dangrsmind
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Ha ha! No, that wasn't what I was thinking, but it is good.
FWIW, like some of the other posters here I have an interest in forensic science. My interest started in implementing digital forensic techniques, i.e. an algorithm for recognizing the source of a scanned image. I've considered going into the forensics field and so I've delved into some rather arcane and grotesque books. Many of these are available on the Internet for free BTW.
And now the weather...
See also Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Four People Murdered in VA College Town #3
This is the weather reported for the approximate time of the murders including temperatures and wind information.
I think we discussed previously that the bodies would have decayed more rapidly during the first part of the week when the temperatures were higher. Also, the wind direction might help explain why the decaying bodies weren't smelled until later in the week. Note the wind direction changes on both Thursday and Friday which is when the bodies were discovered. Further analysis would be required to say this with any confidence however.
Ha ha! No, that wasn't what I was thinking, but it is good.
so what is it ?...they were on the "unholy alliance tour" and sick has "unholy apostles"?...don't say because they're both satanists cos children of bodom are not
:::raising hand::: I know, I know!!! Pick me!! ::: waving hand wildly::: ME...ME!!! :::arrghhh, I finally know one:::
Dangrs, "Yes, Wadahoot? Do you know the answer?"
Me: "YES!!!! Those nice young men are just as charming as the SKR boys!!!" :dance:
so what is it ?...they were on the "unholy alliance tour" and sick has "unholy apostles"?...don't say because they're both satanists cos children of bodom are not
THAT is some very interesting stuff there DM and a bit over my head I must admit but I can see why you would be interested in it as it is quite revealing on many levels.
For the last ten years I have been a student of forensic serology and have sat at the feet of some of the best in the business. The nature of blood, blood stains, blood patterns, splatter etc etc, very interesting stuff but the last year or so I have branched off in to forensic entomology and you would be surprised how much bugs can tell you about a crime scene and how long a body had been dead etc, there are certain moths and beetles that only apppear around a dead body in a particular time frame. For many years forensic entomlogist were taken about as seriously as psychics and mind readers but no more, people are now starting to realize the important role bugs play in any particularly crime scene.
FWIW Carrion flies are what you are looking for in relation to maggots as they are the first type of fly on the scene of a dead body and lay their eggs but as mentioned climate plays a major role in this. There are certain mathematical equations and various logarithms involved in all of this that I wont bore you with at this time.
RE: the usefulness of determining order of death
Maybe I've missed it being said, but if not, here's what I think would matter:
They'd use a variety of things, including insect activity, to determine time and order of death, right? This information would be used to construct a narrative of the crime. They need to have a theory of what Sam did exactly to present their version of what happened to the jury. Some of this would go to motive (which is not legally necessary, right?), and to helping the jury make sense of it all in the way they want them to make sense of it all. Motive may not be a necessary part of the formal presentation, but it goes a long way toward getting a jury to accept a narrative.
Well, I'm blabbing at this point and maybe everyone else has assumed this, but I thought it was getting lost in the discussion.
Oh, yeah, and good morning! :wave: -the tapu
p.s. I was just sure I'd be the only one with a Finnish joke, but now I find out... you ALL have one.
It seems like the main issue related to time of death is going to be showing that he killed the women first, then hung around the house for a while before he killed Emma's father. It goes to pre-meditation and disproving the "crime of passion" theory at least for one of the murders.
that is pretty sad:sick:...that was not the kind of love I was proclaiming for them earlier btw...Close...but not really.
Here's some links...
Start here: http://www.myspace.com/deadnoteproductions
Start on the left side, in the section entitled "influences"
Then consider: http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/ind...ndID=6670398&albumID=1675341&imageID=31435660
There is more, but I'll leave it at that.
Right. But... what's Finnish about that?
that is pretty sad:sick:...that was not the kind of love I was proclaiming for them earlier btw...
Have I already told the joke about the Swedish half-sister?
(Actually, maybe I better not--I could get... jelly beaned!)
No, but it involves the Boston PD.
Norwegian jokes, really? Like how my parents on the WVa border of Ohio tell West Virginian jokes?? But of course that practice would be universal...
I know you're being ironic wada but I totally believe this to be true.
We can't forget that they lost 3 friends in this.
I understand their anger because it seems everyone is against them for different reasons.
I think that's what's dangerous.Pain and hurt leads to anger and anger leads to violence.
Not feeling understood,thinking you can't trust anyone aren't those reasons for pain and hurt? ...I think a lot of crimes could be prevented if people would recognize that cycle early on ,in school all they seem to care about is test grades and to get rid of the kids that are "disturbing" the environment.They send them to alternative schools that are like boot camps ,noone shows them how to deal with emotions positively.
Even pain can create so much beauty.