VA - Amy Bradley, 23, Petersburg, 24 March 1998 - #3

[neesaki]

This is very curious
If he in fact said he was in his room, how would he pass the polygraph after three witnesses saw him with Amy

I realize polygraphs are not fail proof, but a blatant lie should be readable

I could have it wrong, but IIRC the results were inconclusive. If I have a chance I'll try to verify. If this is the case why not give him another polygraph, but then maybe they did:dunno:.

 

[dotr]

Related news, This is a bit about missing from cruise Sarah Powell..
http://www.cruiselawnews.com/2012/1...se-passenger-disappears-how-is-that-possible/

 

[Teche]

Related news, This is a bit about missing from cruise Sarah Powell..
http://www.cruiselawnews.com/2012/1...se-passenger-disappears-how-is-that-possible/

She's from the Baton Rouge, LA. area. I live about 1 hour away.

 

[Dushi]

I could have it wrong, but IIRC the results were inconclusive. If I have a chance I'll try to verify. If this is the case why not give him another polygraph, but then maybe they did:dunno:.

Did you find anything on this Neesaki?
And if inconclusive, that would still make him a POI?

 

[neesaki]

Did you find anything on this Neesaki?
And if inconclusive, that would still make him a POI?

This is all I have found so far: VA - Amy Bradley, 23, Petersburg, 24 March 1998 - #1 by FindAmy post #170

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Alister Douglas was questioned by the FBI when Amy disappeared from the cruise ship. He is the last person who was seen with Amy. His polygraph was not conclusive.

 

[Dushi]

This is all I have found so far: VA - Amy Bradley, 23, Petersburg, 24 March 1998 - #1 by FindAmy post #170

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

Thank you

Seems to me with those results , further investigation was warranted

His story doesn't match with the girls story

Someone is either lying or mistaken

 

[neesaki]

Thank you

Seems to me with those results , further investigation was warranted

His story doesn't match with the girls story

Someone is either lying or mistaken

I agree. IIRC Yellow also allegedly lied about ever being with Amy that morning, claimed the last time he'd seen her was late the night before and lied about what time he returned to his room. With the inconsistencies, the eye witnesses placing him with her the following morning at about 6:00 a.m., and an inconclusive polygraph, seems like enough to have held him for something.

Realizing that everything is not always as it seems, it still seems to me that the FBI tends to have a habit of ignoring or taking lightly the testimonies of witnesses. I wonder why that is.

 

[neesaki]

According to FindAmy, the photos posted on the adult escort website were definitely believed by the Bradley's and the FBI to be Amy.

I just find it interesting that here in the following link, it claims that the Bradley's did not feel the photos were Amy and that it is a "false trail".

Has something on this already been posted here and this contradiction resolved? Forgive me, but I just don't remember. TIA

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?noframes;read=78783
CORRECTION: POSSIBLE LOCATION OF AMY L. BRADLEY PROVES TO BE A FALSE TRAIL

 

[neesaki]

I have always believed the photos are her, but that's JMO. If not her, maybe she has a double, lol.

Maybe an explanation for why the Bradley's claimed it wasn't her at first, was because they wanted to give that impression to her captors in order to give them a false sense of security. Maybe they were trying to keep that trail open, and hoping she wouldn't disappear deeper underground.

 

[danzn16]

imo the easiest explanation is that, on first glance, they didn't think the pictures were her. part of that may be that they didn't want to think they were her because that would mean their daughter was essentially being forced to do awful things. fast forward a couple years in which there's been no new evidence and suddenly those pictures are at least "proof" that she's still alive, and they're her family's last "contact" with her. i can see the psychological need to feel like she's still out there being a powerful force in changing their minds as to whether the pics are her or not.

This saying the photos were on determinable was after experts looked at them not at "first glance". Even a retired FBI agent didn't know. And these shows were years after the photos were found so this can't be the case

 

[dotr]

Feb. 2012,
http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2012/02/cruise_ship_cocaine.php
"Federal agents announced today that they seized 13 kilograms, or close to 29 pounds, of cocaine from a cruise ship docked in San Francisco last month.

According to a statement from U.S. Customs and Border Protection, a joint operation among federal agencies and local law-enforcement led to two separate discoveries of a large amount of coke on a cruise liner at Pier 35 on Jan. 25. The ship had arrived from Curaçao, according to CBP".

 

[masootz]

Feb. 2012,
http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2012/02/cruise_ship_cocaine.php
"Federal agents announced today that they seized 13 kilograms, or close to 29 pounds, of cocaine from a cruise ship docked in San Francisco last month.

According to a statement from U.S. Customs and Border Protection, a joint operation among federal agencies and local law-enforcement led to two separate discoveries of a large amount of coke on a cruise liner at Pier 35 on Jan. 25. The ship had arrived from Curaçao, according to CBP".

wow, good find dotr. that definitely shows a factual link between illegal crime in curacao and san francisco via cruise ship. makes me wonder if ab could have come to san fran via cruise ship when she was sighted.

 

[neesaki]

imo the easiest explanation is that, on first glance, they didn't think the pictures were her. part of that may be that they didn't want to think they were her because that would mean their daughter was essentially being forced to do awful things. fast forward a couple years in which there's been no new evidence and suddenly those pictures are at least "proof" that she's still alive, and they're her family's last "contact" with her. i can see the psychological need to feel like she's still out there being a powerful force in changing their minds as to whether the pics are her or not.

Also the artist's rendition on the FBI website of Amy, which was done according to witness descriptions from the sightings, looks very much like the photos that were found on the adult escort site, at least imo.

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/kidnap/amy-bradley#disablemobile
http://www.hyscience.com/archives/2005/11/hyscience_dr_ph.php

 

[PeggyAnnMcKay]

Also the artist's rendition on the FBI website of Amy, which was done according to witness descriptions from the sightings, looks very much like the photos that were found on the adult escort site, at least imo.

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/kidnap/amy-bradley#disablemobile
http://www.hyscience.com/archives/2005/11/hyscience_dr_ph.php

Yep - that was the final thing that convinced me that the escort pictures are Amy.

Do you know if the sketches were from more than one witness? I think I remember reading that FA said that it was the description from the woman in the ladies room, but I'm wondering if the guys on the beach described her the same. Because they saw the close-up of her tattoos which further would solidify that it is indeed how she looked at that time.

 

[neesaki]

i asked about this to our verified poster and just got an angry response back. so yeah i dont know. i dont understand all the contradictions. On Vanished and Dr Phil it said it was indeterminable whether it was Amy. The verified insider was the only source I have ever seen that said it was definitely Amy. So I really just don't know.

As far as the website article from 2005, IIRC that was about the time they first discovered the photos of Amy on the adult website. At that time, according to this article, the Bradley's were claiming it was not Amy.
I just keep thinking that early on after the photos were initially discovered, the denial that the photos were Amy may have been done as an attempt to keep Amy's captors in the dark as to what leads had been uncovered in the case and to give the FBI more time to complete their investigation. And probably even more important at that time, was to do everything they could to protect Amy.

IDK, but that could be one possible explanation of the contradictions.

Then later, on the Dr. Phil show there was this:

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First posted by FindAmy: Dr. Phil says, "I want to show you this picture of who may very well be Amy the Bradley seven years after her disappearance. Now I want to emphasize that we discussed whether we should show this picture on the air with former FBI profiler Clint Van Zandt who has worked on many kidnapping cases. Now, Ron and Clint both agree that because this is the first lead that they've had in nearly eight years, he and Iva would like to show this picture in case this young woman is indeed Amy. Now, we have had top forensic artist experts in the country look at these pictures, and they say that it is possible that it could be Amy.

"I'll tell you what. Why don't we go through the features that the experts have picked out? Now first we want to look at the cheekbones here. And what they do is they measure things that don't change in time." Dr. Phil points out similarities in her cheekbones, her hairline, her chin, and even a mark that Iva pointed out, a freckle below her eye.

"Do you believe that could be your daughter?" Dr. Phil asks Iva.

"I believe it could be Amy," she responds.

 

[Dushi]

I guess I agree with the Bradleys.. "it could be"

To me, that doesn't sound like a for sure answer.

Perhaps they have more information now than they had at the time of the interview

I can't find anything

 

[neesaki]

Yep - that was the final thing that convinced me that the escort pictures are Amy.

Do you know if the sketches were from more than one witness? I think I remember reading that FA said that it was the description from the woman in the ladies room, but I'm wondering if the guys on the beach described her the same. Because they saw the close-up of her tattoos which further would solidify that it is indeed how she looked at that time.

On the FBI website it states the sketch is from the Barbados sighting. I guess this might lead one to believe that the description from the sighting in the ladies room was so similar they saw no need to change or provide additional sketches, JMHO.

 

[danzn16]

Feb. 2012,
http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2012/02/cruise_ship_cocaine.php
"Federal agents announced today that they seized 13 kilograms, or close to 29 pounds, of cocaine from a cruise ship docked in San Francisco last month.

According to a statement from U.S. Customs and Border Protection, a joint operation among federal agencies and local law-enforcement led to two separate discoveries of a large amount of coke on a cruise liner at Pier 35 on Jan. 25. The ship had arrived from Curaçao, according to CBP".

:what:

we were told by the verified insider that this was not organized crime but.....

 

[dotr]

Older video, long article concerning white slavery.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8289068/ns/msnbc-the_abrams_report/t/whos-taken-our-daughter/MSNBC's Dan Abrams talks with the parents of Amy Bradley, who has been missing in the Caribbean since 1998"

 

[Dushi]

Older video, long article concerning white slavery.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8289068/ns/msnbc-the_abrams_report/t/whos-taken-our-daughter/MSNBC's Dan Abrams talks with the parents of Amy Bradley, who has been missing in the Caribbean since 1998"

Good article, Thank you dotr

He said he had decided not to report the incident at that time, fearing that he would get into trouble with the Navy for having been in a brothel, and only contacted Amy's family after he had retired and saw her picture, and perhaps information of a reward, in a magazine. The sailor's report has never been substantiated, and the reward of $260,000 remains unclaimed.



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8289068/ns/msnbc-the_abrams_report/t/whos-taken-our-daughter/MSNBC's


Anyone know how much time had passed between the sighting and his retirement?