Victim: Maureen Brainard-Barnes, 25, missing July 2007, found Gilgo Beach Dec 2010 *POI Rex Heuermann*

[Theforeigner]

Unfortunately, I can not answer some of those questions for you cause it is part of the investigation. I am sorry. Maureen did not have a computer. So for the Norwich Police department to say they went down to NYC and got her lap top is wrong they did not even really investigate her missing.Sad to say but it is so true. In the matter of how she posted I can't say too much about that but she posted before she left CT to go to Ny that weekend. Other than that I can not say much about it. It took them 2 1/2 years to put here in Namus. Maureen only had one cell phone. The first few times I called her it would ring and ring than go to voice mail where we could leave messages. Within a week her voice-mail got filled up by us calling and leaving messages. Than it would ring and than say voice mail is full good bye. Than shortly after that it got turned off and it would not ring.

Meltruth

According to this newsreport, the information that Maureen was contacted by a NYPD officer through Craigslist shortly before her death, apparently was found out through her alleged computer, the computer , which in your opinion Maureen did not have.

Additionally the report state that when Maureen was found dead in Dec 2010, they investigated this NYPD officer and put him on leave, and that he eventually was cleared.

So if Maureen did not have any computer, then all this info about the NYPD officer is not true either? or what is your opinion about this?

http://www.dnainfo.com/20110516/manhattan/nypd-officer-last-contact-murder-victim-sources-say

Published May 16, 2011

MANHATTAN — A Connecticut call girl killed by a Long Island serial killer who found her through Craigslist was contacted by an NYPD officer shortly before her death, DNAinfo has learned.

The revelation comes as the probe into the discovery of eight sets of human remains in Gilgo Beach continues to puzzle investigators.

Maureen Brainard-Barnes, 25, of Norwich, CT., was last seen at a 46th Street hotel.

When Brainard-Barnes disappeared in 2007, Connecticut detectives came to Manhattan and went through her computer.

What they discovered was that the officer, who lived on Staten Island, was one of the last people to contact her through Craigslist.

The details of their conversation were not immediately known.

When the bodies of Brainard-Barnes and the three other hookers surfaced on the South Shore of Long Island last December, cops turned their attention to the NYPD officer.

Sources said that he was placed on modified duty and eyed as a suspect in the grisly and mysterious slayings.

Ultimately, however, he was cleared.




And I found this newspaper notice, about the Norwich Police Department missing persons list, from December 2007, 5 months after Maureen went missing in NY:


http://www.norwichbulletin.com/news/x2073121454#axzz1pZPrzSpT

By DEBORAH STRASZHEIM
Norwich Bulletin
Posted Dec 18, 2007 @ 02:02 AM

Police now have a third resident on their missing persons list
Quote:
Norwich police have also reported two women missing: Erika Cirioni, 27, of 155 Cliff St. in Norwich, has been missing for about one year; and Maureen Brainard-Barnes, 25, of 180 Prospect Street, has been gone since July.

Anyone with information about the cases is asked to call the Norwich Police Department at 886-5561 or the anonymous tip line at 886-5561 ext. 500.


In al respect, isen´t it possible that Maureen had a computer/laptop that you didn´t know of Meltruth?

 

[Redbird]

I think it would be very unlikely that Meltruth would not know whether or not Maureen had a laptop. She is doing us a real courtesy by giving us information. And by LE giving out false information, they are making fools of the public. IMO.

 

[meltruth]

that was not found through her computer. because she did not have one with here. It was found through her email account.

Meltruth

According to this newsreport, the information that Maureen was contacted by a NYPD officer through Craigslist shortly before her death, apparently was found out through her alleged computer, the computer , which in your opinion Maureen did not have.

Additionally the report state that when Maureen was found dead in Dec 2010, they investigated this NYPD officer and put him on leave, and that he eventually was cleared.

So if Maureen did not have any computer, then all this info about the NYPD officer is not true either? or what is your opinion about this?

http://www.dnainfo.com/20110516/manhattan/nypd-officer-last-contact-murder-victim-sources-say

Published May 16, 2011

MANHATTAN — A Connecticut call girl killed by a Long Island serial killer who found her through Craigslist was contacted by an NYPD officer shortly before her death, DNAinfo has learned.

The revelation comes as the probe into the discovery of eight sets of human remains in Gilgo Beach continues to puzzle investigators.

Maureen Brainard-Barnes, 25, of Norwich, CT., was last seen at a 46th Street hotel.

When Brainard-Barnes disappeared in 2007, Connecticut detectives came to Manhattan and went through her computer.

What they discovered was that the officer, who lived on Staten Island, was one of the last people to contact her through Craigslist.

The details of their conversation were not immediately known.

When the bodies of Brainard-Barnes and the three other hookers surfaced on the South Shore of Long Island last December, cops turned their attention to the NYPD officer.

Sources said that he was placed on modified duty and eyed as a suspect in the grisly and mysterious slayings.

Ultimately, however, he was cleared.




And I found this newspaper notice, about the Norwich Police Department missing persons list, from December 2007, 5 months after Maureen went missing in NY:


http://www.norwichbulletin.com/news/x2073121454#axzz1pZPrzSpT

By DEBORAH STRASZHEIM
Norwich Bulletin
Posted Dec 18, 2007 @ 02:02 AM

Police now have a third resident on their missing persons list
Quote:
Norwich police have also reported two women missing: Erika Cirioni, 27, of 155 Cliff St. in Norwich, has been missing for about one year; and Maureen Brainard-Barnes, 25, of 180 Prospect Street, has been gone since July.

Anyone with information about the cases is asked to call the Norwich Police Department at 886-5561 or the anonymous tip line at 886-5561 ext. 500.


In al respect, isen´t it possible that Maureen had a computer/laptop that you didn´t know of Meltruth?

 

[meltruth]

Also Norwich was not the police department that found that out. The NYPD city missing person unit in Ny was the one who did. Don't go by what that little article says it is wrong and misleading.

 

[Seaslug44]

Since back when Maureen went missing it was nearly impossible to upload, activate, update and then deactivate an escort's ad to Craiglist (as well as check & respond to email responses to the ads) without a computer (and it is most doubtful that she transported a desktop computer with her from CT to NY), it is safe to say that she had another person with a computer with internet access doing this for her.

As someone just stated... the truth in this case lies with the cell phones. I am sure Meltruth had access to Maureen's cell phone records and therefore knows a great deal about who she worked with, who contacted her and who she contacted (especially since rule #1 in the business is to never accept calls from blocked phone numbers).

 

[meltruth]

I know my sisters missing person case like the back of my hand. I know what was done and what was found. The Norwich police department was not looking for my sister at the time that other article was written, in fact they had closed her case a cold and the NYPD missing persons unit was on her case. NYPD was upset cause Norwich CT did not do anything in her case.

Meltruth

According to this newsreport, the information that Maureen was contacted by a NYPD officer through Craigslist shortly before her death, apparently was found out through her alleged computer, the computer , which in your opinion Maureen did not have.

Additionally the report state that when Maureen was found dead in Dec 2010, they investigated this NYPD officer and put him on leave, and that he eventually was cleared.

So if Maureen did not have any computer, then all this info about the NYPD officer is not true either? or what is your opinion about this?

http://www.dnainfo.com/20110516/manhattan/nypd-officer-last-contact-murder-victim-sources-say

Published May 16, 2011

MANHATTAN — A Connecticut call girl killed by a Long Island serial killer who found her through Craigslist was contacted by an NYPD officer shortly before her death, DNAinfo has learned.

The revelation comes as the probe into the discovery of eight sets of human remains in Gilgo Beach continues to puzzle investigators.

Maureen Brainard-Barnes, 25, of Norwich, CT., was last seen at a 46th Street hotel.

When Brainard-Barnes disappeared in 2007, Connecticut detectives came to Manhattan and went through her computer.

What they discovered was that the officer, who lived on Staten Island, was one of the last people to contact her through Craigslist.

The details of their conversation were not immediately known.

When the bodies of Brainard-Barnes and the three other hookers surfaced on the South Shore of Long Island last December, cops turned their attention to the NYPD officer.

Sources said that he was placed on modified duty and eyed as a suspect in the grisly and mysterious slayings.

Ultimately, however, he was cleared.




And I found this newspaper notice, about the Norwich Police Department missing persons list, from December 2007, 5 months after Maureen went missing in NY:


http://www.norwichbulletin.com/news/x2073121454#axzz1pZPrzSpT

By DEBORAH STRASZHEIM
Norwich Bulletin
Posted Dec 18, 2007 @ 02:02 AM

Police now have a third resident on their missing persons list
Quote:
Norwich police have also reported two women missing: Erika Cirioni, 27, of 155 Cliff St. in Norwich, has been missing for about one year; and Maureen Brainard-Barnes, 25, of 180 Prospect Street, has been gone since July.

Anyone with information about the cases is asked to call the Norwich Police Department at 886-5561 or the anonymous tip line at 886-5561 ext. 500.


In al respect, isen´t it possible that Maureen had a computer/laptop that you didn´t know of Meltruth?

 

[Dwntwnslim]

Since back when Maureen went missing it was nearly impossible to upload, activate, update and then deactivate an escort's ad to Craiglist (as well as check & respond to email responses to the ads) without a computer (and it is most doubtful that she transported a desktop computer with her from CT to NY), it is safe to say that she had another person with a computer with internet access doing this for her.

As someone just stated... the truth in this case lies with the cell phones. I am sure Meltruth had access to Maureen's cell phone records and therefore knows a great deal about who she worked with, who contacted her and who she contacted (especially since rule #1 in the business is to never accept calls from blocked phone numbers).

Agreed. Maureen Brainard-Barnes could have had another person post the ad for her. She could have also posted the ad herself from a friend's computer.

But, don't forget, meltruth didn't indicate whether or not Maureen Brainard-Barnes' single cellphone was a smartphone. I also wonder if she might of have access to a handheld computer?

Additionally, Ms. Brainard-Barnes could of posted the ad herself at an internet cafe, coffee shop or library.

MOO.

 

[hawkshaw]

A Missing Person Report in NYC is never usually filed for a person that is a resident outside of NYC. If NYPD did that, then I say good for you. However, I doubt that if sucha report was filed with NYPD there was not much they would or could do with it other than to make a record of it should her whereabouts become known, or suspected of being found, either dead or alive.

It is very rare that NYPD would do an extensive investigation of a missing person other than a very young minor. that is just the way it is.

 

[Seaslug44]

Agreed. Maureen Brainard-Barnes could have had another person post the ad for her. She could have also posted the ad herself from a friend's computer.

But, don't forget, meltruth didn't indicate whether or not Maureen Brainard-Barnes' single cellphone was a smartphone. I also wonder if she might of have access to a handheld computer?

Additionally, Ms. Brainard-Barnes could of posted the ad herself at an internet cafe, coffee shop or library.

MOO.

I thought about that after I posted my question and then I realized that it was a stupid question on my part because the first 2G iPhone (the original smart phone that revolutionized the industry) wasn't even announced until June 29th of 2007 (the same year she went missing). Not saying that she could not have painstakenly attempted to access craigslist from an old 1G phone (but it does seem highly unlikely and bandwidths would have made it extremely tough to upload photos). Keep in mind, there were like only three or four phones available with the power and speed to accomplish this task (and I doubt any of them could function in CT because the data network was yet to be introduced). It also sounds highly unlikely that a young woman who didn't even own a laptop computer would dish out $600 to $900 for one of the original smart phones.

 

[Redbird]

If you read carefully you will see that Meltruth said Maureen did not have a computer with her. She did not say she did not have a computer. That needs clarification.

 

[dcgrumpy]

If you read carefully you will see that Meltruth said Maureen did not have a computer with her. She did not say she did not have a computer. That needs clarification.

Actually, she did

Unfortunately, I can not answer some of those questions for you cause it is part of the investigation. I am sorry. Maureen did not have a computer. So for the Norwich Police department to say they went down to NYC and got her lap top is wrong they did not even really investigate her missing.Sad to say but it is so true. In the matter of how she posted I can't say too much about that but she posted before she left CT to go to Ny that weekend.

 

[meltruth]

This would be true if I was not so persistent on them to take Maureen case. After it seem the Norwich Police department was not going to take Maureen missing person seriously I contacted NYC. I believe his name was Sgt. Duke. Because when Duke found out a police officer contacted her that weekend the Internal affairs officers step in and took over her case. Their names where detective Gearson and Detective Shaw.They were very upset about the case and how the Norwich Police treated this case when they came up to take DNA form us in the summer before Maureen was found.So yes, if my sister did not have contact with a police officer they probably would have not took her case. But they did and they never gave up. They would tell me for 3 1/2 years never give up hope there is still hope she is alive is we don't find her. It is because of the nypd taking the case is why they have what they have for evidence on her missing persons. It took awhile to get them interested it in it. but either way I was happy when they came down and told me that they will not give up on trying to figure out where she was.

A Missing Person Report in NYC is never usually filed for a person that is a resident outside of NYC. If NYPD did that, then I say good for you. However, I doubt that if such a report was filed with NYPD there was not much they would or could do with it other than to make a record of it should her whereabouts become known, or suspected of being found, either dead or alive.

It is very rare that NYPD would do an extensive investigation of a missing person other than a very young minor. that is just the way it is.

 

[hawkshaw]

Glade to hear that the NYPD, my former employer did take your complaint seriously. They could have brushed it off because Maureen was not a NYC resident, but they didn't. Good for them. As a former NYPD detective that is good to hear.

 

[LINative13]

There are good apples and bad apples in all walks of life. Glad you got a good apple. Do not forget abou those cops that do not make the paper but wreck their family life becuase they got caught up in a case.....we do not hear about those, just the stupid/lazy moves the police officers make.

Anyway, I digress.

 

[hawkshaw]

There are good apples and bad apples in all walks of life. Glad you got a good apple. Do not forget abou those cops that do not make the paper but wreck their family life becuase they got caught up in a case.....we do not hear about those, just the stupid/lazy moves the police officers make.

Anyway, I digress.

Trust me LINative, those cops are far and few between. Those that get hung up do so because they don't want to go home. That is not to say many don't go home and think about the case. I still do for a case of 2/6/88.

No homewrecking here, but that is if you didn't have to listen to my wife complain why I was getting involved. LOL. because that is my job and when I am not home at end of tour I am on overtime earning money for the family.

Went out on a case on my own and in my own car because the boss didn't have the onions to send us out on OT. By 7am I had the case wrapped up with a bow for the day team to finish it up.

You have no idea how dysfunctional we really are.

When I was single and detecting I would go home when I felt like it. Can't tell you how many vacation days went unused because I liked better what I was doing that what I was going to do later. Never would have gotten away with that after I got married, nor would I try to get away with it.

 

[Dwntwnslim]

I thought about that after I posted my question and then I realized that it was a stupid question on my part because the first 2G iPhone (the original smart phone that revolutionized the industry) wasn't even announced until June 29th of 2007 (the same year she went missing). Not saying that she could not have painstakenly attempted to access craigslist from an old 1G phone (but it does seem highly unlikely and bandwidths would have made it extremely tough to upload photos). Keep in mind, there were like only three or four phones available with the power and speed to accomplish this task (and I doubt any of them could function in CT because the data network was yet to be introduced). It also sounds highly unlikely that a young woman who didn't even own a laptop computer would dish out $600 to $900 for one of the original smart phones.

Smartphones were available in 2007. In fact, smartphones were available as far back as 2005, according to my research.

The questions are:
Could Ms. Brainard-Barnes afford one on her budget? If not, did have she access one? Did she receive a smartphone as a gift or did she borrow one?


HANDHELD
computing
SMARTPHONE ROUNDUP '05
--David MacNeill
http://www.hhcmag.com/features/smartphoneroundup/index.htm


CNET
Reviews
Best smart phones of 2006
Bonnie Cha, Senior Associate Editor
December 19, 2006
http://reviews.cnet.com/4321-6452_7-6555456.html


CNET
Reviews
Best smartphones of 2007
Bonnie Cha, Senior Associate Editor
December 12, 2007
http://reviews.cnet.com/4321-6452_7-6600061.html

 

[KPCrimeNY]

Smartphones were available in 2007. In fact, smartphones were available as far back as 2005, according to my research.

The questions are:
Could Ms. Brainard-Barnes afford one on her budget? If not, did have she access one? Did she receive a smartphone as a gift or did she borrow one?


HANDHELD
computing
SMARTPHONE ROUNDUP '05
--David MacNeill
http://www.hhcmag.com/features/smartphoneroundup/index.htm


CNET
Reviews
Best smart phones of 2006
Bonnie Cha, Senior Associate Editor
December 19, 2006
http://reviews.cnet.com/4321-6452_7-6555456.html


CNET
Reviews
Best smartphones of 2007
Bonnie Cha, Senior Associate Editor
December 12, 2007
http://reviews.cnet.com/4321-6452_7-6600061.html

Everyone is talking smart phones.
Blackberry was around much longer no? Couldn't do it that way?
Thanks to Meltruth and her insight here. I hate to pick at what she said but, it was that MBB did not have computer and could not discuss how she posted. It's part of the case. So I am guessing somebody else posted. Haven't we heard that someone else had friends posting for them?

Does anybody have or seen the postings of the GB4 and SG.
I wonder about a few things. One being did the girls say they were visiting from out of town?

 

[Redbird]

Their ads would say they were new in town but the posters on the trade forums made jokes about it, saying that when they said they were new in town it meant they had changed their name (since the last one had such a bad rep by then).

 

[KPCrimeNY]

Their ads would say they were new in town but the posters on the trade forums made jokes about it, saying that when they said they were new in town it meant they had changed their name (since the last one had such a bad rep by then).

Thanks redbird, i have read that as well.

But, I guess the question is would there have been a way for the SK to know that MB,MW,MBB and possibly SG were not from NY. I guess AC would be iffy except for the fact that she is tied to coming from NC? Besides getting to know them but in the post?

I feel like maybe there was some "spy" work done.
Or maybe a position of authority abused.
Maybe the person was available to knowledge that was priveledged so to say.
Maybe there was an upper hand way before the nights in ? went down.
Somethimes I can't help think that the Craigslist prostitute link is just a link. Maybe when AC left her house not ready for a date or with a phone it was by design? Same with MW leaving the hotel.....The other two disappeared so to say no?

Just thoughts, opinions and CONFUSION in my head!

 

[Dwntwnslim]

Hartford Courant
Sister Of Victim Won't Stop Tracking Case Until
Serial Killer Is Caught
By DENISE BUFFA
The Hartford Courant
9:21 p.m. EDT, March 25, 2012
http://www.courant.com/news/breakin...killer-victim-sister-20120323,0,6856964.story

"Melissa Cann has four kids to tuck into bed at night. But by day, the Norwich resident is busy trying to make certain that her late sister — believed to be the victim of a Long Island serial killer — rests in peace."