Calliope
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I was not aware of how weird some people can be on these sites when I first started one, which was about 2 years ago. It was MocoSpace. Even though I'm in my 40s I going through a rough time in my life and I decided to do a profile on Moco. Long story short, a man who was supposedly a professor from Canada and had been left a gorgeous manor sent me a friend request. I accepted, thinking this was innocent enough. I started dating a guy (who is now my husband) and he started a profile, too. He asked me one night about the professor and I explained we just basically talked about what Canada was like, simple things. My boyfriend/husband proceeded to log on to Moco and find this guy's profile and he had copied one of my pictures from my profile and the entire background of his home page was hundreds of pictures of me. My boyfriend was highly upset and afraid this guy was stalking me. I was shocked. There was never anything out of the way in our conversations. I deleted him immediately. Now I'm careful on FB and MySpace who's friendship request I accept. So Morgan didn't even have to know the person for them to know her.
That was my point.
part time prof said:Am following along on the social networking thoughts and her reason for leaving the arena.
Iirc, there is a place (within FBl?) where users can post about music they like, shows they are seeing, and so forth, and MH (apparently) posted there, with the seat location of their tickets. Sorry I don't have the actual link, and she didn't use her name, but it seems plausible it was her. So, yes, a cyber-stalker would have known.
But, despite the stories of stalkers lurking around women's places of work, places they are shopping, and so forth, it seems unlikely (but not impossible) for someone to have been "waiting" for MH, assuming she would be coming out to the car she came in at the end of the concert, and then "luckily" finding her wandering alone a couple of hours early, perhaps in an inebriated state. <snipped>
LogicalMinds said:It is heartbreaking to see the pain of these poor parents...I think we all can only hope and pray that more resolution is found here, and that this horrible person is caught....remember that "he' is out there, and other women are at risk too
I just feel that IF there was some person in Morgan's past that this would be out there, common knowledge by now...I have stated my various thought out reasons why there is no such ex boyfriend, jilted lover or whatever
LE doesn't hold back that info...the "ex" would have been questioned, we would have heard about him
I also feel that the idea that someone was following Morgan is not viable...
I go by statistics...permutations, probablities
and Occam's razor...which can mean the "simplest" solution is probably right, but also means that the solution with the least amount of needed variables is probably right
in this case, sorry, the variables are too "iffy"....a stalker would have to find the info online, get down there, negotiate a crowded concertgoer's parking lot, then would have to "hope" that at some point Morgan would do the unlikely combination of 1) leaving arena 2) being in an "altered state"...3) knowing ahead that her phone would not work , battery would fall out 4) supposing that her debit card was low on funds 5) "figuring" out at what time, which exit Morgan would come out...6) and so on and so on
sorry but way too much "by chance"
as I have pointed out before...Morgan lived in an apartment...she went to classes, had places she hung out and friends she hung out with and like most college kids this stuff was probably happily shared on social media sites...
so
why would this stalker pick this concert night? The "odds" are that someone who loved Metallica and was excited about the concert would not be out in the parking lot....how would he "know' this would occur?? Psychic>? sorry I don't think so
Likewise...I think that IF Morgan had some new "forbidden" love interest she wanted to keep secret, she would NOT set up this meeting at the very time she was supposed to be at a concert that cost $$ and that she was looking forward to enjoying
again>>> I feel this was a horrible series of bad events...almost a "Perfect Storm" of bad events...bad decisions....intangible factors like a cell phone that kept losing it's battery added to this...
and most of all a very very wrong person
IF Morgan had met up with a decent person maybe she would have misssed the concert, maybe had to reconsider how/when who to "party" with...maybe been hungover...maybe if it became known , been ashamed or embararessed
but let's not forget...some creep is out there, someone turned this into this nightmare, and he is still out there
the simple answer>>> some creep picked her up and it all went wrong from there
no conspiracy, no preplanned targeting and no "ex" or past relationship
Makes sense to me JMO
Perhaps I wasn't clear in my post:
My own personal opinion is the person *knew* her, but that she didn't necessarily know him. I think he knew she was going to be at the concert, and circumstances were that she came to be outside, separated from her friends and he made his move. I suspect it was someone she initially at least would have felt safe with. Again, just my gut feeling about this.
I never meant to indicate that I thought he was outside 'waiting' for her, 'assuming' or 'knowing' that events would occur where she'd end up stranded outside the arena. My next post describing my friend having her stalker waiting outside her work and where she shopped wasn't to that point, but rather to illustrate how persistent a stalker/obsessed person can be, and specifically that he could have easily found out she was attending the concert and possibly even knew the general area of her seats (as was indicated by prof in the post above). He went there to 'watch' her, to possibly be near her. Then when she came to be separated from her friends, he approached. Is that 'chance'? Sure. So is that some creep (who didn't know her at all) picked her up.
I'd like to know of LE examined the video from the arena not just for Morgan leaving, but anyone who may have followed her out shortly thereafter.
Stalker/obsessed person aside, I do believe that it is someone she initially felt safe with, particularly someone from Roanoke/VT/Blacksburg. That would explain her telling her friend she'd get home. I don't see her standing in Charlottesville, trying to hitchhike a 2-3 hour ride back home. I don't recall there being a record of her calling someone local, so the comment 'not to worry I'll get home' has always puzzled me. It would make sense though, if she'd met up someone from Roanoke or VT/Blacksburg. I think that somehow he put her at ease, and by the time she realized she was in danger it was too late and he'd taken her away from the general safety of the city and to somewhere more secluded (Saturday night in a college town? bound to have been crawling with potential witnesses). I'm not convinced he necessarily killed her where she was found, though.