VA VA - Codi Bigsby, 4, last seen at dad's home, Cory Bigsby (dad) named as POI, Hampton, 31 Jan 2022

[katydid23]

It says that the 72 hours of footage was taken during the week that he was at the station. It didn't happenover the time of 3 days for 72 hours straight.
I've watched a lot of interrogation videos. They leave the camera running even when the person being interviewed is alone in the room. MOO

These cops aren't stupid. They want the person responsible for what is most likely a murder to be convicted and go to prison. The narritive about Cody being mistreated is just for distraction. MOO

Yah, I knew it was over the whole week. But just saying that he spent a long time there, all together, even if it wasn't all spent in an interrogation.

And I am not saying LE mistreated him. I am surprised though, that a long time military officer, did not decide to leave sooner, and obtain legal representation, for himself. I am glad he didn't, because he probably leaked some important info during that time.

 

[Simply Southern]

What is this reference to "past violent complaints" about?

[...]

"I don't believe [Cory] lied, I believe when the question of whether or not he had a conviction came up, he wasn't thinking of military convictions," said Ambrose.

The judge was concerned about past violent complaints and said the AWOL military conviction was also concerning.

[...]

In the meantime, Ambrose says he's expecting over 72 hours of interview footage coming from the Hampton Police Department, all of which were taken during the first week of Codi's disappearance.

[...]

Moo...
Could this be the previous DV case, dropped due to lack of victim testimony?

Were previous police call records to his various residential locations, since 2017, available to the judge?

@Kristin Esq.
Wondering what background information is available/ submitted to judge in a bail hearing?

Moo

 

[Nanceedroo]

Moo...
Could this be the previous DV case, dropped due to lack of victim testimony?

Were previous police call records to his various residential locations, since 2017, available to the judge?

@Kristin Esq.
Wondering what background information is available/ submitted to judge in a bail hearing?

Moo

I’m guessing the info pertaining to him being a flight risk? I’m thinking that’s more important in this case because it doesn’t seem like he’s a danger to the community.

MOO

 

[Simply Southern]

Interesting. Is this Codi's mother or has Cory had another wife?

[...]

Immediately following the bond hearing on Tuesday, Ambrose said he filed an appeal. He is hoping for a second bond hearing.

Bigsby’s estranged wife took the stand, advocating for him to get released on bond. Many of his family members also attended the hearing but did not want to comment on the case.

[...]

ETA: Answered my own question, lol.

Father of missing 4-year-old Codi Bigsby denied bond | 8News (wric.com)
Cory’s estranged wife was in the courtroom Tuesday as a witness. The defense attorney, Jeffrey Ambrose, called her to the stand. She testified that she would help Cory with any court requirements if he was granted bond.

The couple has multiple children and she lives in the Hampton Roads area, Ambrose said. Her children are not the ones in the home when the alleged child neglect incidents took place.

I checked Hampton (and surrounding courts) civil court records, no divorce recorded. I did find a judgement for unpaid rent to Cambridge Apartments for 2018. Divorce is filed in the locality of residence.

Interesting she would offer to help him. Wondering if she and her children are receiving VA benefits? Children under 23 are eligible when attending school.
Virginia Courts Case Information

Moo....

 

[Simply Southern]

Paywalled article.

Father of Codi Bigsby denied bond on child neglect charges - The Virginian-Pilot

• Commonwealth Atty, Bell, said Cory is the number one suspect for a probable homicide and that Codi is probably dead "even as we speak."
• Bell said that letting Cory out of jail would allow him to obstruct LE from finding Codi's body.
• Bell said that Cory was charged twice with assaulting family members - Codi's mother in 2018 and a separate case in Norfolk.
• The estranged wife who testified today is the mother of Cory's four older children who are not related to Codi or the other children involved in the neglect case.
• On the stand, she clarified that she was not Codi's mother or the woman who filed the complaint in 2018.

The Commonwealth Attorneys statement is bold.

Commonwealth Atty, Bell, said Cory is the number one suspect for a probable homicide and that Codi is probably dead "even as we speak."

MOO...I believe LE has proof of homicide for Commonwealth's Attorney to make that statement.

 

[Kristin Esq.]

Moo...
Could this be the previous DV case, dropped due to lack of victim testimony?

Were previous police call records to his various residential locations, since 2017, available to the judge?

@Kristin Esq.
Wondering what background information is available/ submitted to judge in a bail hearing?

Moo

Was this live streamed or did we just find out from Twitter or other posts that bond was denied?

They would definitely talk about flight risk, that is one of the big ones. They will also talk about how egregious his offense is. Probably brought up that he has a child that is missing.

IMO - the attorney wouldn't talk about the violation of rights, that's going to home at the prelimary examination or in a motion.

I'm sorry - I wasn't paying attention to this case yesterday. I was watching the hearing for the Crumbleys (parents of Michigan school shooter) and on that thread all day.

 

[Simply Southern]

I started a Media Thread for Codi since it looks like a second thread is inevitable.

VA - VA - Codi Bigsby, 4, *Dad named POI* Hampton, 31 Jan 2022 - MEDIA, MAPS & TIMELINES *NO DISCUSSION* (websleuths.com)

Thank you!!! You worked hard putting ALL this information together!!!! Excellent !!!

If ya need a link, have a question, most is going to be found here.

VA - VA - Codi Bigsby, 4, *Dad named POI* Hampton, 31 Jan 2022 - MEDIA, MAPS & TIMELINES *NO DISCUSSION*

Thank you, again. Looks like we're in for a long haul. Hoping this is NOT going to be a "no body" case. I so want CB to have a place to rest.

Moo..

 

[stattlich1]

The Commonwealth Attorneys statement is bold.

Commonwealth Atty, Bell, said Cory is the number one suspect for a probable homicide and that Codi is probably dead "even as we speak."

MOO...I believe LE has proof of homicide for Commonwealth's Attorney to make that statement.

Thank you for posting this. I suspected a few days ago this guy spent time with LE so as to attempt to mislead LE, or simply to try and convince LE that his cooperation was evidence of innocence. And to boot, it appears the cries of LE abuse in terms of how they handled the situation are, as stated earlier, another diversionary tactic, unfortunately, not too uncommon in this day and age. MOO

 

[Simply Southern]

Was this live streamed or did we just find out from Twitter or other posts that bond was denied?

They would definitely talk about flight risk, that is one of the big ones. They will also talk about how egregious his offense is. Probably brought up that he has a child that is missing.

IMO - the attorney wouldn't talk about the violation of rights, that's going to home at the prelimary examination or in a motion.

I'm sorry - I wasn't paying attention to this case yesterday. I was watching the hearing for the Crumbleys (parents of Michigan school shooter) and on that thread all day.

He was denied bond, the judge referenced previous complaints. Court records do no show any charges.
Would the judge have records of previous complaints, with LE responding, but no charges were filed?


https://www.wtkr.com/news/father-of-missing-codi-bigsby-denied-bond-at-child-neglect-hearing

After his opening statements, Hampton Commonwealth's Attorney, Anton Bell said Cory Bigsby has previously been convicted of AWOL in the military and Cory confirmed that was true.

Jeff Ambrose, Cory's attorney, said this was not a question he was expecting today.

"I don't believe [Cory] lied, I believe when the question of whether or not he had a conviction came up, he wasn't thinking of military convictions," said Ambrose.

The judge was concerned about past violent complaints and said the AWOL military conviction was also concerning.
Complaints, as in more than the one we are aware of.

Moo....

 

[Kristin Esq.]

He was denied bond, the judge referenced previous complaints. Court records do no show any charges.
Would the judge have records of previous complaints, with LE responding, but no charges were filed?


https://www.wtkr.com/news/father-of-missing-codi-bigsby-denied-bond-at-child-neglect-hearing

After his opening statements, Hampton Commonwealth's Attorney, Anton Bell said Cory Bigsby has previously been convicted of AWOL in the military and Cory confirmed that was true.

Jeff Ambrose, Cory's attorney, said this was not a question he was expecting today.

"I don't believe [Cory] lied, I believe when the question of whether or not he had a conviction came up, he wasn't thinking of military convictions," said Ambrose.

The judge was concerned about past violent complaints and said the AWOL military conviction was also concerning.
Complaints, as in more than the one we are aware of.

Moo....

If there is a police report made since LE responded, there definitely is access to those reports.

 

[Turkeytrot]

The Commonwealth Attorneys statement is bold.

Commonwealth Atty, Bell, said Cory is the number one suspect for a probable homicide and that Codi is probably dead "even as we speak."

MOO...I believe LE has proof of homicide for Commonwealth's Attorney to make that statement.

Me too.

It was a gut punch to even read that part, even though I think little Codi is long gone too.

 

[Simply Southern]

We may not hear many details unless this case is transferred to Circuits Court, as we've seen with other cases in Virginia. MOO

Reading all articles related to court proceeding yesterday, I'm unable to locate any charges, court dates, nada, zero, zip in Hampton and surrounding, in Circuit or District Court.
The articles do not list a court or name of the judge. (Thank you @PommyMommy, for timeline) I am assuming this is J and D based on research.

I located a pamphlets produced by the state explaining J&D procedures. Posting a link to the PDF, but beyond my capability to figure out how to post. Any help appreciated

Juvenile & Domestic Relations Court | Hampton, VA - Official Website

Read an informational pamphlet (PDF), or go to the state website for more information about the Juvenile and Domestic Relations District Court, links to forms, and assistance with protective orders.

Direct quotes from above

Adult Criminal Cases
Adult criminal cases in the JDR court are tried under the same standards and procedures that are applied in misdemeanor (criminal offenses that are not felonies) cases heard in the general district court, where most other adult misdemeanors are tried.

Adult criminal cases heard by the JDR court generally involve offenses committed against children or family or household members.

Adults charged with committing felonies against children or family or household members are brought into the JDR court after arrest for a preliminary hearing. This hearing is held to determine if there is probable cause to believe that the accused adult committed the felony. If probable cause is found, the case is transferred to circuit court; otherwise the case is dismissed.

 

[Simply Southern]

If there is a police report made since LE responded, there definitely is access to those reports.

Thank you

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

The wording is complaints not charges.

"The judge was concerned about past violent complaints and said the AWOL military conviction was also concerning."

 

[JnRyan]

The father being 'convicted' of AWOL, is Article 86 of the UCMJ. It is not the same as desertion (Article 87) which would likely end up in a court martial. Most AWOL cases are taken to non-judicial punishment (NJP). In the Navy that would be Captain's Mast and in the USMC I believe it is called Office Hours. I don't remember the Army or USAF terms for NJP. Neither is considered a court martial. A result under NJP is not a conviction since it is not a criminal proceeding. That said, the CO offers NJP to the offender and the offender has the right to request a court martial.

NJP results can show up in a background check. But either this was poor reporting or the father chose court martial. If he chose court martial over NJP for an AWOL incident there is either something else involved or he made a poor choice. If the judge is stating the AWOL 'conviction' is concerning then there is something else here that is present but not in the article.

 

[MimosaMornings]

Yah, I knew it was over the whole week. But just saying that he spent a long time there, all together, even if it wasn't all spent in an interrogation.

And I am not saying LE mistreated him. I am surprised though, that a long time military officer, did not decide to leave sooner, and obtain legal representation, for himself. I am glad he didn't, because he probably leaked some important info during that time.

He didn’t have to deal with the public either while he was in there. Shielded, giving an appearance of cooperation perhaps.
JMO

 

[Simply Southern]

The wording is complaints not charges.

"The judge was concerned about past violent complaints and said the AWOL military conviction was also concerning."

In Virginia, all 911 call logs are public information and they can go back years. They are by address. provide date, time, brief description, and officer assigned.

I suspect the judge had information on 911 calls to all addresses. These are complaints and most of the time do not result in charges.

Wish one of the reporters had requested before the charges, with open investigation they are not required to release.

I helped a friend with a neighborhood problem. The 911 center pulled all the calls for 3 years to a particular address, free of charge. I requested a list of "certain" call recordings and purchased disks for $5.00 with 10 calls per disk.

Virginia has pretty liberal FOIA laws, penalties for lack of response, short deadlines and its easy to file in court if the agency doesn't respond, with quick court date, like 2 or 3 days.
Commonwealth of Virginia - FOIA Requests

https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacodepopularnames/virginia-freedom-of-information-act/

I've requested so many FIOAs with Covid from the state, the folks in the dept know me by name.(ranted on Covid thread). They are very helpful.

I'm an information junkie, I like to look to the source, make my own interpretation.

All my own personal opinion

 

[Boodles]

The father being 'convicted' of AWOL, is Article 86 of the UCMJ. It is not the same as desertion (Article 87) which would likely end up in a court martial. Most AWOL cases are taken to non-judicial punishment (NJP). In the Navy that would be Captain's Mast and in the USMC I believe it is called Office Hours. I don't remember the Army or USAF terms for NJP. Neither is considered a court martial. A result under NJP is not a conviction since it is not a criminal proceeding. That said, the CO offers NJP to the offender and the offender has the right to request a court martial.

NJP results can show up in a background check. But either this was poor reporting or the father chose court martial. If he chose court martial over NJP for an AWOL incident there is either something else involved or he made a poor choice. If the judge is stating the AWOL 'conviction' is concerning then there is something else here that is present but not in the article.

Would he have had an honorable discharge? Is a vet eligible for pension if he receives a less than honorable (i.e., general/dishonorable) discharge? Does he have a pension? Is his “disability” income from the military or is it SSDI (maybe they’re the same?).

I’m trying to understand his income and how he affords what seems to be many children.

 

[JnRyan]

Would he have had an honorable discharge? Is a vet eligible for pension if he receives a less than honorable (i.e., general/dishonorable) discharge? Does he have a pension? Is his “disability” income from the military or is it SSDI (maybe they’re the same?).

I’m trying to understand his income and how he affords what seems to be many children.

Yes, he could still have had an honorable discharge. I've had senior enlisted working for me that had an NJP for UA early in their careers and they still made chief petty officer. (The Navy and USMC refer to it as UA or Unauthorized Absence. Same thing, Article 86.) In fact, I went through officer training with a former enlisted who had an NJP on his record and I believe it was for UA and he still had an honorable discharge from his enlisted time.

I don't believe I've seen enough to know if he has a retirement or he has a disability retirement. AND if he does have retirement and is divorced (I don't know if he is divorced) his ex might be entitled to a portion of his retirement. Maybe even half of it. If there is a divorce or legal separation is he entitled to child support?

 

[katydid23]

The father being 'convicted' of AWOL, is Article 86 of the UCMJ. It is not the same as desertion (Article 87) which would likely end up in a court martial. Most AWOL cases are taken to non-judicial punishment (NJP). In the Navy that would be Captain's Mast and in the USMC I believe it is called Office Hours. I don't remember the Army or USAF terms for NJP. Neither is considered a court martial. A result under NJP is not a conviction since it is not a criminal proceeding. That said, the CO offers NJP to the offender and the offender has the right to request a court martial.

NJP results can show up in a background check. But either this was poor reporting or the father chose court martial. If he chose court martial over NJP for an AWOL incident there is either something else involved or he made a poor choice. If the judge is stating the AWOL 'conviction' is concerning then there is something else here that is present but not in the article.

In terms of 'complaints' of violence----would female complaints that he was inappropriate or aggressive with them, be in his military records? I am wondering if that is where those 'past violent complaints' were stemming from?