VA - Couple & two teens found murdered, Farmville, 15 Sept 2009 #4

[dangrsmind]

Anyone notice that a few Razakel songs lift the production from popular songs? I know in Hip Hop that's standard for mixtapes, but I'm curious as to how much Sicktannick lifts his beats from elsewhere on the "pressed records" and if he credits them.

He uses sounds and beats from other sources and does not give credit to the originators of those sounds. This is pretty much standard practice in the underground music scene however.

Edited to add: I don't think these artists or their labels would give permission for use. FWIW.

 

[claudicici]

Maybe they could do a thing where popular musicians cover horrorcore songs . . . Like Tom Waits doing "Murder Potion" by Razakel.

lol,...or popular killers...Casey Anthony ,the real queen of the wicked covering razakel.....

 

[ziggy]

Anyone besides me notice that McCroskey comes from the Gaelic "Mac an Chrosain". "Mac an", son of, and "Chrosain" or "Crosan" means "a reciter of satirical verse"

So apparently there is an ancient family history of bad rhyming...

I just spit food...roflmao

 

[ziggy]

Anyone notice that a few Razakel songs lift the production from popular songs? I know in Hip Hop that's standard for mixtapes, but I'm curious as to how much Sicktannick lifts his beats from elsewhere on the "pressed records" and if he credits them.

Specifically, I'm talking about "Pornographic Blasphemy" ft. Sicktanick which steals the melody from Justin Timberlake's "My Love" and "OH (UGLYCROSSEYEDGREENFAKEHAIREDHOEZ)" Which lifts the beat and melody from Ciara's "Oh".

THAT's where I've heard that song before, the Ciara one is the one I recognize right away. Hmmm. Wheels a turnin.

 

[wadahoot]

New-ish article on the search warrants:
http://tinyurl.com/yapppbj

Came across this, right after we were discussing "Dimebag" http://tinyurl.com/yc2bjkj

 

[claudicici]

...wow,i've never heard of tom sanford....i'm loving his art work...

 

[dangrsmind]

THAT's where I've heard that song before, the Ciara one is the one I recognize right away. Hmmm. Wheels a turnin.

If you study hip hop music, you'll find that a lot of it includes unlicensed samples. Also underground house and electronic music. This is a common practice.

 

[dangrsmind]

...wow,i've never heard of tom sanford....i'm loving his art work...

I like the blood splatter on the frame. Attention to detail matters.

 

[dangrsmind]

SickTanick's Killmusick site has been under a spam attack for a few days and seems to be down. Here's the error message I get:

Fatal error: Call to undefined function obtain_portal_config() in C:\www\mentalityrecords.com\km1\portal.php on line 23

 

[Wes]

Can someone fill me in on the '23' references. Thanks.

 

[AndresEscobar]

If you study hip hop music, you'll find that a lot of it includes unlicensed samples. Also underground house and electronic music. This is a common practice.

It might be common practice, but usually writing credits are given to those who write it. And we have evidence that Sicktanick is getting money for his production . . .

 

[dangrsmind]

Can someone fill me in on the '23' references. Thanks.

It's known as the 23 enigma and it's a joke. I think.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/23_Enigma

http://afgen.com/numbr23b.html

 

[AndresEscobar]

Can someone fill me in on the '23' references. Thanks.

There's a (bad) movie staring Jim Carey that can explain it.

 

[dangrsmind]

It might be common practice, but usually writing credits are given to those who write it. And we have evidence that Sicktanick is getting money for his production . . .

Meh. This practice is employed by some of the top names in the music business, it is not going to get any attention here.

Also, don't confuse "writing credits" with sampling...not the same thing.

You can write a song and still own the written lyrics and score, but then RECORD it using illegally used unlicensed samples. The rights to the recorded work are not equivalent to the rights associated with the score and lyrics.

See my friend Benedict's website for more on historical sampling: http://www.benedict.com/Audio/Audio.aspx

Almost every commercial hip hop track includes at least an unlicensed sample or two. It might just be a high hat ripped from the Rolling Stones live album or even a single guitar note. People don't even remember where some of these come from any more.

See also: http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/techpolicy/2004-09-08-sampling-ruling_x.htm

 

[PAXIMUS]

It might be common practice, but usually writing credits are given to those who write it. And we have evidence that Sicktanick is getting money for his production . . .

I will help write the motions...:dance:

 

[PAXIMUS]

Meh. This practice is employed by some of the top names in the music business, it is not going to get any attention here.

Also, don't confuse "writing credits" with sampling...not the same thing.

You can write a song and still own the written lyrics and score, but then RECORD it using illegally used unlicensed samples. The rights to the recorded work are not equivalent to the rights associated with the score and lyrics.

See my friend Benedict's website for more on historical sampling: http://www.benedict.com/Audio/Audio.aspx

Almost every commercial hip hop track includes at least an unlicensed sample or two. It might just be a high hat ripped from the Rolling Stones live album or even a single guitar note. People don't even remember where some of these come from any more.

See also: http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/techpolicy/2004-09-08-sampling-ruling_x.htm

Indeed it does happen a lot, doesnt make it right though.

 

[dangrsmind]

Indeed it does happen a lot, doesnt make it right though.

That's entirely debatable and it has been debated for at least a decade in the music industry by the artists themselves and their represenatives. There are a lot of papers in various legal journals, media publications, and so forth...

But hey what do I know.

 

[PAXIMUS]

That's entirely debatable and it has been debated for at least a decade in the music industry by the artists themselves and their represenatives. There are a lot of papers in various legal journals, media publications, and so forth...

But hey what do I know.

Well thats much more your area than mine, I do know they have taken great offense to you or I downloading a song for free but you say nobody really cares if someone uses others music in their own recordings FOR PROFIT. Doesnt add up for me.

 

[AndresEscobar]

Meh. This practice is employed by some of the top names in the music business, it is not going to get any attention here.

Also, don't confuse "writing credits" with sampling...not the same thing.

You can write a song and still own the written lyrics and score, but then RECORD it using illegally used unlicensed samples. The rights to the recorded work are not equivalent to the rights associated with the score and lyrics.

See my friend Benedict's website for more on historical sampling: http://www.benedict.com/Audio/Audio.aspx

Almost every commercial hip hop track includes at least an unlicensed sample or two. It might just be a high hat ripped from the Rolling Stones live album or even a single guitar note. People don't even remember where some of these come from any more.

See also: http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/techpolicy/2004-09-08-sampling-ruling_x.htm

Sure, but theres a difference between sampling and lifting an entire track, like he did in "Oh".

 

[dangrsmind]

Well thats much more your area than mine, I do know they have taken great offense to you or I downloading a song for free but you say nobody really cares if someone uses others music in their own recordings. Doesnt add up for me.

Pax I was deeply involved in the legal architecture of Live365. During that time I also spent a very enjoyable day in the RIAA's office being threatened by their chief legal counsel. I know more about this area than most people including many lawyers.

And don't be fooled, it is not about protecting the artists. It's all about the money Pax. The music industry is one of the most corrupt disgusting scams in existence.