Joseph Brewer contacted a sex worker on craigslist on April 30th 2010. A crime. MB was brought to NY by a PIMP. A crime
Victim: Megan Waterman, 22, missing June 2010, found Gilgo Beach Dec 2010 *Rex Heuermann charged*
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Joseph Brewer contacted a sex worker on craigslist on April 30th 2010. A crime. MB was brought to NY by a PIMP. A crime
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I think Brewer found Shannan on Backpage, not Craigslist.
Melissa Barthelemy came to NYC to work as a hairdresser. She started dancing before becoming an escort. I've never read anywhere that she was brought to the city by her pimp. My assumption has always been that she met him AFTER she moved to NYC. Probably through one of her gigs dancing.
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Agreed. I am pretty sure it was MW that was brought to New York by a pimp. But by all accounts it sure is hard keeping them two straight.
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It is not a crime to contact a sex worker. Nor is a crime to pay an escort to spend time with you. It is a crime to pay someone for a sexual act, but, according to JB (the only one who would know) he did neither. Therefore there is no evidence for a crime. Therefore he cannot be charged with anything. According to him, he contacted and contracted an escort, which is completely legal.
As far as MB is concerned, she was brought to NY by a guy. Maybe that guy was a pimp, so what? Maybe he put adds of a dubious nature out, so what? Those adds generally don't explicitly solicit for prostitution, it is implied, and implied as not enough to get a conviction. You have to specifically offer sex for money to be convicted, and no one does that, because THAT is illegal. This is why you have so many adds on places like BackPage and Craigs List, and authorities do nothing. The reason is simple: IT IS NOT ILLEGAL TO DO THAT.
Unless an actual act of prostitution happens, he did nothing illegal. Again, you require actual evidence that such a thing did happen to make a charge, and there is none. Typically evidence like that would come from a sting operation where an explicit offer is made, or if there is a paper trail in the form of money (the latter is very hard to prove though). If they caught her in an act of prostitution, and could tie that back to add, then back to him, THEN he would be in trouble. But they would need to catch her first, and they did not, so no charges.
Police know fully well that all these adds are for prostitution, but without evidence to support that, they can't do anything about it beyond pressuring the sites not to run the adds. They did that with Craigs List, but the adds simply went to other sites, or other areas of Craigs List using different phrases.
Unless the pimp confess to the police in a situation like this or the girl gives evidence against him, nothing will happen. Because there is no evidence to sustain a charge.
You are forgetting that she was a partner in that endeavor.
You are right, I wouldn't like it if I had a daughter who had a pimp. If she chose that life, I wouldn't be happy about it but I would accept her decision. I would expect her to have enough pride and commitment to run her own show though. If you are going to flout the fine edge of the law, at least be good at it.
But, if she did have a pimp, I would hold her equally responsible for her actions. I am not the kind of person who would blame someone else because the truth is too painfull or unpleasant to accept. No daughter of mine would be raised to be a powerless "little girl", she would be raised to be a woman, and to take personal responsibility for the life choices she made, be they good or bad. And that would start from the day she was born. I think the big mistake most parents make is that they still treat their kids as children, when in fact they are young adults from the day they hit puberty. The consequence is that there is a fundamental lack of maturity among many, because they never learn to be adults, ever.
You are right, I wouldn't like it if I had a daughter who had a pimp. If she chose that life, I wouldn't be happy about it but I would accept her decision. I would expect her to have enough pride and commitment to run her own show though. If you are going to flout the fine edge of the law, at least be good at it.
But, if she did have a pimp, I would hold her equally responsible for her actions. I am not the kind of person who would blame someone else because the truth is too painfull or unpleasant to accept. No daughter of mine would be raised to be a powerless "little girl", she would be raised to be a woman, and to take personal responsibility for the life choices she made, be they good or bad. And that would start from the day she was born. I think the big mistake most parents make is that they still treat their kids as children, when in fact they are young adults from the day they hit puberty. The consequence is that there is a fundamental lack of maturity among many, because they never learn to be adults, ever.
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My heart aches for his woes
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/convinted-pimp-turned-bad-dated-older-woman-article-1.1232769
A Brooklyn man convicted of pimping a hooker who was later slain by a Long Island serial killer wants a judge to go easy on him because he once bedded a much older woman.Akeem Cruz claims he turned out bad in part because he was involved in a “full-on-love relationship” with a 37-year-old woman when he was just 17, according to court papers. Cruz, 23, is angling for a sentence of time served so he can walk out of Brooklyn Federal Court a free man Friday.PIMP PLEADS GUILTY TO TRANSPORTING HOOKERS ACROSS STATE LINES -- INCLUDING ONE KILLED BY LI SERIAL KILLERLAPTOP OF PIMP AKEEM CRUZ TARGETED IN PROBE OF SLAIN BODIES DUMPED ON LONG ISLAND BEACHHe pleaded guilty to interstate trafficking of multiple prostitutes, including Megan Waterman, 22, who he pimped out at a Holiday Inn Express in Hauppauge, L.I, before she disappeared.Cruz has been behind bars for 11 months, and faces up to two years in prison under sentencing guidelines.“It is difficult to comprehend how having a relationship with an older woman is justification for transporting young and vulnerable girls from Maine to New York for prostitution,” Assistant U.S. Attorney Winston Paes countered in a sentencing memorandum.Prosecutors say Cruz’s girls also hid cocaine inside their body cavities to transport it from Maine to New York.Cruz also whined that he lacked a father figure as a boy, and was taken under the wing of co-defendant Robert Blake, who he says taught him the ropes of pimping.Waterman’s remains were found near those of three other missing prostitutes on Long Island’s Gilgo Beach in December 2010. Remains of six other victims were later found on the same offshore island. Authorities believe all were killed by a single sicko.Cruz is not considered a suspect in Waterman’s killing.Read more:*http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...d-older-woman-article-1.1232769#ixzz2MGQwMrkL
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/convinted-pimp-turned-bad-dated-older-woman-article-1.1232769
A Brooklyn man convicted of pimping a hooker who was later slain by a Long Island serial killer wants a judge to go easy on him because he once bedded a much older woman.Akeem Cruz claims he turned out bad in part because he was involved in a “full-on-love relationship” with a 37-year-old woman when he was just 17, according to court papers. Cruz, 23, is angling for a sentence of time served so he can walk out of Brooklyn Federal Court a free man Friday.PIMP PLEADS GUILTY TO TRANSPORTING HOOKERS ACROSS STATE LINES -- INCLUDING ONE KILLED BY LI SERIAL KILLERLAPTOP OF PIMP AKEEM CRUZ TARGETED IN PROBE OF SLAIN BODIES DUMPED ON LONG ISLAND BEACHHe pleaded guilty to interstate trafficking of multiple prostitutes, including Megan Waterman, 22, who he pimped out at a Holiday Inn Express in Hauppauge, L.I, before she disappeared.Cruz has been behind bars for 11 months, and faces up to two years in prison under sentencing guidelines.“It is difficult to comprehend how having a relationship with an older woman is justification for transporting young and vulnerable girls from Maine to New York for prostitution,” Assistant U.S. Attorney Winston Paes countered in a sentencing memorandum.Prosecutors say Cruz’s girls also hid cocaine inside their body cavities to transport it from Maine to New York.Cruz also whined that he lacked a father figure as a boy, and was taken under the wing of co-defendant Robert Blake, who he says taught him the ropes of pimping.Waterman’s remains were found near those of three other missing prostitutes on Long Island’s Gilgo Beach in December 2010. Remains of six other victims were later found on the same offshore island. Authorities believe all were killed by a single sicko.Cruz is not considered a suspect in Waterman’s killing.Read more:*http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...d-older-woman-article-1.1232769#ixzz2MGQwMrkL
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Boo ****in hoo! Woe is him! I understand the sentiment here...completely Samantha. But the simple fact of the matter is MW made the wrong decision to love the wrong man.
God bless her nievaty! (sic).
These perverted excuse for men however are NOT the sicker ****s who killed these young women.
It is my very humble opinion that the focus should remain on the sick sadistic murderer/s of these woman, men,and child.
God bless her nievaty! (sic).
These perverted excuse for men however are NOT the sicker ****s who killed these young women.
It is my very humble opinion that the focus should remain on the sick sadistic murderer/s of these woman, men,and child.
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How do we know that for sure
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I've never understood why a provider needs a pimp to begin with. Honestly, if I chose that particular line of work, I sure wouldn't be sharing my income with some man who does nothing to help me earn it. Other than beat the crap out of me to keep me "motivated". These men sure don't seem to provide protection for these women. So what exactly IS their function?
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Most of these young women don't choose to get involved with abusive men. These abusers are really good at hiding their true colors until the young women are trapped in a vicious cycle that their young minds can not even begin to process. until it is too late. look up the term gaslighting. abusers use this strategy a lot.
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Ronnie Reese/MEDILL"He had my mind so done," said prostitution survivor Brenda Myers-Powell about the mental influence of a pimp who once controlled her. "Just fried."
Games pimps play: Mental manipulation in prostitution
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The Dreamcatcher Foundation From Austin to the Gold Coast, prostitution brings blight From Victims to Victimizers: Interviews with 25 Ex-Pimps in Chicago
Women often isolated, tricked into prostitution, DePaul study find
Before co-founding The Dreamcatcher Foundation and becoming a Cook County Court advocate for victims of sexual exploitation, Brenda Myers-Powell spent 25 years as a prostitute.She knows a mind game when she sees one. And she knows exactly how pimps play them. Once, she said, she was explaining a situation to her pimp. “Well, I thought…,” she began. He cut her off right there.“Don’t you ever think again,” he said. “If you want to know something, you call me and let me do the thinking.”At the time, his demand made sense, Myers-Powell said. She really felt she had made a mistake in thinking for herself.“He had my mind so done,” she said. “Just fried.”Myers-Powell describes the typical pimp's method of mental abuse and compulsion as “running game.”“If I’m an impressionable young girl with low self-esteem,” she said, “it’s very easy to coerce me and talk me into your plan.”The plan is systematic brainwashing that takes place over a number of months and years. It is the subject of “From Victim to Victimizers: Interviews with 25 Ex-Pimps in Chicago,” a 2010 report published by Myers-Powell and DePaul researcher Jody Raphael.
“It’s impossible to protect all girls from guys like I was because that’s what we do,” said one pimp. “We eat, drink and sleep thinking of ways to trick young girls into doing what we want them to do.”
“But,” Myers-Powell explained, “it’s me thinking that it’s what I want to do.”The process usually begins when pimps are children themselves, victims of abuse at home. When those abused children become adults, they attempt to regain lost control through the exploitation and trafficking of others.*“It’s a particular way of staying in the arena where you have been abused,” Raphael said, “but just kind of seizing the power.”A senior research fellow at the DePaul University College of Law Schiller DeCanto and Fleck Family Law Center, Raphael said people recruited as prostitutes are often susceptible to this misuse of power because of abuse in their households. They long for affection.“And a pimp is offering a sense of love and a sense of concern,” Raphael said. “I don’t think we can understand how this can be so lacking from any young person’s life, but it has been.”Rachel Durchslag, executive director of the Chicago Alliance Against Sexual Exploitation, refers to recruiting prostitutes as a “grooming process.” Pimps target individuals who are emotionally vulnerable. They become boyfriends, girlfriends and confidants. They convince victims that no one else loves them, a reasonable argument given the earlier cycle of abuse their prey have endured.“In some instances – a lot of instances – there really isn’t anyone else who cares about these individuals,” Durchslag said. “For the first time in their lives, they feel appreciated and beautiful.”Pimps provide material goods along with the perception of emotional comfort and support. They also block other individuals out. They tell their recruits, “No one will love you like I love you,” and “Those people are the reason why you were on the street.
”This isolation becomes easier when victims are brought into new cities or different states where they know no one. Far from familiar surroundings, “I was their only friend and focus,” as one pimp said.Next comes the total transformation of identity, which gives victims a false sense of confidence.“Pimps tell them, ‘Through me, you’ll be able to accomplish all of your dreams,’” Myers-Powell said. “’But you’ve treat you like me.’”Every day, she said, for the next two or three months, this is all a victim hears.“And when it starts to get real strong,” she added, “by then, he’s got you...You’ve bought into his vision. So, now, here you are, ready to do anything he asks you.
”Victims stay with pimps, Durchslag said, for the same reason they stay with domestic batterers. She cites a complex emotional tie known as a “trauma bond.”Physical violence is just one tool, along with acts of kindness, to increase dependence on the provider.
Pimps monopolize their victims’ perceptions, telling them, “I’m the only one who knows you. I’m the only one who can tell you how to survive in the world.”When victims feel that their pimp is the only person they have in the world, escaping prostitution seems nearly impossible. It doesn’t have to be, but breaking the emotional tie is not easy.“It’s a very painful rebirth process of just trying to find yourself again,” Durchslag said, “especially because so many victims of the sex trade disassociate from themselves psychologically to survive the trauma.”
Because they have detached mentally, she said, victims have to come back to their bodies and minds and face their abuse and trauma.“You can imagine how emotionally and psychologically challenging that is for people,” Durchslag added. “It’s a long, long process for people to be able to reclaim their lives again.”Abusive families, who don’t give their children the love and support every child needs, leave a void that a pimp is more than happy to fill.“Just like a pimp told me, ‘Wherever you ain’t, I am,’” Myers-Powell said.Where families are not, that’s where pimps will be, preying
Games pimps play: Mental manipulation in prostitution
BY*RONNIE REESEMARCH 09, 2011SHARE ON FACEBOOKSHARE ON TWITTERSHARE ON GOOGLE_PLUSONE_SHARESHARE ON MAILTOMORE SHARING SERVICES
Related Links
The Dreamcatcher Foundation From Austin to the Gold Coast, prostitution brings blight From Victims to Victimizers: Interviews with 25 Ex-Pimps in Chicago
Women often isolated, tricked into prostitution, DePaul study find
Before co-founding The Dreamcatcher Foundation and becoming a Cook County Court advocate for victims of sexual exploitation, Brenda Myers-Powell spent 25 years as a prostitute.She knows a mind game when she sees one. And she knows exactly how pimps play them. Once, she said, she was explaining a situation to her pimp. “Well, I thought…,” she began. He cut her off right there.“Don’t you ever think again,” he said. “If you want to know something, you call me and let me do the thinking.”At the time, his demand made sense, Myers-Powell said. She really felt she had made a mistake in thinking for herself.“He had my mind so done,” she said. “Just fried.”Myers-Powell describes the typical pimp's method of mental abuse and compulsion as “running game.”“If I’m an impressionable young girl with low self-esteem,” she said, “it’s very easy to coerce me and talk me into your plan.”The plan is systematic brainwashing that takes place over a number of months and years. It is the subject of “From Victim to Victimizers: Interviews with 25 Ex-Pimps in Chicago,” a 2010 report published by Myers-Powell and DePaul researcher Jody Raphael.
“It’s impossible to protect all girls from guys like I was because that’s what we do,” said one pimp. “We eat, drink and sleep thinking of ways to trick young girls into doing what we want them to do.”
“But,” Myers-Powell explained, “it’s me thinking that it’s what I want to do.”The process usually begins when pimps are children themselves, victims of abuse at home. When those abused children become adults, they attempt to regain lost control through the exploitation and trafficking of others.*“It’s a particular way of staying in the arena where you have been abused,” Raphael said, “but just kind of seizing the power.”A senior research fellow at the DePaul University College of Law Schiller DeCanto and Fleck Family Law Center, Raphael said people recruited as prostitutes are often susceptible to this misuse of power because of abuse in their households. They long for affection.“And a pimp is offering a sense of love and a sense of concern,” Raphael said. “I don’t think we can understand how this can be so lacking from any young person’s life, but it has been.”Rachel Durchslag, executive director of the Chicago Alliance Against Sexual Exploitation, refers to recruiting prostitutes as a “grooming process.” Pimps target individuals who are emotionally vulnerable. They become boyfriends, girlfriends and confidants. They convince victims that no one else loves them, a reasonable argument given the earlier cycle of abuse their prey have endured.“In some instances – a lot of instances – there really isn’t anyone else who cares about these individuals,” Durchslag said. “For the first time in their lives, they feel appreciated and beautiful.”Pimps provide material goods along with the perception of emotional comfort and support. They also block other individuals out. They tell their recruits, “No one will love you like I love you,” and “Those people are the reason why you were on the street.
”This isolation becomes easier when victims are brought into new cities or different states where they know no one. Far from familiar surroundings, “I was their only friend and focus,” as one pimp said.Next comes the total transformation of identity, which gives victims a false sense of confidence.“Pimps tell them, ‘Through me, you’ll be able to accomplish all of your dreams,’” Myers-Powell said. “’But you’ve treat you like me.’”Every day, she said, for the next two or three months, this is all a victim hears.“And when it starts to get real strong,” she added, “by then, he’s got you...You’ve bought into his vision. So, now, here you are, ready to do anything he asks you.
”Victims stay with pimps, Durchslag said, for the same reason they stay with domestic batterers. She cites a complex emotional tie known as a “trauma bond.”Physical violence is just one tool, along with acts of kindness, to increase dependence on the provider.
Pimps monopolize their victims’ perceptions, telling them, “I’m the only one who knows you. I’m the only one who can tell you how to survive in the world.”When victims feel that their pimp is the only person they have in the world, escaping prostitution seems nearly impossible. It doesn’t have to be, but breaking the emotional tie is not easy.“It’s a very painful rebirth process of just trying to find yourself again,” Durchslag said, “especially because so many victims of the sex trade disassociate from themselves psychologically to survive the trauma.”
Because they have detached mentally, she said, victims have to come back to their bodies and minds and face their abuse and trauma.“You can imagine how emotionally and psychologically challenging that is for people,” Durchslag added. “It’s a long, long process for people to be able to reclaim their lives again.”Abusive families, who don’t give their children the love and support every child needs, leave a void that a pimp is more than happy to fill.“Just like a pimp told me, ‘Wherever you ain’t, I am,’” Myers-Powell said.Where families are not, that’s where pimps will be, preying
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**bump**
I know there are many on here watching to see what happens to Robert Blake in the case against him for trafficking Megan and several other young women for the purpose of prostitution.
His sentencing has once again been rescheduled until next week
Justice is so hard to come by
His sentencing has once again been rescheduled until next week
Justice is so hard to come by
I have never heard of this name before. I thought someone by the name of Akeem was sentenced for this.I know there are many on here watching to see what happens to Robert Blake in the case against him for trafficking Megan and several other young women for the purpose of prostitution.
His sentencing has once again been rescheduled until next week
Justice is so hard to come by
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I know there are many on here watching to see what happens to Robert Blake in the case against him for trafficking Megan and several other young women for the purpose of prostitution.
His sentencing has once again been rescheduled until next week
Justice is so hard to come by
thanks for the update---
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