grammieto5
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I just had another thought, is the CMJA going to get back on the stand and tell her lies for another 18 days for the new jury?
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During the closing remarks, JW kept emphasizing to the jury what "life" meant: that CMJA would be in prison forever and never released. That simply wasn't true and there was a skirmish about it.
I think thats him! :hot:
But Mark has an edge because of his personality and he's hilarious.
Don't tell Mark!rinces:
The judicial process is geared toward protecting the rights of the accused. Too bad that more of her behavior could not be admitted as evidence for the jury to see her true nature.
That said I think AVL may have played a role in this juror's views in believing her claims of abuse. The Court allowed her to restate JA's testimony as fact. The Court also allowed her to read her journal and text messages to the jury. This juror may not have believed JA's statements, but he may have believed AVL.
I wonder if there were texts other than the May 26th that could be considered verbally abusive. I remember I kept listening for JM to say explicitly that the May 26th text was the only time Travis had ever written anything like that to her, but he never said that. He put the text in context that she had done something horrible, and that Travis had finally reached his breaking point, but he didn't make it clear the text was absolutely singular, if it was.
Who knows if that would have made any difference, though. I can't fathom the thinking process that thinks its a mitigating factor that T said some mean things to her, whatever the circumstances were why he did.
I can only stomach HLN coverage when Ryan, Joey, or Beth are reporting; I trust their facts and their presentation isn't part of the insane, circus-like, sensationalistic, blood-lust-stirring, ratings-inflating, speculation-as-facts, shrieking TH mentality.
And yes, Ryan is really fine.
If Jodi killed their family member they would want her put to death.
Just read this on the facebook page..
"Angela Simpson, the Phoenix woman who impaled, stabbed, strangled, beat, and extracted the teeth from a disabled man -- then dismembered him and set pieces of his body on fire -- was sentenced today to life in prison for the 2009 murder."
Life, not death. Lord knows why they even have the DP if they don't want to use it.
ETA: This murderer said she should have gotten the death penalty!!! Only fair she said!
I'm still in disbelief that this case had a hung jury. I suppose it being 8 men and 4 women had to do with it after seeing Jodi naked, on the stand for 18 days, and her before killer pictures. I think it's interesting that the 1st degree murder/felony murder was an 8/4 split as well. Sorry if this has already been brought up. I just got to work and watched the foreman interview.
My heart goes out to Travis's friend's and family.
Just read this on the facebook page..
"Angela Simpson, the Phoenix woman who impaled, stabbed, strangled, beat, and extracted the teeth from a disabled man -- then dismembered him and set pieces of his body on fire -- was sentenced today to life in prison for the 2009 murder."
Life, not death. Lord knows why they even have the DP if they don't want to use it.
ETA: This murderer said she should have gotten the death penalty!!! Only fair she said!
which is why the 8 who held out for death didn't come down to life.
Hello Sleuth,
I never thought about it that way but you could be right in that it may actually be easier for them to give DP because they did not get to see all the baggage that Jodi portrayed. Interesting.
My biggest fear is we wont get that chance. I have a really bad feeling that the DA will just not try the 2nd time and just give it to the judge to decide LWOP or LWP. To save a ton of money and also I think the family maybe has had enough of this madness and they may want it to end too.
If the judge gets it, I cant read her and really dont know which way she would lean.
I just had another thought, is the CMJA going to get back on the stand and tell her lies for another 18 days for the new jury?
Jodi, in her interview said she does not believe in the death penalty but that is exactly what she did with Travis. She had a choice to stop, to seek help and she did not stop. She made the decision that Travis would die because he "insulted" her and called her a sociopath. Obviously the only justifiable response from her for the name calling is death. Not just death but one that was horrific.
From the State of AZ vs Jodi Arias FB page:
A message to you, from juror 17:
Hello all! I was sent to this page thanks to a friend of mine now that I am able to see and hear things! I was juror 17 and later on I was chosen as an alternate. I was so disappointed and upset to hear my number called after all the time and work I put into this trial! Today was a hard day for the jury but it was also a very hard day for me!! To say I am devastated is an understatement! I feel so much pain that I can't even begin to imagine what Travis's family is feeling! Although today's outcome wasn't what I wanted and probably most of you as well, I just ask that you remember we are all human and no matter which juror voted which way, it was a very hard decision for all of them! I want to send my love and prayers to Travis's family and I really hope they get the right outcome next time!!!
And that is exactly what JSS was instructing them on.
Each juror has to decide what it mitigating to THEM.
They do not have to agree on which item is mitigating.
It could be fact (a) is mitigating to me, fact (c) is mitigating to you and that another juror feels there are NO mitigating facts.
That is what makes this stage so difficult - you cannot PROVE to other jurors that fact (c) is mitigating - it is a personal decision, a personal opinion. Each juror may feel differently on what counts as mitigating. This is why it would become obvious relatively quickly that they were deadlocked. No hope of whipping out a piece of evidence to convince others, it is a personal decision you have to come to.
As difficult as it is to see justice delayed for Travis and those that love him, IMO, the jury did exactly as they were told.
I don't disagree. I think that on face value, most don't deal with these kinds of issues or this kind of BD that is JA. Unless you have dealt with someone who is a constant source of problem and countless other things TA dealt with, you really don't know where you will go. He 'said' some not so nice things to her, but we don't know what provoked them. I am assuming the jury did not either and took the 'words' at face value. Which is not what I was hoping they would do.
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