VA - Amy Bradley, 23, Petersburg, 24 March 1998 - #2 - ***READ FIRST POST***

[ChateauMarmont]

Richard Foster
Style Weekly
Tuesday April 27, 1999


http://web.archive.org/web/20001020191436/http://richmond.com/StyleWeekly/output.cfm?ID=1667

“Un momento. Un momento, por favor,” Iva said quickly, frantically waving to her younger brother Paul Noblin, who was also in the room. “OK, OK,” the man on the other end said in a thick Spanish accent

It was to be the first promising lead in the puzzling disappearance of Amy Bradley, a vivacious, attractive 23-year-old from Chesterfield County, a 1996 graduate of Longwood College, who was a star basketball player there and the only student in the school’s history to receive a full athletic scholarship. The strange nature of the case has attracted national attention, from a front page story in the New York Times to the “Leeza” show, “America’s Most Wanted” and “Unsolved Mysteries,” which is slated to air a segment about Amy on May 28. Cosmopolitan magazine is also planning a piece on Amy.

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Iva’s brother Paul hustled across the street of the Bradleys’ suburban Chesterfield neighborhood to summon a close friend and neighbor of Iva’s who speaks Spanish. Within minutes, the woman was sitting at Iva’s desk, talking to the Spanish-speaking man and hurriedly taking notes. Though her friend was speaking and writing in Spanish, Iva could tell from the excited sound of the woman’s voice that the man must be saying something important.

If true, what the man said was not only important but explosive. According to a lawsuit the Bradleys filed against Royal Caribbean Cruises Ltd. last month alleging negligent security and other charges, the Spanish-speaking man told Iva’s friend that he saw Amy — four days after her disappearance — being forced into a taxicab at the terminal at San Juan, Puerto Rico shortly after Rhapsody of the Seas docked there on March 28, 1998, the day that should have been the last day of the family’s aborted week-long cruise.

Providing previously unpublished details not mentioned in the lawsuit, Bradley’s lawyers say the witness was a Puerto Rican local who was studying to be a police officer. He called Iva Bradley after seeing a story about Amy on Puerto Rican television and recognizing her photo as the woman he had seen just days before.

Andrew Hall, one of the Miami-based attorneys representing the family in the lawsuit, says the witness claims that Amy was under the control of a man wearing a baseball cap.

“It was a clear day and she passed right by [the witness],” Hall says of the Puerto Rican man’s account. “She was firmly held. Her appearance was not that of a happy person, to say the least. The [witness] thought they were fighting. They didn’t look like they were getting along, like they were disagreeing.”

The witness said the man in the ballcap then guided a disoriented-looking Amy into a taxi, leading her much like a policeman would direct a suspect into the back seat of a squad car, according to Hall.

Hall won’t say more about the alleged abductor or the eyewitness for fear of harming the investigation, he says, though he adds there is a suspect in Amy’s disappearance.

 

[ChateauMarmont]

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Amy was especially excited about the cruise because her brother Brad was home from George Mason University. Tall and athletic like his sister and just two-and-a-half years younger, Brad was also one of her best buddies. The two would go out with friends or just hang out together hitting Chesterfield bars, singing karaoke, throwing darts, shooting pool or bowling.

About 7 a.m. Saturday March 21, Amy and Brad boarded a plane at Richmond International Airport. Their parents left an hour ahead on another flight. Amy and Brad were both nervous about flying, but did crosswords and listened to Amy’s portable CD player to distract themselves.

Late that night, they took in a limbo party, dancing to the steel-drum music of the ship’s Calypso band, Blue Orchid. Amy struck up a conversation with the band’s bassist, a pudgy, bald Grenadan nicknamed “Yellow,” short for “High Yellow,” Caribbean slang for light black skin. It was typical Amy.

Amy and Brad smoked for awhile, watching the waves and laughing about the limbo contest. They also talked about the next day in Curacao and Amy asked Brad if he had ever been on a jet ski.

On the way back to the room, he saw the ship’s chief security officer standing at the elevator. Ron asked for help, and the officer nodded noncommittally, staying where he was. Nearly an hour had passed.

In the meantime, Brad went up to the pool deck to sit and watch in case Amy walked by. Yellow, the bass player, approached him. “Hey man, I’m sorry about your sister,” he said. He asked what happened and then told Brad to wait while he got a friend to listen, too. Brad, who says that Yellow told him he was feeling “guilty,” remembers the experience as “just odd.” After they got back to Richmond, the Bradleys found a post from another Rhapsody passenger on a cruise-ship computer bulletin board warning female passengers to stay away from Yellow for unspecified reasons.

Furthermore, Iva Bradley says two young female passengers, both college freshmen, claim to have seen Amy and Yellow on the ship’s glass elevator, heading up to the disco at 5:30 a.m. Tuesday, the time of her disappearance. The teens said they saw Yellow leave the disco without Amy about 15 minutes later.

(Mentioned on “America’s Most Wanted,” Yellow is the only person to be publicly named a suspect. A Royal Caribbean spokesperson says Yellow voluntarily submitted to a polygraph for the FBI and passed.)

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I find the following odd ... if someone can get a private jet to fly a family home , why would they not get a decent hotel room ? JMO this doesn't make sense

Royal Caribbean paid for motel rooms for the family, and Illinois Mutual CEO Mike McCord disembarked with his wife, Kay, to provide emotional support for the Bradleys. The multimillionaire fetched coffee and hugged family members.

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The Bradleys checked into The Otra Banda, a rundown casino hotel on Curacao, late Tuesday afternoon. From the room, they contacted the U.S. Embassy and family members, whom they had been in touch with throughout the day, asking them to call authorities for help. (Mary Kristensen, Iva’s younger sister, recalls that Iva could only muster a pained squeak on the phone. Ron had to take over.)

Feeling helpless, the Bradleys exited the ship again Friday, March 27, in St. Thomas while the FBI investigated. McCord, the Illinois Mutual CEO, chartered a private Lear jet for the family to fly from St. Thomas back to Richmond. They left on March 28, the same day that Rhapsody of the Seas returned to the docks at San Juan, and the same day, unbeknownst to the Bradleys, that the witness claimed to see Amy there. It had been four days since her father saw her sitting in the lounge chair on the cabin balcony.

Uhm ...... something isn't adding up JMO. Getting off the boat with the company CEO ? Checking into a run down hotel ?

And flying off a leer jet ?

Uhm ...

 

[ChateauMarmont]

January 13 2004 FBI Page , Shows suspect sketches

http://web.archive.org/web/20040113021035/http://www.fbi.gov/mostwant/kidnap/bradley.htm

 

[Tabs1]

Is there any way to access the law suit material, the Bradleys V RC?

I would really like to know more about all these folk that supposedly saw Amy living freely, and not under duress....

 

[ChateauMarmont]

Do you have a link to this? I am interested in the context of that statement since Amy's abduction definitely involves an organized and criminal conspiracy.

I believe it was stated late in thread one or early on in thread 2. I'm good at a lot of things pertaining to finding stuff --

But finding specific posts on WS is not one of them for some reason lol.

FA did make that statement though

 

[elepher50]

FWIW, DC is an employee on Allure. I knew the ship's name was familiar.

Thanks WG:

Yes, DC is an employee on the Allure and is a bit of a celebrity on the ship. Here is a YouTube video of DC:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNx7BQr3FnE"]David Cato, Allure of the Seas - YouTube[/ame]

 

[ChateauMarmont]

Case # Bradley's vs RC

Case Number 1999-7292-CA-01

 

[danzn16]

I posted this quote and link before, but was just thinking, wondering if the Bradley's actually have spoken to Amy since she disappeared. There had to be some grounds for the judge to make the ruling of fraud against them in that civil case.

snipped and BBM

This is a great question.

 

[masootz]

Case # Bradley's vs RC

Case Number 1999-7292-CA-01

do any of our wsers have access to lexis nexis? surely someone on here is in law school or is a lawyer. i'm pretty sure you can get the entire case on lexis nexis.

 

[masootz]

found online on another mb (not sure of accuracy): "

Appellate Court Affirms Trial Court's Dismissal Of Action Based On Plaintiffs' Commission Of A Fraud Upon The Court

Bradley v. Royal Caribbean Cruises, Ltd., 2002 Fla. App. LEXIS 3550 (March 20, 2002)

Plaintiffs filed two different suits against defendant cruise line in connection with the disappearance of their 23-year-old daughter, last seen aboard RHAPSODY OF THE SEAS during a trip between Puerto Rico and Curacao in 1998. One lawsuit alleged negligence by defendant in its handling of the girl's disappearance; the other lawsuit was for wrongful death (even though no evidence ever came to light that the daughter was dead). Both lawsuits were dismissed in October 2000 when the trial judge found the plaintiffs had "perpetrated a fraud on the court" by giving false answers to the defense in depositions. Specifically, the court concluded the Bradleys had intentionally concealed the existence of over 100 witnesses who reported seeing Amy living freely and under no duress at various times after her disappearance. During discovery the Bradleys had identified only three witnesses, all of whom believed they saw someone "looking like Amy" who might have been under possible duress.

The Bradleys appealed the dismissal and Florida's 3rd District Court of Appeal affirmed the lower court's ruling. While Florida's appellate court often takes several months to issue a ruling, the 3rd District issued its order affirming the dismissal less than one week after oral argument. Royal Caribbean was represented by Jeffrey Maltzman and Darren Friedman of KRM's Miami office and Miami appellate attorney Lauri Ross.

http://www.kayerose.com/articles/articles40.html "

 

[masootz]

also, i googled the case # and found a ws thread from 2011 that has all of the same information we're talking about now. i read three pages and it was like being in bizarro world because it's exactly the same stuff we've been talking about for the past month. the circle of sleuth i guess.

 

[Cazzie]

also, i googled the case # and found a ws thread from 2011 that has all of the same information we're talking about now. i read three pages and it was like being in bizarro world because it's exactly the same stuff we've been talking about for the past month. the circle of sleuth i guess.

Can you link the thread, plz? Not finding it via Google (nor WS Search). TIA...

 

[danzn16]

Hi SB,

Here is the link for the video - I moved it to a private area on Youtube. The intent was not to hide it from WS members. It was moved as there was some you-tubers subscribing to my personal YouTube channel which made me a bit uncomfortable. The video starts at about the 3:40 mark.

AAV documentary Venezuela - YouTube

eleph

finally getting to watch this. these men are really sad. it is sad in this world people have to pay for "companionship" and incredibly more sad that women in poor countries have to resort to this is pay for their livelihoods. it breaks my heart what they have to do!! so sick! i'm still unsure how this is related to Amy's case other than her picture being on their website. Sounds like they are just crumby and put whatever picture of women they can find on the internet on their site (on they used to since now I think posters have stated they no longer do this??? BUT where did they get the picture!?!). Not sure why they did that in the first place since in the video they said they dont try to get the most beautiful women but just regular pretty girls to be girlfriends. Maybe they tried to make it seem llike the girls were more varied since I haven't seen a white girl in the video yet. ??? I haven't sleuthed this angle so I know little except what you guys have shared here.

 

[Wondergirl]

also, i googled the case # and found a ws thread from 2011 that has all of the same information we're talking about now. i read three pages and it was like being in bizarro world because it's exactly the same stuff we've been talking about for the past month. the circle of sleuth i guess.

I would be very interested in reading this, if you can link it, TIA.

 

[elepher50]

I would be very interested in reading this, if you can link it, TIA.

There is information in the public domain regarding the lawsuit that was filed. It is in the Miami-Dade court records.

Here is the link for the Miami-Dade court records:

http://www2.miami-dadeclerk.com/civil/Search.aspx

Enter the State Case #: 13 1999 CA 007292 0000 01

and you will see Docket under the "Docket - Parties" column. Just click the docket and another screen will come up listing the dates. The date you want is the 10/31/2000 - click on the Book/Page next to this date and the court documents will open in Adobe reader. Note there are 12 pages in the document.

As always good common sense and judgement needs to be applied to court documents and they should be viewed with the bigger picture in mind.

 

[Tabs1]

Sorry to return to this but there does seem to be a whopping big discrepancy going on.

Brad has publicly stated that it was Alister Douglas aka 'Yellow' who mentioned being 'sorry about your sister' soon after Amy first went missing. This was apparently before anyone knew bar the family and the ship's captain. Other accounts state that Alister Douglas told Brad he felt 'guilty'?

Yet the verified insider on this thread stated that it was one of the waiters who approached Brad and said 'sorry to hear about your sister'.....?

It seems to me that it's vital to ascertain:

1 - WHO actually displayed knowledge of Amy being missing before it was public knowledge?

2 - how did they know so early? Was it simply that the captain was indiscreet and mentioned it to someone and that word went around the staff that way? Or was it something more sinister which would suggest actual involvement on the part of whichever man seemed to have early knowledge...?

3 - if Alister Douglas did indeed say he felt 'guilty' then WHAT ON EARTH did he feel 'guilty' over? Surely someone must have asked him this???

It just seems to me that these are really basic questions that need to be resolved in order to try and untangle more of this case.





ALSO:

Given that witnesses apparently saw Alister Douglas pretty soon after he entered the disco area with Amy the morning she went missing, would he have had time to actually cause her any harm?

Who else was there, in that disco area, that morning?

And let's assume for a minute that Amy and AD simply left the disco area separately; what would have been Amy's route back to her family room??? Where did she walk past??? Who else was around on that route, around that time?

 

[elepher50]

Beth Holloway Vanished program featuring the disappearance of Amy Bradley:

Part 1: [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEW1oO9LQlQ"]Amy Bradley Part 1 - YouTube[/ame]

Part 2: [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6VnCGfQdpw"]Amy Bradley Vanished Pt.2 - YouTube[/ame]

Part 3: [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NcZnd_GCuA"]Amy Bradley Vanished Pt.3 - YouTube[/ame]

Part 4: [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhHdZAtHG5M"]Amy Bradley Vanished Pt.4 - YouTube[/ame]

Part 5: [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZAaVGq_Ry8"]Amy Bradley Vanished Pt.5 - YouTube[/ame]

Brad's statement about who approached him the next morning about his sister starts at the 2:37 mark on the Part 2 Amy Bradley Vanished at this link:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6VnCGfQdpw"]Amy Bradley Vanished Pt.2 - YouTube[/ame]

Since Brad was on scene and is immediate family, I am going with his statement that it was Alister Douglas who approached him the next morning unless Iva/Ron/Brad refute that it was not Alister but rather one of the other waiters.

eleph

 

[Dushi]

found online on another mb (not sure of accuracy): "

Appellate Court Affirms Trial Court's Dismissal Of Action Based On Plaintiffs' Commission Of A Fraud Upon The Court

Bradley v. Royal Caribbean Cruises, Ltd., 2002 Fla. App. LEXIS 3550 (March 20, 2002)

Plaintiffs filed two different suits against defendant cruise line in connection with the disappearance of their 23-year-old daughter, last seen aboard RHAPSODY OF THE SEAS during a trip between Puerto Rico and Curacao in 1998. One lawsuit alleged negligence by defendant in its handling of the girl's disappearance; the other lawsuit was for wrongful death (even though no evidence ever came to light that the daughter was dead). Both lawsuits were dismissed in October 2000 when the trial judge found the plaintiffs had "perpetrated a fraud on the court" by giving false answers to the defense in depositions. Specifically, the court concluded the Bradleys had intentionally concealed the existence of over 100 witnesses who reported seeing Amy living freely and under no duress at various times after her disappearance. During discovery the Bradleys had identified only three witnesses, all of whom believed they saw someone "looking like Amy" who might have been under possible duress.

The Bradleys appealed the dismissal and Florida's 3rd District Court of Appeal affirmed the lower court's ruling. While Florida's appellate court often takes several months to issue a ruling, the 3rd District issued its order affirming the dismissal less than one week after oral argument. Royal Caribbean was represented by Jeffrey Maltzman and Darren Friedman of KRM's Miami office and Miami appellate attorney Lauri Ross.

http://www.kayerose.com/articles/articles40.html "

But WHY??

I am sorry, but none of this is making sense to me
1oo witnesses whittled down to three?

False answers??
Fraud on the court??

And someone who looks like Amy?

 

[Dushi]

It really seems to me that other than her fathers statement about waking up and seeing her on the balcony, her calves, after that , nobody has a clue

Then there are sightings , some which can not be verified, some which Verfied insider is dismissing

Father say she picked up jeans
no body knows if she has shoes or not
One account is looking for a woman in a Tshirt and navy shorts

Do we know anything for sure other that she is Gone?

 

[Dushi]

found online on another mb (not sure of accuracy): "

Appellate Court Affirms Trial Court's Dismissal Of Action Based On Plaintiffs' Commission Of A Fraud Upon The Court

Bradley v. Royal Caribbean Cruises, Ltd., 2002 Fla. App. LEXIS 3550 (March 20, 2002)

Plaintiffs filed two different suits against defendant cruise line in connection with the disappearance of their 23-year-old daughter, last seen aboard RHAPSODY OF THE SEAS during a trip between Puerto Rico and Curacao in 1998. One lawsuit alleged negligence by defendant in its handling of the girl's disappearance; the other lawsuit was for wrongful death (even though no evidence ever came to light that the daughter was dead). Both lawsuits were dismissed in October 2000 when the trial judge found the plaintiffs had "perpetrated a fraud on the court" by giving false answers to the defense in depositions. Specifically, the court concluded the Bradleys had intentionally concealed the existence of over 100 witnesses who reported seeing Amy living freely and under no duress at various times after her disappearance. During discovery the Bradleys had identified only three witnesses, all of whom believed they saw someone "looking like Amy" who might have been under possible duress.

The Bradleys appealed the dismissal and Florida's 3rd District Court of Appeal affirmed the lower court's ruling. While Florida's appellate court often takes several months to issue a ruling, the 3rd District issued its order affirming the dismissal less than one week after oral argument. Royal Caribbean was represented by Jeffrey Maltzman and Darren Friedman of KRM's Miami office and Miami appellate attorney Lauri Ross.

http://www.kayerose.com/articles/articles40.html "

How do you file a wrongful death lawsuit against the ship and then say there are witnesses that have seen her alive away from the ship?

Maybe there is a justifiable answer to this
If there is, I would like to hear it