VA - Alexis Murphy, 17, Shipman, 3 Aug 2013 - **ARREST** - #3

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astridxx said:
But the judge is going to have to look at his criminal history and determine if he is a.) a flight risk, b.) a danger to himself, c.) a danger to others. I don't know if they take nolle prossed charges into consideration but simply looking at his rap sheet you can tell he is a vagrant criminal and is a danger to others and himself. Off the top of my head I can't recall if he was ever convicted of any felonies per http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+19.2-297.1 but I'd be willing to bet they won't let him back out on the streets.
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Yeah, it looks to me like maybe he didn't have anything serious enough to warrant having his DNA on file, but it's hard to be sure.
 
margarita25 said:
Maybe thats why this monster looks so smug. :(
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I was thinking he looked a little worried in the pic from court today, but that may be just the way his eyes turn down in the corners. I hope like hell she's found. Like NOW.

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astridxx said:
But the judge is going to have to look at his criminal history and determine if he is a.) a flight risk, b.) a danger to himself, c.) a danger to others. I don't know if they take nolle prossed charges into consideration but simply looking at his rap sheet you can tell he is a vagrant criminal and is a danger to others and himself. Off the top of my head I can't recall if he was ever convicted of any felonies per http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+19.2-297.1 but I'd be willing to bet they won't let him back out on the streets.
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They're also not going to risk overturning a conviction because he wasn't given due process at a bail hearing. In other words, the state better have compelling evidence and an even more compelling argument. A judge isn't going to let them get by with 'but he's a danger'. They'll need to prove it. A slew of much lesser crimes isn't going to cut it.
 
Trackergd said:
Wondering about that too. I have seen abandoned cars sitting in tow yards for quite a while before someone thought to check...on a few occasions, they had bodies in the trunk. Sometimes they are picked up by independent tow trucks and hauled off for chop shops or scrap. Dumped in a river or lake, hidden in woods or inside a structure like an abandoned garage or barn are some other ideas.
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margarita25 said:
I think they should search this area. JMO: (thirtyish miles south of gas station area).

http://goo.gl/maps/GuA3B
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good thinking... i live next door to the park and it connects amherst, nelson, and buckingham... another thought too... I had to guess at a place I would choose crabtree falls off 56 west.. up by the parkway... living here... it would be a much better choice, especially if he had anything to do with any of the other cases up on the parkway... which you get to by going up 56 west... 56 by the way also goes through Shipman... and thats not from a map, I drive it all the time...
 
Did anyone think that he had to have had someone drive him to or from Charlottesville to stash her car (if he did). If he was by himself, then she must have drove the car to Charlottesville. Think about it for a second...in a crazy, tv show kind of scenario.... What if he bumped into her car, told her he had a buddy in Charlottesvile that could fix it, tricked her into driving up there...it would explain why the phone last pinged across from his house. There's no way this young girl would have stopped for any man unless she thought she was involved in an accident. Obviously her car wasn't disabled because it drove to Charlottesville. Idk just an idea.
 
margarita25 said:
I think they should search this area. JMO: (thirtyish miles south of gas station area).

http://goo.gl/maps/GuA3B
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Possibly, but from looking at the map, it looks like that's pretty far out of his comfort zone, which seems to run along 29 roughly from Culpeper to Lovingston. I'd be more inclined to guess he took her north of Charlottesville.
 
carbuff said:
Yeah, it looks to me like maybe he didn't have anything serious enough to warrant having his DNA on file, but it's hard to be sure.
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As stated earlier (or in another thread?), in Virginia once you're arrested for a felony or any violent crime, your DNA is taken and entered into a databank. It doesn't matter if you're convicted or not, once you're arrested they get your DNA. It's all in the booking process, just like getting fingerprints.

This became effective in Virginia January 1, 2003. His issue with Samantha Clarke was in 2010 (after 2003), so his DNA is on file with the state.

(I didn't go back and look at his wrap sheet since 2001 but I am sure there's other things that warrant having DNA on file)
 
If he has a car like the one he does

we can assume he hunts

they need to talk everyone he knows and find out where his hunting grounds are or even where he fishes
 
teknoge3k said:
As stated earlier (or in another thread?), in Virginia once you're arrested for a felony or any violent crime, your DNA is taken and entered into a databank. It doesn't matter if you're convicted or not, once you're arrested they get your DNA. It's all in the booking process, just like getting fingerprints.

This became effective in Virginia January 1, 2003. His issue with Samantha Clarke was in 2010 (after 2003), so his DNA is on file with the state.

(I didn't go back and look at his wrap sheet since 2001 but I am sure there's other things that warrant having DNA on file)
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Somebody else (astridxx?) posted that the DNA submission happens when the proceedings reach a certain point. It doesn't appear that the arson charge made it that far. The burglary charge was in the 90's so it wouldn't be from that.

I need to go look that post up, but right now there's dinner...I'll get it when I get back.
 
Well, I broke down and read The Hook story, didn't want to do it because that stuff scares me, but I did. I see this "silence of the lambs" type became increasingly bold with each passing incident. Showing up at a newspaper office and giving an interview? Next, hanging around at a local gas station in broad daylight? Seems to me like he was enjoying being in plain sight, going about his life, comfortable that no one in the community knew who he was. But, I'm glad that clearly, the FBI didn't buy his "woe is me" story and jumped right on it. Now, to find these girls. The epilogue of the story is telling, after the interview, neither his lawyer or the Hook were able to contact him.

As far as possible burial places, not that I presume to know more than the FBI, but it may be a question of looking into property records, not of land this guy owns, but of relatives. It's not uncommon for people in this area to die with rural land holdings that may be in prolonged probate, sometimes people who have land move away for jobs and they don't come back for decades. He didn't own that place in Nelson County, he was a tenant. So, he may have moved the victim to "the place."
 
Claudia said:
I was thinking he looked a little worried in the pic from court today, but that may be just the way his eyes turn down in the corners. I hope like hell she's found. Like NOW.

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His mouth turns down in the corners too. I agree he is worried, worried that he's never going to see the light of day again! Remorseful? No, he doesn't appear to be. JMO.
 
writer411 said:
Well, I broke down and read The Hook story, didn't want to do it because that stuff scares me, but I did. I see this "silence of the lambs" type became increasingly bold with each passing incident. Showing up at a newspaper office and giving an interview? Next, hanging around at a local gas station in broad daylight? Seems to me like he was enjoying being in plain sight, going about his life, comfortable that no one in the community knew who he was. But, I'm glad that clearly, the FBI didn't buy his "woe is me" story and jumped right on it. Now, to find these girls. The epilogue of the story is telling, after the interview, neither his lawyer or the Hook were able to contact him.

As far as possible burial places, not that I presume to know more than the FBI, but it may be a question of looking into property records, not of land this guy owns, but of relatives. It's not uncommon for people in this area to die with rural land holdings that may be in prolonged probate, sometimes people who have land move away for jobs and they don't come back for decades. He didn't own that place in Nelson County, he was a tenant. So, he may have moved the victim to "the place."
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Good thinking. I'm sure LE is checking this, I hope so!

I'm thinking she may be somewhere unrelated to him, though, perhaps somewhere that can not be tied to him....who really knows. :(

Ok, so other infamous serial killers...need to look at them...(yuk), and what type of specific areas they used as far as burial grounds for multiple victims. :(

I hate typing all this. Her poor mama! :( So unfair that someone can just do this!
 
carbuff said:
Somebody else (astridxx?) posted that the DNA submission happens when the proceedings reach a certain point. It doesn't appear that the arson charge made it that far. The burglary charge was in the 90's so it wouldn't be from that.

I need to go look that post up, but right now there's dinner...I'll get it when I get back.
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It doesn't happen in the proceedings, it happens in the booking process. The jail gets your DNA and submits it to the databank before you ever even get to court. If he was arrested for arson (violent), then they took his DNA when they took his fingerprints at the jail.
 
Claudia said:
I was thinking he looked a little worried in the pic from court today, but that may be just the way his eyes turn down in the corners. I hope like hell she's found. Like NOW.

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I think AstroKitty pointed out yesterday that he looks like he wears dentures but doesn't have them in.
 
margarita25 said:
His mouth turns down in the corners too. I agree he is worried, worried that he's never going to see the light of day again! Remorseful? No, he doesn't appear to be. JMO.
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Nope, no remorse on his face at all that I can see, either. Worried, yes.

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Earlier I wondered about sicko fellow creepo friends / alliances he may have. I'm thinking he is the type to act alone, but I still want to know, if he is a meth head, who are his meth contacts? Maybe one of them has some land or something....
 

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