Victim: Maureen Brainard-Barnes, 25, missing July 2007, found Gilgo Beach Dec 2010 *POI Rex Heuermann*

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This forum has been pretty quiet here for a little while now. I've been working on tracking down some more information about my own POI who has never been mentioned in the media. I've been concentrating on the office (420) at the Film Center and who else that particular office has been associated with over time since I used to work in the building and still have strong connections to people who still work there. Apart from a personal stake in looking at the office as a rich source for possible clues, I think there are enough odd things about MBB's connection to the people there that have been mentioned in the book "Lost Girls" that it's well worth digging a lot further into.
 
This forum has been pretty quiet here for a little while now. I've been working on tracking down some more information about my own POI who has never been mentioned in the media. I've been concentrating on the office (420) at the Film Center and who else that particular office has been associated with over time since I used to work in the building and still have strong connections to people who still work there. Apart from a personal stake in looking at the office as a rich source for possible clues, I think there are enough odd things about MBB's connection to the people there that have been mentioned in the book "Lost Girls" that it's well worth digging a lot further into.

I have also taken a look at some connections to the "Suite 420" including DKU Records/DMF Entertainment. It's likely coincidence, but someone of the same name (associated with these two businesses) was linked to multiple rapes in the state of Maryland.
 
I checked this out after you mentioned it and I'm pretty sure the person from Brooklyn/Bronx is a different person than the one who shares AH's name in MD. It's great to have another set of eyes on people in the Times Square area though!
 
  • 06-05-2013, 06:34 AM #356

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    Originally Posted by deedee21
    Maureen took the Metro North from Connecticut to Manhattan. I wonder why she went to the Port Authority bus station after she left the hotel. Did she want to check the schedule for a bus to Connecticut? Thats a long ride. It makes no sense. Did a client ask her to meet him there. Did he stand her up? It makes sense that she would have headed East on 42nd st. towards Lexington Ave from the bus station to get the Metro North back to Connecticut. Maybe thats when she was intercepted.





    GREAT observation deedee21.

    Possibly to buy drugs.
    Our new poster (can't remember her nickname right now) who have stated she is a sex worker and know the Port Authority bus station area very well, she posted a week or so ago that the Port Authority bus station is indeed a place where prostitutes buy drugs.

    Another possibility is , as you said, she was going to meet a client, the LISK?




Deedee21 and TheForeigner; you may both be right....

An immediate family member of John Bittrolff or John Bittrolff used an immediate family members computer from the address
575 Lexington Ave according to the coordinates 40.7574-73.9716, which were derived from the ip address of this immediate family member.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...20-1993-94-*John-Bittrolff-ARRESTED*-2/page10

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If she was planning on taking Amtrak to CT (which runs to New London on the shoreline) she would have had to take Amtrak from Penn Station.
Again, I highly doubt Amtrak was running to where she was going at that hour either. Metro North runs about every hour until around 1 :00 A.M.

It confuses me as to why she was at Port Authority at ALL, if she was planning on taking a "train" which is what she said to Missy. She never mentioned a bus that I know of.

It's just strange, and could be indicative of her lack of knowledge of the city and its overwhelming transportation system. She may have had false confidence at first and then realized...she couldn't take a train from Port Authority.

She tried for a ride from both Will and Missy and when that failed maybe she asked someone "how to get to Amtrak (Penn Station) or which train to Metro North etc. Maybe she asked someone that worked for the MTA or a transit Cop or something.

A note on walking around Manhattan late at night. The area that she was in is definitely lit up and busier than most so no it wouldn't be scary per se. But the later it gets the weirder it gets as well. As a woman in NYC, I don't care where I am, it is always unsettling to walk around alone really late at night, as is the subway platform (you'd be surprised how unpopulated it can get late night). And that area is just shady in general, with so much transient traffic in general. Port Authority and Penn Station are NOTORIOUS places for Pimps and traffikers to prey on runaways, unsuspecting girls new to the city, or girls already in "the life." It's pretty shocking really.

If you read the book "Girls Like Us" by Rachael Lloyd she gets into it. Rachael is the founder of a nonprofit here in NYC called GEMS (Girls Education and Mentoring Services) and works to help girls in the life to get out of it. Many die so young and are very often victims of severe abuse from pimps and johns alike.

She fights these issues often, like fighting to get backpage and Craigs List taken down. And Raising awareness about Domestic Trafficking in the US (We tend to call it "teen prostitution") when many of these girls are not of the legal age to even consent to sex under law (here its 17) and are being bought and sold by grown men. In any event, her book is hard to put down and will inform anyone who reads it about the world that these girls/women navigate and how truly frightening it is. I think the average age of entry into prostitution is 14 years old in the US and their average life expectancy is somewhere in their late twenties. Here is a link to it, I highly recommend it. Rachael was a victim of it herself and ended up being saved by someone when her pimp tried to kill her. She then overacheived, got her masters, and opened GEMS to help other girls.

Here is the book. http://www.amazon.com/Girls-Like-Us-Fighting-Memoir/dp/0061582069

Craigs List and the internet have made things that much more rampant.

Actually, the average age of entry of minors into prostitution is 14, not for all prostitutes. That is an asterisk that is usually ignored when you see that statistic in the media.

For the average prostitute it is more like early to mid 20s, that is typically the age when young women are living on their own while struggling financially and might consider alternative easier methods of gaining income. It is a combination of lack of resources and having enough life experience not to be intimidated by the idea that gets them into it. So, generally it would be someone who has left the family home to live independently on their own, and spent a few years struggling to get by. By then they are more worldly and the idea of having sex for money is something that they can rationalize (along the lines of "that's what I do anyway for free on weekends, so why not get paid for it"). Teenagers typically don't think like that, they are more black and white in their thought processes.

Also, I think it is highly unlikely the life expectancy of a prostitute is late 20s, considering that there are thousands of them in an average city and relatively few die.
 
Are you able to tell if the computer was used on the dates the girls went missing?
 
What about the Staten Island cop who contacted her? These girls go missing from the midtown south precinct
I wonder what the real back story is? What pct. does he work in? Did he work the 4to12 shift the night he called her? Was he able to PROVE he did not meet with MBB?
 
I wonder what the real back story is? What pct. does he work in? Did he work the 4to12 shift the night he called her? Was he able to PROVE he did not meet with MBB?
I'd be interested to hear that as well.
 
He was cleared as a suspect, so I assume he was able to satisfy LE.
 
Maureen Brainard Barnes lived in Long Beach Ca in Feb 2001.

http://www.usa-people-search.com/Results.aspx?fn=maureen&mn=b&ln=barnes&city=&state=


http://www.aretheyreallysingle.com/searchpreview.aspx?fn=L&mn=D&ln=CHA


https://pipl.com/search/?t=MmFiM2Rh...CA|Long+Beach&avatar=avatar-7&avatar=avatar-1

http://www.advancedbackgroundchecks.com/maureen+brainard-barnes/493599958


Records show that John Bittrolff's dad lived in Long Beach California from Jan 1998 until Jan 2004

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QJ49-BSBC

http://www.myrelatives.com/d/john-bittrolff/453569975

http://www.aretheyreallysingle.com/report/?PersonId=453569975

http://www.publicrecords.com/people-search-records/john-bittrolff-in-new-york


John's dad passed away July 25th 1998.

http://www.ancientfaces.com/person/john-f-bittrolff/10262892

It appears that "someone??" maintained this residence under his name until Jan 2004.

Maureen could have met John Bittrolff here in 2001

These two residences are marked on the Google Earth Map below and are 8.4 miles apart
 

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I don't really trust in public search databases but that is not the point at the moment.

Maybe all of the above should be reconsidered by taking into account "When exactly Maureen started prostitution"
 
I don't really trust in public search databases but that is not the point at the moment.

Maybe all of the above should be reconsidered by taking into account "When exactly Maureen started prostitution"

Maureen wouldn't have to have been a prostitute in order to have met John Bittrolff in 2001.

He wore many hats in his time; including but not limited to, a carpenter, father, construction worker, helpful neighbor and a killer.

Maureen could have met him at a store, the beach, as a prostitute, or perhaps not at all at this time
 
Maureen wouldn't have to have been a prostitute in order to have met John Bittrolff in 2001.

He wore many hats in his time; including but not limited to, a carpenter, father, construction worker, helpful neighbor and a killer.

Maureen could have met him at a store, the beach, as a prostitute, or perhaps not at all at this time

I don't find this likely.

Interesting point of view and looks like an examination that definitely took sweat though.
 
Maureen Brainard Barnes lived in Long Beach Ca in Feb 2001.

http://www.usa-people-search.com/Results.aspx?fn=maureen&mn=b&ln=barnes&city=&state=


http://www.aretheyreallysingle.com/searchpreview.aspx?fn=L&mn=D&ln=CHA


https://pipl.com/search/?t=MmFiM2Rh...CA|Long+Beach&avatar=avatar-7&avatar=avatar-1

http://www.advancedbackgroundchecks.com/maureen+brainard-barnes/493599958


Records show that John Bittrolff's dad lived in Long Beach California from Jan 1998 until Jan 2004

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QJ49-BSBC

http://www.myrelatives.com/d/john-bittrolff/453569975

http://www.aretheyreallysingle.com/report/?PersonId=453569975

http://www.publicrecords.com/people-search-records/john-bittrolff-in-new-york


John's dad passed away July 25th 1998.

http://www.ancientfaces.com/person/john-f-bittrolff/10262892

It appears that "someone??" maintained this residence under his name until Jan 2004.

Maureen could have met John Bittrolff here in 2001

These two residences are marked on the Google Earth Map below and are 8.4 miles apart

we would need her sister to confirm--I don't recall this coming up before(the cali address), but I might have just forgotten.maybe TF can touch on this.....if true, great find and a potentially another piece in the puzzle
 
When did MBB disappear? What date did she physically sign out of the Hotel?
 

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