VA - Amy Bradley, 23, Petersburg, 24 March 1998 - #3

[Wondergirl]

Wesley Neville is the forensic detective that did overlays of Amy's and Jaz's photos. He stated he would bet his career that 'Jas'' is Amy Bradley. He is well known for his forensic work with identifications.

This is Wesley's forensic evaluation. The Bradley's all stand behind his work.

You know, when I am looking and trying to compare 2 pics to see if they are the same person in a case, it often times is the stare, the eyes, that show 2 totally different people if they are not a match.

This is a great comparison analysis, thank-you.

These 2 pictures have the same eyes, among the other features analyzed.

I have always believed it was Amy anyway.

But really, where to go from here?

Theories be damned, I'm tired of spinning in circles on this case.

What needs to be done to have progress in finding Amy?

It feels like we will never know. I hate to say hopeless, but it is a mystery that gets in my head and I just can't figure it out.

WHERE is Amy? [emoji20]

 

[FightTheOstrich]

Trying to catch-up...I can't remember if this has been asked. My apologies if it has been addressed.

If Amy handed foreign coins to the musician then it seems reasonable that her fingerprints would have been on the coins. Were the coins recovered by the FBI?

Witnesses in San Francisco said that she fell during the escape. I wonder if it was an attempt to leave behind her prints and DNA?

 

[Fukiyama]

If Amy handed foreign coins to the musician then it seems reasonable that her fingerprints would have been on the coins. Were the coins recovered by the FBI?

I read that the bad men escorting Amy at the pier handed her the foreign coins to give to the musician. I'd be more interested in knowing if the man who gave her the coins left his prints.

 

[FightTheOstrich]

I read that the bad men escorting Amy at the pier handed her the foreign coins to give to the musician. I'd be more interested in knowing if the man who gave her the coins left his prints.

I think both sets are important. Solid confirmation that it was Amy and perhaps a lead on the guy/organization she was with.

 

[marie-chantal]

I believe that in this particular case that the " best witness" would most most likely be FBI....
This case is most likely on their radar... But the fact that the opponents are so entrenched and well known as adversaries makes everything way more complicAted...
It wAs also alluded to by the verified insider FA that Amy was more than likely subject to Stockholm syndrome....
In any case I believe it is way more complicated than it appears...
I agree that the photos on the website were to both humiliate and discourage Amy and to throw her family off track so that they would spend vast resources searching for her in a *advertiser censored* setting when all along this was a red herring...
I think someone very powerful desired an all American/ sporty girl and was willing to snatch her from the boat...not for sex, drugs or children... But as an English speaking partner in a terror regime... Jmo

That's a good point about the FBI, but if it was the FBI, wouldn't they have chased after them? These people aren't exactly Olympic track stars. I've never heard about anyone chasing after them when they ran away. There's no reason why these people keep getting away. They're simply not that powerful, no matter what anybody says. I've seen an explanation that there are Americans involved and that's why they keep getting away. I don't buy that explanation for their ability to get away with this. Americans are not above investigation and LE apprehension. Based on the sketches of these people, and of what I've seen of AD, these guys look like a bunch of slobs. They're not exactly the smooth criminal type. There's no way they could physically evade the FBI in a chase.

 

[Sillybilly]

I think both sets are important. Solid confirmation that it was Amy and perhaps a lead on the guy/organization she was with.

Perhaps the coin was the witness?

 

[marie-chantal]

I think both sets are important. Solid confirmation that it was Amy and perhaps a lead on the guy/organization she was with.

And that certainly would have been an easy thing to test. I wonder if this was done? It should have been.

 

[88keys]

So you're saying that the all the information provided by the VI is hearsay? If thats the case, what would be the purpose of anyone being a verified insider? Just call me curious and confused. :sigh:

We are not supposed to discuss the VI on here or question her credibility. So I'm not touching that one. Sorry.

 

[Sillybilly]

We are not supposed to discuss the VI on here or question her credibility. So I'm not touching that one. Sorry.

We can discuss the information contained in the VI's posts.

 

[Sillybilly]

Can't recall, so maybe this has been discussed earlier. Prior to her disappearance, Amy was a very conservative looking young lady. IMO, she was selected based on that presentation. The AAV pics are the first ones we know of where she was presented with an appearance so contradictory to how she really looked. Sightings that we are aware of match the AAV pics (although apparently there have been later sightings, details of which we are not privy to, where she had short hair and was well dressed). It's as if her abductors take her out in public looking one way in the event she is spotted, when in fact her day to day appearance is perhaps more in line with "the real Amy".

Don't know where i'm going with this, but could her "all American girl" appearance possibly be helpful to folks getting in and out of the US and other countries without suspicion?

 

[marie-chantal]

Can't recall, so maybe this has been discussed earlier. Prior to her disappearance, Amy was a very conservative looking young lady. IMO, she was selected based on that presentation. The AAV pics are the first ones we know of where she was presented with an appearance so contradictory to how she really looked. Sightings that we are aware of match the AAV pics (although apparently there have been later sightings, details of which we are not privy to, where she had short hair and was well dressed). It's as if her abductors take her out in public looking one way in the event she is spotted, when in fact her day to day appearance is perhaps more in line with "the real Amy".

Don't know where i'm going with this, but could her "all American girl" appearance possibly be helpful to folks getting in and out of the US and other countries without suspicion?

If Amy is the person in those AAV pictures, then she looks like she has spent some time doing a heavy amount of drugs. Her eyes look "empty" (if that makes sense) and she looks strung out. The pictures look like they were taken in the 80s. They don't even look like they're from the 90s or early 2000s, MOO. Although, the facial features of the woman do resemble the facial features of Amy in the pics that her family has made public.

I still have a really hard time believing that she's been brought back onto US soil. There's no verifiable proof of it, and it is simply not that easy to sneak a kidnapping victim who is known to both the FBI and Interpol into the country, MOO. It just seems really far-fetched to me. Without knowing what that "credible info" is that confirms it's her, I just struggle to believe she has been in the States. I don't care how many other Americans she's with-it's simply not that easy to sneak in to the country, even if it's by ship or private plane; especially post 9/11.

Even if she's well-dressed and well-groomed, I still think that it would not matter in terms of getting her into the country. If she's the poor woman in the AAV photos, then even with a nice outfit and more conservative hairstyle, she still has the look of someone who has lived a very rough life. If the SF sighting is true, and if those sketches of the men who supposedly accompanied her are accurate, then even if she is the picture of elegance, those two guys look like slobs. THEY would attract attention. It would be an odd group of people-a fat, sloppy white guy, a guy who looks like he's Latino/Italian and rough, and a conservatively-dressed all-American woman? I'd certainly take notice because she wouldn't fit in with the two guys, who at the same time, don't fit in with each other. I hope that makes sense. Anyway, that's just only my opinion.

 

[Murkywaters]

Trying to catch-up...I can't remember if this has been asked. My apologies if it has been addressed.

If Amy handed foreign coins to the musician then it seems reasonable that her fingerprints would have been on the coins. Were the coins recovered by the FBI?

Witnesses in San Francisco said that she fell during the escape. I wonder if it was an attempt to leave behind her prints and DNA?

The coins would be with the FBI i would assume, There is a lot of information the VI can't release about the SF sighting. He/she has stated if they was surveillance footage they would also have it. However you bring a good point about Amy's fall, perhaps she could've been trying to leave blood or something to mark her trail? However i think it's most likely an accident. When the individuals identified Amy, the woman stared directly over her shoulder at them, they handlers literally were dragging her. Very easy to fall over.

You know, when I am looking and trying to compare 2 pics to see if they are the same person in a case, it often times is the stare, the eyes, that show 2 totally different people if they are not a match.

I have always believed it was Amy anyway.

But really, where to go from here?

Theories be damned, I'm tired of spinning in circles on this case.

What needs to be done to have progress in finding Amy?



[emoji20]

FA has stated what is most important thing now is getting Amy's face back out there to the public. The Vanished program helped a lot with this. There have contacted many times because of it, and one contact had been VERY important. Anyone going to the Caribbean, South America ect can print out Fliers on Amy's website. http://www.amybradley.net/reward.htm

 

[annemc2]

Can't recall, so maybe this has been discussed earlier. Prior to her disappearance, Amy was a very conservative looking young lady. IMO, she was selected based on that presentation. The AAV pics are the first ones we know of where she was presented with an appearance so contradictory to how she really looked. Sightings that we are aware of match the AAV pics (although apparently there have been later sightings, details of which we are not privy to, where she had short hair and was well dressed). It's as if her abductors take her out in public looking one way in the event she is spotted, when in fact her day to day appearance is perhaps more in line with "the real Amy".

Don't know where i'm going with this, but could her "all American girl" appearance possibly be helpful to folks getting in and out of the US and other countries without suspicion?

(BBM) I don't think I've heard this before - [modsnip]
[modsnip]. (thanks for reminding me of this, Murkywaters!) The way the VI was focused on the face (as opposed to Amy in general) jumped out at me. I don't know if her body is a different shape now, tattoos have been removed, or something has been altered to make something other than her face seem different.

 

[Murkywaters]

(BBM) I don't think I've heard this before - was this info reported by the VI? Interesting!

[modsnip] (thanks for reminding me of this, Murkywaters!) [modsnip] (as opposed to Amy in general) jumped out at me. I don't know if her body is a different shape now, tattoos have been removed, or something has been altered to make something other than her face seem different.

Oh, there has Definitely been sighting post-2005. [modsnip] They have not been removed. Amy has been described in the post 2005 sightings as healthy, sometimes very well dressed but under a lot of stress. Tips come in all the time, [modsnip]

 

[dotr]

Maybe Amy is actually living in North America and just been visiting the other countries?

 

[Murkywaters]

Maybe Amy is actually living in North America and just been visiting the other countries?

I highly doubt North America, however South America? I could definitely see this group residing there. In fact a forum poster once emailed Iva and she apparently said they believe Amy is being held in a central South American country. My bet is Venezuela, after all it is the kidnapping capital of the world. Right on the border, There are boats incoming. They come and go freely to the caribbean.

 

[marie-chantal]

Venezuela is a northern country in South America. Central South America would be more like Paraguay or Bolivia. Those places are both land locked.

 

[annemc2]

Oh, there has Definitely been sighting post-2005. [modsnip] They have not been removed. Amy has been described in the post 2005 sightings as healthy, sometimes very well dressed but under a lot of stress. Tips come in all the time,[modsnip] .

I had heard about the post-2005 sightings but not about her healthy appearance, short hair, and nice clothing. This is all so baffling!

 

[Dushi]

Sometimes, if you unable to tell the whole story, its best to say nothing, IMO.
It is always frustrating as a poster to know there is information possibly out there that is inaccessible for reasons that are unclear.
Facts and fiction get mixed up in cases that are unsolved for so long.
I don't feel anyone is trying to discredit anyone else.
Opinions may differ, but the goal is the same... Find Amy
We all have the option of believing or disbelieving what we read

I have many questions about this case that I expect will never be answered
We have amazing free thinkers at WS
Sometimes the questions that are asked help bring answers or at least open up different dialogue
If helps all of us form opinions based on our own thoughts and information, things to work with, rather than accept everyone else's opinion without question

All Just MO

 

[Kristin83]

Exactly, Dushi.

I think everybody on all the forums is just getting frustrated because we just want to see one thing....Amy home safe with her family...and it hasn't happened yet.