
Wealthy married men usually don't want to be seen with a sugar baby on their arms. Divorce is expensive. The women must be attractive to be a sugar baby because they are used for sex.

 

[BelleIsle]

Also, I'm by no means an expert on SD/SB relationships, but in all the ones my friends have been in, neither person develops an emotional attachment to the other... most commonly (personally) I've seen that these girls just text or call the SD sometimes, in exchange for sums of cash. (highly popular among college students who don't have time to work and need to pay off loans)

I thought that emotion is one of the reasons that this was different than being an escort. I'm really confused.

BBM Call and text just to have a chat? Not sexually motivated? It blows my mind that a grown man would pay just to chat with a young woman about her day, or to have her ask him about his. But then again...if it is about power...

 

[SoCalGirl]

I said this earlier, but I think everyone is getting hung up on Kenzie’s facial expressions and body language, which was taken from many minutes of surveillance footage.

This is a snapshot in time, where the video is unlikely to match up with what the still picture is conveying.

Someone could freeze-frame images of her looking happy, sad, scared, excited, depressed; whatever.

None of these would necessarily be genuine depictions of her what she was feeling at the time.

In fact, they almost certainly are not representative of what they appear to reflect.

MassGuy, you always make a lot of sense.

 

[PommyMommy]

Can someone explain the “rules” for this thread??? I had a post containing my OPINION of what happened deleted because I merely mentioned possible involvement in the SD/SB lifestyle and yet its being discussed above in detail. What is the rule exactly? And someone please explain why it’s taboo when this is very clearly a possibility of what happened. Isn’t that what this place is for? To discuss what possibly happened to her???

See if this helps:

UT - UT - MacKenzie "Kenzie" Lueck, 23, Salt Lake City, 17 June 2019 #4

 

[BelleIsle]

Ever? Yes. One-five is typical until they build a connection that makes them trend to a more monogamous relationship.

Are the SB looking at marriage/life partner as the long term goal?