VA - Amy Bradley, 23, Petersburg, 24 March 1998 - #3

[neesaki]

OMG ... I just stumbled across this thread for Amy. I was the last post in Thread 2 and thought the entire case was gone forever when it was "Closed". I have forgotten so much detail and see I have lots of catching up to do.

Good to see you here, sillybilly ! :seeya:

 

[Kristin83]

I've really been enjoying following FA on Reddit. Although it's frustrating that new details can't be released (and I understand that Amy's safety are first & foremost), he/she did mention something a few days ago regarding the San Francisco sighting. They stated "the witness in this sighting was the best witness you could possibly imagine". I'm wondering what could make someone the best witness. One of Amy's relatives/an old friend?

 

[marie-chantal]

I've really been enjoying following FA on Reddit. Although it's frustrating that new details can't be released (and I understand that Amy's safety are first & foremost), he/she did mention something a few days ago regarding the San Francisco sighting. They stated "the witness in this sighting was the best witness you could possibly imagine". I'm wondering what could make someone the best witness. One of Amy's relatives/an old friend?

Really? That's interesting. When I hear "best witness" I think cop, nun, priest or someone who knew Amy. It makes me think of someone who's credibility wouldn't be questioned.

 

[Kristin83]

Right. I want to understand more about this sighting so bad. Apparently this witness wants to remain totally anonymous, hence why we don't know names/more about it like we do Barbados, the brothel, etc. I can't say I blame them.

 

[dotr]

Right. I want to understand more about this sighting so bad. Apparently this witness wants to remain totally anonymous, hence why we don't know names/more about it like we do Barbados, the brothel, etc. I can't say I blame them.

LE, Doctor, or Judge might be considered excellent witnesses and have good reason to not want to be named...imo

 

[Fukiyama]

Long time Amy follower. I never realized a third thread had been started. Lots of catching up to do.

 

[Sillybilly]

Article from 2011.
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http://www.timesdispatch.com/news/p...cle_ef56c9be-78ac-5b33-987b-b8de77c26c71.html

"The Bradleys believe that their daughter is still alive based on several reported sightings of their daughter over the years. The last was on March 1, 2005, when a woman reported she saw Amy in a Barbados restaurant restroom. "She was actually able to tell a lady in a restroom her name and where she was from," Iva Bradley said.

"For people that don't have any idea what it's like to be in a Third World country, and under (someone else's) control due to fear, it's not so easy just to go to a phone," Iva Bradley said. "We feel like she's either in human trafficking, or some type of gun trafficking, or the two involved."

<bbm>

Am a long way from catching up, but trying. Meanwhile can someone please explain to me the Barbados bathroom scene bolded ^^ and how that relates to the same witness saying they were in the bathroom stall when the man came in with Amy ... she pulled her feet up to avoid detection, etc. If the man came in with Amy, at what point did the witness have time alone with Amy in order for Amy to tell the woman who she was??

 

[Sillybilly]

... why keep her alive once the case becomes high profile? They allowed multiple sightings and she was even able to speak to witnesses, however briefly. There are, sadly, so many more vulnerable and "invisible" women (including American women) to abduct and use with far less risk. How could Amy have been worth all this risk to the people who took her if this was only about trafficking? Doesn't add up for me.

<rsbm>

IMO, Amy is VERY important to at least one VERY powerful individual in control .. as compared to an organized group of thugs who would dispense with her in a heartbeat if they felt she was no longer of value to them.

 

[Fukiyama]

<bbm>

Am a long way from catching up, but trying. Meanwhile can someone please explain to me the Barbados bathroom scene bolded ^^ and how that relates to the same witness saying they were in the bathroom stall when the man came in with Amy ... she pulled her feet up to avoid detection, etc. If the man came in with Amy, at what point did the witness have time alone with Amy in order for Amy to tell the woman who she was??

If I remember the circumstances right, the guy led Amy into the restroom and then left to wait outside the door. Then the witness came out of her stall and Amy spoke to her before the guy came back in and the witness took off out of the restroom.

 

[Murkywaters]

<bbm>

Am a long way from catching up, but trying. Meanwhile can someone please explain to me the Barbados bathroom scene bolded ^^ and how that relates to the same witness saying they were in the bathroom stall when the man came in with Amy ... she pulled her feet up to avoid detection, etc. If the man came in with Amy, at what point did the witness have time alone with Amy in order for Amy to tell the woman who she was??

The Barbados encounter is explained by Judy here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZAaVGq_Ry8

This is the particular handler that was in the stall threatening Amy that a 'deal' was going through. He used a lot profanity and was really nasty. Judy described him as a bully. When Judy bolted out of the bathroom she passed four other men hovering outside.

 

[neesaki]

<bbm>

Am a long way from catching up, but trying. Meanwhile can someone please explain to me the Barbados bathroom scene bolded ^^ and how that relates to the same witness saying they were in the bathroom stall when the man came in with Amy ... she pulled her feet up to avoid detection, etc. If the man came in with Amy, at what point did the witness have time alone with Amy in order for Amy to tell the woman who she was??

The man left the restroom, and that's when the female witness came out of the stall. That is when she talked to Amy. This is according to my memories from the Vanished episodes. Hope this helps.

ETA: It appears this was answered in some other posts, sorry I didn't see them in time.

 

[Sillybilly]

As has been discussed on another site, the picture of "Jaz" appeared on that site from 2002-2005. Why would they keep it up there for three years if it was not for the purposes of advertising her as an escort? I've read that some claim that this was done for humiliation purposes. Why? And why for three years? What would be the point? Very strange to me.

Could simply be that if anyone enquired/emailed to jaz@*****, that email would simply be ignored or responded to by saying that particular escort is not available. As for humiliation purposes, I believe it relates more to making them submissive, obedient/subservient, demoralize them (drugs, pics, threats against loved ones, etc)

 

[neesaki]

Could simply be that if anyone enquired/emailed to jaz@*****, that email would simply be ignored or responded to by saying that particular escort is not available. As for humiliation purposes, I believe it relates more to making them submissive, subservient, demoralize them (drugs, pics, threats against loved ones, etc)

I agree with you, SillyBilly , one of the techniques those creeps use to break their victims. jmo

 

[neesaki]

Something I don't remember reading before, that Amy had apparently taken her camera with her, it was never recovered. Also, that the ship would have been in the process of docking at the time she disappeared. This information is what leads the family to believe she had gone out to take photos as they arrived in port. Then the last witnessed sighting of her, was reportedly when Yellow handed her a dark colored beverage to drink . Imo, Probably coffee. The next time Yellow was seen he was alone. This is all according to FindAmy, from the Reddit site. I hope it's not against TOS to post this info here, just assuming ok since it's from the VI.

 

[Sillybilly]

Snooping around on the cartels, criminal enterprise in Venezuela, Chavez, the Venezuela/Iran alliance, players on Margarita Island, etc. Came up with some big names in this very informative article:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...-terrorist-threat/+&cd=19&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca

&#9702;Our sources also report that representatives of the Mexican Sinaloa cartel operate in key cocaine transit corridors in Venezuela in close coordination with Venezuelan officials. It is a little known fact that the world&#8217;s most powerful cocaine smuggler and head of the Sinaloa cartel, Joaquín Archivaldo &#8220;El Chapo&#8221; Guzmán conducted his business from Venezuela for much of 2010, living in a suburb of Caracas and on Margarita Island until early 2011 under the protection of Venezuelan security officials working for Chávez.

I then did a google image search on Joaquín Archivaldo &#8220;El Chapo&#8221; Guzmán. This pic comes up but I can't translate:

http://cde.peru.com/ima/0/0/7/4/6/746469/611x458/cartel-sinaloa.jpg

^^ 3rd girl from the right has a tattoo on her left back shoulder.

From that same article on Venezuela and Hezbollah:

Nassereddine Network. Ghazi Atef Nassereddine Abu Ali, a native of Lebanon who became a Venezuelan citizen about 12 years ago, is Venezuela&#8217;s secondranking diplomat in Syria. Nassereddine is a key Hezbollah asset because of his close personal relationship to Chávez&#8217;s Justice and Interior Minister, Tarik El Aissami, and because of his diplomatic assignment in Damascus. Along with at least two of his brothers, Nassereddine manages a network to expand Hezbollah&#8217;s influence in Venezuela and throughout Latin America.

Nasserreddine's two brothers do business on Margarita Island. I did a google image search on Ghazi Atef Nassereddine Abu Ali and this is his pic:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-8dajhB7a_...-ZCFzqAWr0w/s1600/ghazi+atef+nassereddine.png

Anyone else think he resembles the composite of Amy's handler that accompanied her to the restroom?

Not quite sure how Amy could factor into gun smuggling, or hostessing in possible diplomatic relations, safe houses, terrorist training in Venezuela, etc. or any such scenario, but my mind is rummaging on it.

 

[tricket]

He is similar, but the sketch shows a simple in his chin, and his upper lip is longer

 

[marie-chantal]

Could simply be that if anyone enquired/emailed to jaz@*****, that email would simply be ignored or responded to by saying that particular escort is not available. As for humiliation purposes, I believe it relates more to making them submissive, obedient/subservient, demoralize them (drugs, pics, threats against loved ones, etc)

That's an interesting point, but why would they give her access to the internet at all? Is that what you're saying-that they're making her check that email address so that she could see that people thought she was an escort? I honestly don't understand why they'd set up an email for her with the goal of humiliation.

 

[annemc2]

I think that SB is saying that the photos were posted simply to humiliate/degrade/demoralize her. ("Look! Your photo is on the web for your family and friends to see that you are nothing but a prostitute!")

The email just goes to some random throwaway account or to the brothel (where staff replies "sorry - Jaz isn't available - try one of our other girls!") and is not really connected to Jaz or Amy in any way.

 

[Sillybilly]

That's an interesting point, but why would they give her access to the internet at all? Is that what you're saying-that they're making her check that email address so that she could see that people thought she was an escort? I honestly don't understand why they'd set up an email for her with the goal of humiliation.

No, not that Amy would be allowed access to the internet. Basically what annemc2 says ^^ .. also if all other pics have contact info, hers would be conspicuous by an absence of one.

 

[Murkywaters]

I think that SB is saying that the photos were posted simply to humiliate/degrade/demoralize her. ("Look! Your photo is on the web for your family and friends to see that you are nothing but a prostitute!")

The email just goes to some random throwaway account or to the brothel (where staff replies "sorry - Jaz isn't available - try one of our other girls!") and is not really connected to Jaz or Amy in any way.

I wouldn't be surprised if Amy's captors did this just to be cruel and humiliate her. The picture was obviously taken by her captor. Probably on their mobile phone, you can tell it's not a professional planned photo-shoot which the other escorts had, Amy looked terrified in them. Especially the second one. In the third she looks humiliated. [modsnip]

The fence outside the hotel and there iron frame on the bed is the SAME. This is the Hotel Stelaris where Amy asked the sailor for help. The photos most likely could've been taken there.