VERDICT WATCH - Sentencing of Jodi Arias - Break 2/27 thru 3/2 #2

[geevee]

Melendez testified he removed the memory stick himself from inside the camera

One of the crime scene investigators said the door was either open or off and the memory card was found in the bottom of the washer, and took a pic of it on the washer:



And yes, Melendez testified that when he got the camera it was put back together with the stick inside it.

 

[geevee]

Maybe later I'll look through YouTubes and see if I can find where the investigator testified about the camera, I do recall that it was found in the bottom of the washer outside the camera.

 

[wenwe4]

god i really can't get away from this trial even when i try. i had a dream last night that they'd reached a verdict and i was about to miss it...i woke up in a panic thinking it was real :floorlaugh:

this has totally fried my brain.

i have a drs app tomorrow at 4.40 which is 9.40 az time...i hope if they reach something tomorrow im home in time. id have totally let myself down if after all these years i missed it all coming to an end. i might see if i can switch to an earlier app just not to even risk it :sigh:

Pardon me being behind . . . . I figure you should be good. Even if they were able to reach a verdict right away, they arrive @ 9:30, get settled, have a final vote, fill out appropriate paperwork for the court, submit it to JSS, call goes out - then the 1 hour wait while everyone gathers. I figure it would be 11:00 or 11:30 @ the earliest.

I figure you will have 1 hr @ the doctor (45 min of waiting and 15 min face to face - if it's like in the US) and 30 minutes to drive home (?) you should be good. Plus, they will announce on the radio and video clips of the verdict will be replayed over and over.

This would be the best case scenario IMO. Who knows - this jury could take all week. I have no problem with jurors addressing any issues they feel might be questionable. Go ahead and pull out the evidence, the testimony, the transcripts, the reports, all of it. Make informed decisions based upon the evidence they have been given.

Bottom line, despite the video footage of the verdict being handed down (and possibly sentencing) this will be the last time in the spotlight for Miss Jodi. She has had her claim to fame but it didn't even rise to the level of Lizzy Borden. At least small children sang a song about Lizzy - Jodi's infamy will be shortlived. Much like others that have passed before her - she will just become another faded memory and her lasting legacy is that she is a cruel and vicious murderer. Her goddess fantasy was just that . . . her fantasy. Her light spark is just about fizzeling out . . . . and just a trail of smoke left behind very soon.

At least she will never roam the streets looking for Mr. Right.
She will never have children (please god let the guards stay away from her)
She will never be found innocent of the crime (shades of Casey).
She will be incarcerated for at least 25 years or until she dies.

 

[Nightswimmer]

do any of you believe that jodi still thinks she is going free?

ive been thinking about it and you know,i just get the feeling that she still thinks shes going to walk out of that court and not go to prision.

i just don't think she gets the gravity of the whole situation,guess im hoping when the verdict is given she has a total meltdown :shrug:

zap zap

If Jodi is as big of an NPD case as I believe her to be, she's much more caught up in all the attention that's been swirling around her for the past five to seven years. It likely hasn't hit her yet that that show is about to be cancelled - though she probably thinks it's going to continue on via appeals, interviews, etc. Unfortunately for her, it won't work that way.

 

[katiecoolady]

If Jodi is as big of an NPD case as I believe her to be, she's much more caught up in all the attention that's been swirling around her for the past five to seven years. It likely hasn't hit her yet that that show is about to be cancelled - though she probably thinks it's going to continue on via appeals, interviews, etc. Unfortunately for her, it won't work that way.

I couldn't agree more and with the DP it will shut down FAST and HARD. Good.

 

[jennapuppy]

Well done, AngelWings. I noticed that the trauma nurse juror said she'd been a domestic violence victim between age 18-24. And the special needs teacher/aide described herself as "a very factual person". My overall impression now is that a unanimous DP verdict is very unlikely. Sounds like some juror/s are trying to lead the group in the right direction by asking for first trial info not presented in this phase iirc. Reading JA's first-trial testimony in search of "remorse" and JM's closing would be helpful.

I would hope that any true DV victim would be offended that JA claims to be a victim of DV.

As for the teacher's aide who describes herself as a factual person - I wonder what she thinks about all of JA's lies?

 

[Bluewater_Girl]

This is a recent podcast from Dr. Tara Palmatier. I don't know if anyone has posted this, but I am watching/listening now, and it's very good so far. I think it's great that she is trying to give people helpful advice to disentangle themselves from Cluster B's. Of course, as BritsKate and others have opined, it isn't to do, especially if you have children in common, etc. Lots of what I've heard so far sounds so much like Jodi, false accusations and all....

http://shrink4men.com/2015/02/19/go...rderlines-and-narcissists-to-get-rid-of-them/

The podcast on youtube is: http://youtu.be/kPWwWQJYX5Y

 

[Nore]

Let's agree to disagree. That was a major release for me when I did that. My heart does NOT hurt from not forgiving my uncle.

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Hi LinasK , I agree. We can let them have their choice and we have ours. No one knows until they have gone through it. You one way , me another. I am so sick of people telling me (not on the board) to get over it, have closure , my children are dead for gods sake. You are doing fine don't let anyone tell you otherwise. :blowkiss: Nore.

 

[MissHaley]

This is a subject near and dear to my heart as well. You can find healing and move forward without 'forgiveness" toward that person however one defines that. yet finding a way to sort of "neutralize" them inside your soul is , I'm finding, a healthy way to move forward. Someone recently wrote me about a prison program that brings murderers together w/ survivors to help them both heal. I'm a person who would absolutely embrace such an option. The problem in my case, as in the Alexanders, is that the murderers are still crying innocence, accepting zero responsibility and blaming everyone else but themselves. So this is really an impossible venture in our cases. With sociopaths, they would simply use a venue such as that for their own personal gain and in Jodi's case, to inflict more damage. But I do believe in such programs and support them.
Finding a place of clearing is possible but it always doesn't involve the other person at all.
It's more like finding some kind of resolution with evil itself which believe me is a monumental task but one some of us are charged with. It's a lifelong endeavor for me but I do feel like I'm closer now than I've ever been.

above BBM- Hi! katiecoolady, I feel I know you as I read your posts here during the last trial, listened to you on Tricia's blogtalk radio & have been reading your daily blog site & look forward to your book. Your writing is beautiful & inspiring. Congrats on your engagement!
As you posted above, that is the problem in that not only is there no remorse but completely blaming Travis & spending their whole defense on how to make Travis 'bad' w/o even trying to mitigate for ja.
I was thinking over the weekend, just how different this whole thing would've been if she would've just called 911 in the first place & just admitted it right then & there. Many people have done just that. But, that goes into what kind of person they really are. In her mind, whatever was going on inside it, she really believed she'd get away with it & that people would believe her. Even now, she believes that trashing Travis was more important. Sorry, I'm not as good as writing my thoughts & feelings as you & others but, I hope you understand what I'm trying to say. God Bless you & WS. Hugs

 

[katydid23]

above BBM- Hi! katiecoolady, I feel I know you as I read your posts here during the last trial, listened to you on Tricia's blogtalk radio & have been reading your daily blog site & look forward to your book. Your writing is beautiful & inspiring. Congrats on your engagement!
As you posted above, that is the problem in that not only is there no remorse but completely blaming Travis & spending their whole defense on how to make Travis 'bad' w/o even trying to mitigate for ja.
I was thinking over the weekend, just how different this whole thing would've been if she would've just called 911 in the first place & just admitted it right then & there. Many people have done just that. But, that goes into what kind of person they really are. In her mind, whatever was going on inside it, she really believed she'd get away with it & that people would believe her. Even now, she believes that trashing Travis was more important. Sorry, I'm not as good as writing my thoughts & feelings as you & others but, I hope you understand what I'm trying to say. God Bless you & WS. Hugs

I totally agree with you that the 'trashing Travis' defense is not effective mitigation. It is disgusting.

And it could have ben so much different for the killer if she had just admitted the whole thing at some point. IMO, even if she did not call 911, and waited until they were on to her, she could have done so much better if she had confessed. somewhat/ Even if she did not admit to all the cray cray, she could have begged for mercy and said she snapped out of jealousy and felt betrayed. I think she would have garnered some sympathy and much less hatred if she had done so.

 

[MissHaley]

do any of you believe that jodi still thinks she is going free?

ive been thinking about it and you know,i just get the feeling that she still thinks shes going to walk out of that court and not go to prision.

i just don't think she gets the gravity of the whole situation,guess im hoping when the verdict is given she has a total meltdown :shrug:

zap zap

Funny you should post this because w/o going on her support site (I never did), just reading posts from other places, her supporters certainly truly believe this! They seriously think that the LIFE & Death verdict, means that if she gets LIFE, she's going FREE & will leave on Monday! Isn't that wild?
I think her supporters have really played into her delusions into believing that. Certainly MDLR has given her false hope. ja has that magical thinking going on still!

 

[Shadowboy]

Timely story, given the discussion about the DP, forgiveness, etc. Lawsuit brought against State of CA to force execution of convicted killer.

"It's not about the revenge," he said. "It's about the law."

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...der-sues-have-familys-killer-executed-n307436

 

[PenElaine]

I've always wondered how she got a full washload done (bed sheets) and into the dryer. Unless Travis had put the bedding into the wash to get rid of the odors and stains from their activities. So many details left for us to forever ponder. Sigh....
Moo

 

[east2west]

Supposedly. Soon after this incident a pinwheel typedrawing showed up for sale on her art website. When she was caught with the art Maria said it was only for mitigation purposes and the DT threw a fit about discrimination against her.Yet that drawing ended up for sale as have others since then. So she is still taking the drawings out for her under the guise of mitigation and selling them online.

Thanks Meebee. I guess I can dig out my Spirograph and make some art for sale. Is Maria only curating for felons?

 

[Mrs G Norris]

This is a subject near and dear to my heart as well. You can find healing and move forward without 'forgiveness" toward that person however one defines that. yet finding a way to sort of "neutralize" them inside your soul is , I'm finding, a healthy way to move forward. Someone recently wrote me about a prison program that brings murderers together w/ survivors to help them both heal. I'm a person who would absolutely embrace such an option. The problem in my case, as in the Alexanders, is that the murderers are still crying innocence, accepting zero responsibility and blaming everyone else but themselves. So this is really an impossible venture in our cases. With sociopaths, they would simply use a venue such as that for their own personal gain and in Jodi's case, to inflict more damage. But I do believe in such programs and support them.
Finding a place of clearing is possible but it always doesn't involve the other person at all.
It's more like finding some kind of resolution with evil itself which believe me is a monumental task but one some of us are charged with. It's a lifelong endeavor for me but I do feel like I'm closer now than I've ever been.

I'm not great with forgiveness, because if someone really crosses me I basically scrub them from my life, and if I'm forced to see them socially I almost lose my power of speech because I can't stand the thought of them even hearing my thoughts. I have no idea how you'd forgive something as vicious as what has happened to you or the Alexanders, but like the thought of a 'place of clearing' that has nothing to do with the other person, glad you feel you're getting closer to that for yourself xoxo

 

[rose222]

I've always wondered how she got a full washload done (bed sheets) and into the dryer. Unless Travis had put the bedding into the wash to get rid of the odors and stains from their activities. So many details left for us to forever ponder. Sigh....
Moo

I've been worried about you since I didn't see you during day one/two of verdict watch. Glad you're here, PenElaine!

 

[elementary]

There is no way to make a valid statement about what is in someone's heart or how to fix it. We have no knowing what someone else feels, has felt or will feel.

Emotions just are: they are not bad or good. This can be said for sadness, happiness, gladness, anger, and hatred, all of them. To suggest that a person should get rid of some but keep others shows lack of understanding about feelings.

It is insulting when a person suggests another should be free of a feeling (such as hatred) in order for them to "move on", be happy, or have a full life.

It creates resentment when another person claims they can and, what's more, know best how to resolve the imagined problem.

The concept of "forgiveness" is rooted in a specific set of religious beliefs that the majority of the world (let alone the majority of the US) does not subscribe to.

In addition, I find that that misguided concept has taken wing and become pernicious with the advent and aid of pop psychology. Rather totalitarian, IMO, and callous.

The Alexanders continue to be a beacon in a morass of evil. Much respect to them. I hope that their suffering is alleviated very soon.

 

[Tiger09]

My guess about the bed sheets? Travis probably thought she left, which is how she was able to attack him like that. She took him completely by surprise. Naps the dog didn't bark because Jodi Arias wasn't a stranger and hadn't actually left. She told Travis she was leaving, Travis probably walked her out, puts the bed sheets and Temple garments to wash, she sneaks back in, locks the dog up , goes back up to the bathroom. Then she grabs everything bloody and the camera and washes it and leaves. She probably thought she destroyed the camera.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

I thought temple garments had to be washed on their own without other items, ie bed sheets, which meant that Jodi put the sheets in there herself.

 

[Tiger09]

You're right! I forgot that.