Victim: Maureen Brainard-Barnes, 25, missing July 2007, found Gilgo Beach Dec 2010 *POI Rex Heuermann*

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Thanks Foreigner, I missed that! I believe the "Platinum Pictures" owner has a model mayhem photography link as well at http://www.modelmayhem.com/Tony("Gxxxxx")

He lists his photo shoot location as Long Beach NY. :eek:

edited to add: that model mayhem profile may or may not be a different person. There's someone in people searches with exactly the same age but with a different middle initial who's lived on LI. It'd be weird if it's a totally different 66 year old man into taking fetish shots with the same exact name, but stranger things have certainly happened, so...
 
Big A didn't post her ads...Vips was the tech guy with the program that refreshed the ads. A was "security". IF Maureen was actually robbed that night, he would have been her go-to guy. I was always of the belief that Maureen told someone she was robbed...now it appears that story came from Sarah via A. So, I'm no longer inclined to buy this theft story hook line and sinker.

JMO

Still, either way, Big A and Vips weren't working on a charity basis. I still see them as working similar to a pimp and likely driver, when necessary.
 
Please, someone remind us how Anthony aka Tony G fits in with Big Al, Vips, Aaron A
 
Still, either way, Big A and Vips weren't working on a charity basis. I still see them as working similar to a pimp and likely driver, when necessary.

You do not need a driver in the city. In fact, it would be more of a headache than a help with parking, traffic, and general mayhem. ESPECIALLY in Times Square which is where Maureen and Sara preferred to work from. They did mostly in calls.

The other girls that used protection or pimps in the city did not use them as drivers. They would call them to let them know all was safe. Then the pimp would wait in a restaurant or cafe nearby until the call was over. They were muscle on hold but they didn't drive them regularly. An outcall would also only require a "driver" if you were leaving the city and going to LI or the Burbs, but even then you could get there by public transportation. Maureen and Sara were working out of the area where ALL of the major transportation hubs are in the city.

Shannan was the ONLY one known to use a driver. She was based in the BX, which is closer to Weschester burbs. She could get anywhere she needed to go without a driver and a car but she just seemed to prefer using one because the BX is not as central to certain parts of the city and could be a haul on the subway. The other girls didn't. There is no documentation of that at all. Getting around is just very different here. A car isn't always the most efficient way in NYC.

Also VIPS got money for posting their ads, and is characterized as hardly as menacing as say Vybe who was an actual ruthless pimp and trafficker. VIPS got mad when Sara and Maureen began posting their own ads to save money and he began flagging their ads and getting them removed from Craig's List. I'm sure he is shady, obviously, but a pimp? No. More like a wannabee. Sara and Maureen worked on their own, independently, and were proud of that. That comes across in the book pretty strongly.

:moo:
 
You do not need a driver in the city. In fact, it would be more of a headache than a help with parking, traffic, and general mayhem. ESPECIALLY in Times Square which is where Maureen and Sara preferred to work from. They did mostly in calls.

The other girls that used protection or pimps in the city did not use them as drivers. They would call them to let them know all was safe. Then the pimp would wait in a restaurant or cafe nearby until the call was over. They were muscle on hold but they didn't drive them regularly. An outcall would also only require a "driver" if you were leaving the city and going to LI or the Burbs, but even then you could get there by public transportation. Maureen and Sara were working out of the area where ALL of the major transportation hubs are in the city.

Shannan was the ONLY one known to use a driver. She was based in the BX, which is closer to Weschester burbs. She could get anywhere she needed to go without a driver and a car but she just seemed to prefer using one because the BX is not as central to certain parts of the city and could be a haul on the subway. The other girls didn't. There is no documentation of that at all. Getting around is just very different here. A car isn't always the most efficient way in NYC.

Also VIPS got money for posting their ads, and is characterized as hardly as menacing as say Vybe who was an actual ruthless pimp and trafficker. VIPS got mad when Sara and Maureen began posting their own ads to save money and he began flagging their ads and getting them removed from Craig's List. I'm sure he is shady, obviously, but a pimp? No. More like a wannabee. Sara and Maureen worked on their own, independently, and were proud of that. That comes across in the book pretty strongly.

:moo:

No offense but you are totally mixing up the girls. Shannan lived in JERSEY and Melissa in the BX. I'd also be willing to bet that Vybe & Robert Blake drove Megan around since blake was arrested near LI motel with drugs in his car
 
Not offended at all. Shannan living in Jersey would explain her always using a driver. And my bad, I meant to say MELISSA was in the BX, and had a 1,000 dollar call in LI the next night and refused a ride from Blaze.

I'm just not believing that Megan was driven that night. She walked to a convenience store just like Amber did. That hotel is isolated with nothing around it really but the interstate and she left 1.5 hours after posting an ad and had been planning on calling it a night before that. Just from living here for 15 years and getting around every day.....I do not see a NYC escort being "driven" on the regular. it makes zero sense and would be highly inconvenient and inefficient and would make zero sense to do in the city when the girls did mostly in calls.
 
Please, someone remind us how Anthony aka Tony G fits in with Big Al, Vips, Aaron A

Here's the Tony, Al, Vips connection:

"Vips agreed to post Sara's ads for the usual fee. Later on, through Maureen, Sara met a few of Vip's associates. There was Tony, a producer of *advertiser censored* movies who worked out of the Film Center Building on Eighth Avenue, and there was Al, a big Italian guy who made noises about being connected but seemed to work mainly as an associate of Tony's - a "modeling agent" for adult films. Vips was the low man on the totem pole - an internet troll, a wannabe pimp and *advertiser censored* producer - but he was the only one Maureen seemed to know well. Tony and Al were guys Maureen had been hoping to get to know better, guys who might help her stop doing this one day. She told her friend Jay DuBrule that *advertiser censored* was legal and safer and easier than what she was doing; it resembled a legitimate entertainment career and was one step closer to the life she dreamed about. "

Page 83 of "Lost Girls"

*At this moment, the name "Aaron A" escapes me ?!? *Sheesh, too much to remember for my little bitty brain
 
Also from "Lost Girls", there is/was "Chrissy", a boy dressed as a girl. I just find this interesting as Maureen's first trips to NYC were with a cross-dressing sex worker.

".... The casinos brought Maureen to a different class of john - out of towners, from all over New England and New York and beyond, with more money and willingness to pay for what they wanted. They treated girls like entertainers, like professionals. This felt more like a business now, and Maureen preferred that. She met a few other girls, including one named Chrissy - a boy dressed as a girl, really. Missy later told friends that it was Chrissy who invited Maureen on her first trip to New York.

Manhattan was the ultimate moneymaker, Chrissy said - filled with tourists and businessmen and bored rich people. If she got a hotel room and posted an ad, she could make a thousand dollars or more every night. Maureen's initial trips there were brief, just a day and a night, with Chrissy at first and then alone."

Page 78 of "Lost Girls"
 
Not offended at all. Shannan living in Jersey would explain her always using a driver. And my bad, I meant to say MELISSA was in the BX, and had a 1,000 dollar call in LI the next night and refused a ride from Blaze.

I'm just not believing that Megan was driven that night. She walked to a convenience store just like Amber did. That hotel is isolated with nothing around it really but the interstate and she left 1.5 hours after posting an ad and had been planning on calling it a night before that. Just from living here for 15 years and getting around every day.....I do not see a NYC escort being "driven" on the regular. it makes zero sense and would be highly inconvenient and inefficient and would make zero sense to do in the city when the girls did mostly in calls.

Where are you getting that Amber walked to convenient store? First off every account I've ever heard was that Amber went outside and got in the clients car while DS watched out the door. Second, there are no convenient stores within walking distance of where amber lived from what I can tell
 
You may not need a driver within the boroughs but once you arrive on LI a person would almost cetainly need a ride to a residential home or a motel or two. A comment DS made, in one of his walking interviews comes back to me...he said something to the effect of, "you'd be surprised what goes on behind closed doors in these middle class neighborhoods or houses..." I can't remember the exact words.
 
All of this info has already been posted in this thread a long time ago. Are we just reviewing what we already know? I'm confused.
 
Has anyone put together an updated timeline for Maureen? If so, can you please post it ?

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All of this info has already been posted in this thread a long time ago. Are we just reviewing what we already know? I'm confused.

(If you're asking me) I wasn't aware of TF's August 2013 post (re: Vips' 2007 Model Mayhem ad) as it's in the Atlantic City SK thread, also I was in the midst of moving last August so I didn't keep up on LISK posts... Heck, I was lucky to keep up with Fred! ;)

If you weren't asking me then, nevermind.
 
For those who don't believe, and/or has denied, that Maureen Brainard-Barnes and her x-boyfriend/husband Jason has been registered in Mays Landing in Atlantic City (ca 17 miles from the Golden Key Motel where he AC4 was found murdered behind that motel):

http://radaris.com/p/Jason/Brainardbarnes/

http://www.veromi.com/Search.aspx?s...-barnes&city=&state=&dobmm=&dobdd=&doby=&Age=

AND additional people listed to the very same Mays Landing address has relatives who share the exact same address and phonenumber as MBB in CT.
 
Kind of off-topic in terms of usefulness, but because my curiosity was absolutely killing me: did a little recon to see what company's name is now on the office door that Vips/Tony/"creepy photo dude(s)"/etc. worked out of until fairly recently, and the door no longer even exists. (!) Which made me laugh uncomfortably until I realized it's probably that an office next door expanded to absorb a couple of smaller units on the floor.
 
Hi everyone! I've been away from sleuthing for the past year taking care of my elderly Mom and gravely ill brother (he passed Dec '13) but have followed along with you all as best I can. My memory is a bit foggy on all the details so I have a few questions. Do I recall that Maureen had an encounter with a man with dreads? And do we know if he was caucasion or AA? Also, need the date Maureen disappeared as I cannot remember. 2007? Thanks much. Something is nagging at the back of my mind in regards to another case but I need to know the answers to these questions before I waste time checking dates and making connections. The person has connections to NY, DC & MD. I'll share more later.

Great reading you all again!

ETA OMG LL6 I didn't read your post and see your link til after I posted. So there was an encounter between MBB and a dreadlocks man! The person I referred to in my post was in jail by OCT 10 tho so it couldn't have been him who stole the panties in the gay bar.
 
hi matilda, the story about Maureen being robbed comes from Lost Girls. in the book Big Al the *advertiser censored* guy claims maureen told him he was robbed by the dreadlocked man maureen and her friend encountered on the street. There's no indication of his race and nothing else is known about him. Maureen's friend who encountered the dreadlocked man with her would be the best bet for unraveling the mystery.
 
Thank you LindsayLohan6! Do you recall the date she disappeared? I need to gather more information before I propose this theory because it seems 'far out' even to me, at this time. I'm going out for a bit & will check back soon. Love your well thought out ideas and contributions!
 

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